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Postby erskinechilders » October 13th, 2016, 10:28 am

Just thinking of the starting Lions team at this point in time. Very very far out but imo it'll go something like this:

15. Stuart Hogg
14. Anthony Watson
13. Jonathan Joseph
12. Robbie Henshaw
11. George North
10. Jonathan Sexton
9. Conor Murray
8. Billy Vunipola
7. Sam Warburton
6. Taulupe Faletau
5. Alun Wyn Jones (c)
4. Maro Itoje
3. WP Nel
2. Dylan Hartley
1. Jack McGrath

16. Jamie George
17. Mako Vunipola
18. Dan Cole
19. Iain Henderson
20. Justin Tipuric / Sean O'Brien
21. Rhys Webb
22. Owen Farrell
23. Jared Payne
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Re: Lions 2017

Postby neiliog93 » October 13th, 2016, 3:52 pm

Payne probably won't even make the wider squad. He'll probably use Faletau as an impact sub off the bench and put Haskell at 6. Could see Tuilagi in one of the centre spots. Also think Dan Cole will start, WP Nel has got way too much praise on the back of a decent 6 Nations in 2016, IMO.
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Re: Lions 2017

Postby CiaranIrl » October 17th, 2016, 3:27 pm

erskinechilders wrote:Just thinking of the starting Lions team at this point in time. Very very far out but imo it'll go something like this:

15. Stuart Hogg
14. Anthony Watson
13. Jonathan Joseph
12. Robbie Henshaw
11. George North
10. Jonathan Sexton
9. Conor Murray
8. Billy Vunipola
7. Sam Warburton
6. Taulupe Faletau
5. Alun Wyn Jones (c)
4. Maro Itoje
3. WP Nel
2. Dylan Hartley
1. Jack McGrath

16. Jamie George
17. Mako Vunipola
18. Dan Cole
19. Iain Henderson
20. Justin Tipuric / Sean O'Brien
21. Rhys Webb
22. Owen Farrell
23. Jared Payne


That's probably not a million miles off. I like the AWJ suggestion for Captain actually. Makes sense.

I'm not sure about 6, 12, 14 & 23, but the rest seem pretty likely to me. 3 and 9 could possibly switch with the bench versions.

I could imagine Henderson starting at 6, and having two impact back rows like O'Brien / Stander / Faletau on the bench. He might go with Roberts or Tuilagi at 12, and its hard to call a right wing.
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Re: Lions 2017

Postby Degz » October 19th, 2016, 12:36 pm

A Gatland coached side without Roberts or Davies? No chance.

I'd say Farrell is ahead of J10 at this moment in time too.
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Re: Lions 2017

Postby CiaranIrl » October 19th, 2016, 8:09 pm

Degz wrote:A Gatland coached side without Roberts or Davies? No chance.

I'd say Farrell is ahead of J10 at this moment in time too.


Yes on Roberts, but not Davies. Hasn't played well in the last year really. Even Stephen fanboy Jones didn't have him in his Welsh/English 15 in the ST.
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Re: Lions 2017

Postby neiliog93 » October 20th, 2016, 1:53 am

I can see Henshaw being picked at 13 (he's big, after all) with Tuilagi to come in off the bench. Unless Davies' form recovers, in which case he'll be straight back in.
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Re: Lions 2017

Postby erskinechilders » November 7th, 2016, 8:23 pm

Serious performances from Henshaw,Sexton, Murray, Furlong and McGrath... Murray Henshaw and Furlong shoe-ins for the starting team!
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Re: Lions 2017

Postby simonokeeffe » November 7th, 2016, 8:30 pm

erskinechilders wrote:Serious performances from Henshaw,Sexton, Murray, Furlong and McGrath... Murray Henshaw and Furlong shoe-ins for the starting team!


