The looking forward to the Lions Tour thread
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That moved pleasantly quickly
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I'm glad he was cleared but it was hardly a ridiculous citing. SOB flew in and knocked Naholo unconscious, if that happened to an Irish player I'd want a citing.
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Pretty much how I saw it. I dont think he should be cited but I thought he would be. Glad hes not as it was clearly not intentional. However those were the kind of hits that we were complaining about when when New zealand knocked half the Irish team out last November.LeRouxIsPHat wrote:I'm glad he was cleared but it was hardly a ridiculous citing. SOB flew in and knocked Naholo unconscious, if that happened to an Irish player I'd want a citing.
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There will be A LOT of big and dubious hits flying around Saturday; Peyper's not TJ again is he?
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But it took a 3-hour Hearing. Clearly, some contenious issue.simonokeeffe wrote:That moved pleasantly quickly
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Have to disagree. Nowhere near the sort of hit that was prevalent in Aviva in November. No swinging arm; no closed fist; no body contact on NZ player. Totally accidental contact having latched onto his own team-mate.Logorrhea wrote:Pretty much how I saw it. I dont think he should be cited but I thought he would be. Glad hes not as it was clearly not intentional. However those were the kind of hits that we were complaining about when when New zealand knocked half the Irish team out last November.LeRouxIsPHat wrote:I'm glad he was cleared but it was hardly a ridiculous citing. SOB flew in and knocked Naholo unconscious, if that happened to an Irish player I'd want a citing.
Anyway, common sense prevails.
Either way, delighted Citing was dismissed.
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No body contact...because he hit him in the head and knocked him out. My question would be, where do you think he was trying to bind on to given that the only part of Naholo that was visible was his head really. Like I said, I'm glad he was cleared because I don't think it was intentional, but it was certainly reckless. Can't see how a citing is seen as ridiculous.
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Meant hearing convened very quicklyRuckedtobits wrote:But it took a 3-hour Hearing. Clearly, some contenious issue.simonokeeffe wrote:That moved pleasantly quickly
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No they weren't.Logorrhea wrote:Pretty much how I saw it. I dont think he should be cited but I thought he would be. Glad hes not as it was clearly not intentional. However those were the kind of hits that we were complaining about when when New zealand knocked half the Irish team out last November.LeRouxIsPHat wrote:I'm glad he was cleared but it was hardly a ridiculous citing. SOB flew in and knocked Naholo unconscious, if that happened to an Irish player I'd want a citing.
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Peyper should be in front of the reffing adjudicators after his input on the red card, telling Garces there was no force and urging him to look at the incident again. If that had happened in 1st test Peyper would have given yellow at most. I'm glad we've another french ref this weekend.simonokeeffe wrote:There will be A LOT of big and dubious hits flying around Saturday; Peyper's not TJ again is he?
I read that the ball in play for this test was 26 minutes, 34 mins for first test. This really worked against the lions as they couldn't get any momentum going to suck the life out of their 7 man pack.
Mako V - should be dropped, weak scrum and shocking discipline.
Really surprised as failure to use full bench, game was calling out for CJ's power in last 20.
Last quarter McGrath, Lawes and Sinker made a serious of big tackles driving players back. McGrath, apart from the crossing penalty, had a huge impact. Absolute no brainer to start him next weekend, he's often double figures for tackles made and good for a poach or 2 each game, given the juggernaut we're facing him starting makes so much sense. Challenge is the fear of Sinkler and Mako holding up a scrum in the last 20.
10-12 worked really well, Murray I though poor until the last 20 with a lot of sloppiness.
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Poite abd the TMO were also hinting at YC rather RC.bamboozle wrote:Peyper should be in front of the reffing adjudicators after his input on the red card, telling Garces there was no force and urging him to look at the incident again. If that had happened in 1st test Peyper would have given yellow at most. I'm glad we've another french ref this weekend.simonokeeffe wrote:There will be A LOT of big and dubious hits flying around Saturday; Peyper's not TJ again is he?
I read that the ball in play for this test was 26 minutes, 34 mins for first test. This really worked against the lions as they couldn't get any momentum going to suck the life out of their 7 man pack.
Mako V - should be dropped, weak scrum and shocking discipline.
Really surprised as failure to use full bench, game was calling out for CJ's power in last 20.
Last quarter McGrath, Lawes and Sinker made a serious of big tackles driving players back. McGrath, apart from the crossing penalty, had a huge impact. Absolute no brainer to start him next weekend, he's often double figures for tackles made and good for a poach or 2 each game, given the juggernaut we're facing him starting makes so much sense. Challenge is the fear of Sinkler and Mako holding up a scrum in the last 20.
10-12 worked really well, Murray I though poor until the last 20 with a lot of sloppiness.
The RC undoubtedly ensured that the rest of the game was relatively seemly.
NZ will have picked up on that for next week.
It could get very ugly next Saturday as a result.
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to be shrill NZ would rather they need to send a mini bus to a citing hearing than lose this game so one would expect a big schimozzle if they get any traction in an early scrum and relentlessly (illegitmate) targeting of the halfbacks
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Like what Vunipola was doing to Barrett?simonokeeffe wrote:and relentlessly (illegitmate) targeting of the halfbacks
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Exactly. The problem is that like most facets of the game NZ are just more effective at it.OTT wrote:Like what Vunipola was doing to Barrett?simonokeeffe wrote:and relentlessly (illegitmate) targeting of the halfbacks
His first one - the late hit - was not a million miles away from the NZ late hit a few minutes before hand. Giving up 2 penalties and a yellow card is usually the losing the game against BNZ.
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I expect the All Blacks to exhibit the same outright, focused, targeted and premeditated thuggery that they did in the Aviva.
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Yes but but more widespread than one player having cerebral diarhhea. Plus Lions halfbacks are IrishOTT wrote:Like what Vunipola was doing to Barrett?simonokeeffe wrote:and relentlessly (illegitmate) targeting of the halfbacks
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Ha! In a bravura display of not giving a f%~k? the All Blacks have called up the Ser Ilyn Payne of rugby, Makakai Fekitoa, to their squadDave Cahill wrote:I expect the All Blacks to exhibit the same outright, focused, targeted and premeditated thuggery that they did in the Aviva.
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Who was the ref that day? Who was the TJ who tried to play down Sonny Bill's assault and convince Garces to give a yellow instead of a red?
I was going to be diplomatic and just say that I don't get how he's still given these games, but lets be honest, Peyper's integrity has to be in question. These aren't technical issues we're talking about, they should be very obvious to him.
I was going to be diplomatic and just say that I don't get how he's still given these games, but lets be honest, Peyper's integrity has to be in question. These aren't technical issues we're talking about, they should be very obvious to him.