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Explain the Darcy one?Oldschool wrote:Far prefer if Jamie pulled a Gordon D'Arcy and pulled a sickie.simonokeeffe wrote:Heaslip is behind Vunipola IMO and loses out to Faletau on Welshness
Ireland supplies too much cannon fodder for these tour and usually pays the price as a result.
IIRC - D'arcy was on one (probably his last) of the Lions tours and picked up an injury from which he had almost recovered.simonokeeffe wrote:Explain the Darcy one?Oldschool wrote:Far prefer if Jamie pulled a Gordon D'Arcy and pulled a sickie.simonokeeffe wrote:Heaslip is behind Vunipola IMO and loses out to Faletau on Welshness
Ireland supplies too much cannon fodder for these tour and usually pays the price as a result.
Heaslip has 5 Lions tests from 2 tours, dont think a 3rd tour will change anyone's opinion of him
You spelt Gordan's name right.Oldschool wrote: IIRC - D'arcy was on one (probably his last) of the Lions tours and picked up an injury from which he had almost recovered.
He was then picked for a mid week game, insisted he wasn't fully fit and declined to tog out.
My own, admittedly biased, view of the Lions tours is that, in general, Irish players were regarded as cannon fodder.
I've seen nothing on recent tours to change my opinion.
Some liars told lies about him, some intellectual subnormals believed them.simonokeeffe wrote: Explain the Darcy one?
as an aside, the injury was caused by Sam Tootypoopoo and he got a six week ban for itNevertheless, the fear the Lions squad announcement might just come too early for him was compounded by a widely-held perception that he had dirtied his bib irretrievably with the Lions four years ago.
Upon announcing his Lions team and replacements for the third Test, dead rubber against the All Blacks in Auckland, Clive Woodward said D’Arcy had ruled himself out of consideration for the match on the grounds he was too exhausted. There had even been suggestions D’Arcy ought not to be picked for the Lions again after that.
Asked about this, D’Arcy admitted: “I was deeply disappointed that any rugby player, whatever about commentators or pundits, and particularly former British and Irish Lions, might suggest I would have chosen not to play in a Test match for the Lions because I was exhausted or suffering from exhaustion. That’s just nonsensical.
“I have to admit I was upset by it. Unfortunately the spin that was put on what occurred has ensured that certain people believed that,” said D’Arcy, who was adamant he had never, ever declined to play in a rugby match unless genuinely injured or unavailable.
Clearly irritated that a certain perception had gathered legs, D’Arcy added: “I know the truth of what happened but I want to put the matter to rest and there’s no better way of doing that than having the opportunity to play for the Lions again.”
D’Arcy was troubled by a shoulder injury towards the end of that Lions’ tour to New Zealand and, following an operation after his return to Ireland, he did not reappear on a rugby pitch until October 10th
Theyre just trolling their Boer readersoffshorerules wrote:On planet rugby there is an article suggesting Itoje for captain. I can't really see it being anyone other than Warbutton at the moment.
Hartley?simonokeeffe wrote:Theyre just trolling their Boer readersoffshorerules wrote:On planet rugby there is an article suggesting Itoje for captain. I can't really see it being anyone other than Warbutton at the moment.
Its Warburton for test side.
Midweek skipper J Gray/AWJ/POM my guesses
for test or midweek? Hartley will start tests but Warburton is in carbonite as skipperoffshorerules wrote:Hartley?simonokeeffe wrote:Theyre just trolling their Boer readersoffshorerules wrote:On planet rugby there is an article suggesting Itoje for captain. I can't really see it being anyone other than Warbutton at the moment.
Its Warburton for test side.
Midweek skipper J Gray/AWJ/POM my guesses
You're a joke.Dave Cahill wrote:You spelt Gordan's name right.Oldschool wrote: IIRC - D'arcy was on one (probably his last) of the Lions tours and picked up an injury from which he had almost recovered.
He was then picked for a mid week game, insisted he wasn't fully fit and declined to tog out.
My own, admittedly biased, view of the Lions tours is that, in general, Irish players were regarded as cannon fodder.
I've seen nothing on recent tours to change my opinion.
Everything else in your post is a complete lie.
You are actually a disgrace for perpetuating it - it really badly damaged Darces reputation that particular piece of vile doggrel and every now and then some halfwit brings it up again. I've reported your post.
The only one embarrassing themselves here, is you.Dave Cahill wrote:There are no two ways to interpret what you wrote. You perpetuated a pernicious lie about one of Leinster's greatest players, a lie that hurt him both personally and professionally. You never even mentioned "D'arcy's version of events" in your re-lying. And of course you are embarrassed by your actions but lack the grace to admit it. I may well be a joke, but at least I'm not someone who tells wilful and deliberate lies about Leinster players. I leave that to you.
I love him but he'd need an absent SOB this 6n to stand a chanceDirk Stickler wrote:I’m tired of the Lions, unless they’re in South Africa.
Nevertheless, if he stays fit (it is a very long season after all) Josh van der Flier could travel and have a big impact.
He is su-bloody-perb.
Yes, I should clarify that the above is roughly the squad I expect Gatland to select, rather than what I would want. I just can't see him being able to resist the power of Vunipola, Nathan Hughes and Faletau as the three 8s.offshorerules wrote:I would have thought given his indestructability Jamie will go.
Have to give that group some considerable thought. Certainly believe that Irish forwards in particular have two particular chances to impress selectors (not just Gatland) In the coming November.neiliog93 wrote:In Gatty's post-tour report from 2013, he recommended that they take a greater number of players from the outset of the tour, as so many players were injured during the tour and had to be replaced.
I'm not expecting the number taken to be as high as the 44(?) Woodward took in 2005, but I'd say it'll be close enough to 40. Say 38:
1: J.McGrath, Marler, M.Vunipola
2: Hartley, George, Best (optimistic with this one)
3: Cole, Brookes, Nel
4+5: Itoje, Gray, Wyn-Jones, Charteris, Henderson...hard to leave out Lawes, Launchbury, Kruis etc
6: O'Mahony, Haskell
7: Warburton, SOB
8: Vunipola, Faletau, Hughes....sorry Jamie.
9: Murray, B.Youngs, Webb
10: Sexton, Farrell, Biggar
12+13: Roberts, Davies, Henshaw, Tuilagi, Joseph
11+14: Watson, North, Nowell, Seymour
15: Brown, Hogg, Halfpenny