Furlong could be the relative bolter there, TH is not a deep position for the Lions: Lee is injury prone and and doesnt seem to have lived up to early hype/been the same post op, Nel and Cole are surmountable obstacles,a nd Furlong probably the best ball player of all 4
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Re: Lions 2017

Postby Dave Cahill » November 7th, 2016, 8:49 pm

I've never been able to understand the hype around Samson Lee. He was sh!t when I first saw him, and he was sh!t the last time I saw him, and he didn't improve in-between
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Re: Lions 2017

Postby Oldschoolsocks » November 7th, 2016, 9:24 pm

Insight: finally dawned on me why I dislike the lions so much - it turns me into a quasi turnip eating orangina drinking people's republican loudly declaring stupidity, blindness and just plain bias in any team selection that doesn't include Sexytoes at 10, Heaslip at 8, and Murray at 9.
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Re: Lions 2017

Postby simonokeeffe » November 7th, 2016, 10:49 pm

Dave Cahill wrote:I've never been able to understand the hype around Samson Lee. He was sh!t when I first saw him, and he was sh!t the last time I saw him, and he didn't improve in-between


hey its also not like they can take him AND Marler on the same tour
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Re: Lions 2017

Postby artaneboy » November 7th, 2016, 10:52 pm

Dave Cahill wrote:I've never been able to understand the hype around Samson Lee. He was sh!t when I first saw him, and he was sh!t the last time I saw him, and he didn't improve in-between

He's Welsh. Any young prop from the Principality is assumed to be a foundation of promise no matter what the evidence of his playing career would seem to indicate to the untutored (i.e. non-Welsh) eye. it was ever thus....
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Re: Lions 2017

Postby Dave Cahill » November 8th, 2016, 1:14 am

artaneboy wrote:
Dave Cahill wrote:I've never been able to understand the hype around Samson Lee. He was sh!t when I first saw him, and he was sh!t the last time I saw him, and he didn't improve in-between

He's Welsh. Any young prop from the Principality is assumed to be a foundation of promise no matter what the evidence of his playing career would seem to indicate to the untutored (i.e. non-Welsh) eye. it was ever thus....


That happens alright, but I factored that in! Hes a Scarlet and they're less inclined to the hyperbole than their neighbours and this was in person, talking to folks over there - not the usual media stuff. I just have never been able to see it. I remember a respected denizen of this parish telling me to keep an eye out for him if he started against us at a game we were both at over there (and in fairness there was a some doubt about an injury he may have been carrying), but if he was carrying an injury he would have dropped it - he was dreadful
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Re: Lions 2017

Postby backrower8 » November 8th, 2016, 3:23 pm

I have reposted my post with squad prediction to the Lions section of the International Rugby
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Re: Lions 2017

Postby backrower8 » November 8th, 2016, 3:39 pm

I have reposted my Matchday 23 to the correct (Lions) page on the International Rugby board
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Re: Lions 2017

Postby offshorerules » November 12th, 2016, 6:50 pm

Way too early to be predicting team.
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Re: Lions 2017

Postby fourthirtythree » November 12th, 2016, 7:34 pm

Of course it is, it's too early until around the time they pick it.

If by predicting the team you mean making a close to accurate prediction of what the team will be when it plays.

If your purpose is to suggest what it might be were it picked now, for you know fun speculation stuff, it's never too soon. And doing that over time gives us a sense of how the fortunes of teams and players are going.

For example I would have thought starting off that the bulk of the team would come from England with Wales second (partially due to Gatland having familiarity with them and they with what he wants). Now I see Wales slipping and Irish players coming into contention where I might not have seen it before. As pure nerdy fun why not?
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Re: Lions 2017

Postby simonokeeffe » November 13th, 2016, 3:09 pm

predicting it is fun though

as it stands the Welsh makeup may be waning
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Re: Lions 2017

Postby Peg Leg » November 13th, 2016, 7:30 pm

simonokeeffe wrote:predicting it is fun though

as it stands the Welsh makeup may be waning

But their fake tan is holding up well.
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Re: Lions 2017

Postby simonokeeffe » November 13th, 2016, 8:20 pm

Peg Leg wrote:
simonokeeffe wrote:predicting it is fun though

as it stands the Welsh makeup may be waning

But their fake tan is holding up well.


the pink cowboy hats protect them from the worst of it
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