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.....and holders of the Raeburn shield (if it wasn't imaginary).
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It's on sky channel 423 free view now
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Nice piece to start us off. From the herald itself:
http://m.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/arti ... d=11743128
http://m.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/arti ... d=11743128
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Terrible etiquette for me to quote myself, but grant Fox interview worth a listen there. The New Zealand humility and respect for the game isn't really corporate marketing bullshit ye know. It's real enough. They really do seem to treasure the way the game is played, at least as much as the result. That may change if we can beat them again mind you!Fan with smartphone wrote:Nice piece to start us off. From the herald itself:
http://m.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/arti ... d=11743128
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The extraordinary aspect of this win is that there was nothing extraordinary about the performance. No 60m intercept try, no individual magic break, no dramatic last ditch tackle to keep them out.
Each Irish player did yesterday what he has done on previous occasions. But they all did it. They all performed together for 80 minutes plus, with a level of belief that they could do it at this level and with an enduring dedication to think, decide and execute in every situation.
In world rugby terms, this performance and victory has resonated around the sports world, in a manner that was, perhaps, only matched by the victory of Japan over mighty South Africa during the Rugby World Cup 2015. In both instances, it was not just the occurrence that has been remarked on, but, more significantly, the manner of execution of the win. Tactical and technical excellence were every bit as evident as passion and will to win.
Without doubt enormous credit must be paid to all of the Coaching Staff. The defence and tackling were magnificent. The line-outs were a centrepiece of analysis and execution and denied the NZ team vital possession. The scrums, with every combination, were never less than solid and sometimes even dominant. The clearouts were decisive. The ball presentation was exemplary. The passing and off-loads were excellent and rarely risky. The kicking, whether in the air to chase or line kicks for ground gains, were of the highest calibre. Above all, the confidence of each player in the guys beside him was total. The overall fitness level of every Irish player was monumental and at no stage suffered in comparision to their opponents.
From Joe Schmidt through Andy Farrell, Simon Easterby, Greg Feek, Richie Murphy, Jason Cowman, Mervyn Murphy, Michael Kearney and every other backroom member, this was excellence in operation The game plan included resilience and mental toughness because, inevitably, there were mistakes and moments of brilliance from our opponents, but these were anticipated and therefore were not the cause of collapse, merely re-alignment and adjustment.
There will be no fear of the return game in a fortnight. Unlike previous occasions where we got close, there will be no anticipation of "What have we done, we've awoken the lion". Now we have them in front of our own people. Now we have this Squad and more, players who missed out on yesterday, but who adamantly believe they can contribute to Ireland repeating that performance. I've always been an optimist about the level to which Irish Rugby can rise, but never have I been more confident that there are now sufficient Irish players, with the requisite skills, who can play to this level and, with the confidence that yesterdays result engendered, throw off the shackles of the fear of losing and prove that we have what it takes as a rugby nation to play in that fashion more often.
There were so many factors which contributed to that performance and victory. The close-run heartbreak of 2013. The under-performance at RWC2015. The manner and unexpectedness of Connacht's Pro12 victory last year. The emotional 'reality-check' of Anthony Foley's death in Paris. The unique opportunity to play NZ in Chicago in the week the Cubs broke their 108 year hoodoo. The loss of three senior 2nd rows to NZ when facing opponents they know they should respect but to whom they find it hard to believe they might ever lose. Joe Schmidt's charisma, drive, attention to detail and quiet desire to ensure that NZ rugby should respect what Irish rugby is about.
Rugby is only a sport and yesterday's game was a Test Match, not part of any competition. Nevertheless, it was a momentous performance and a well-merited Rugby victory, based on all of the aspects of the game that have been valued for as long as the game has been played.
Sincere thanks to all of the Irish Camp who contributed to that great acheivement
Each Irish player did yesterday what he has done on previous occasions. But they all did it. They all performed together for 80 minutes plus, with a level of belief that they could do it at this level and with an enduring dedication to think, decide and execute in every situation.
In world rugby terms, this performance and victory has resonated around the sports world, in a manner that was, perhaps, only matched by the victory of Japan over mighty South Africa during the Rugby World Cup 2015. In both instances, it was not just the occurrence that has been remarked on, but, more significantly, the manner of execution of the win. Tactical and technical excellence were every bit as evident as passion and will to win.
Without doubt enormous credit must be paid to all of the Coaching Staff. The defence and tackling were magnificent. The line-outs were a centrepiece of analysis and execution and denied the NZ team vital possession. The scrums, with every combination, were never less than solid and sometimes even dominant. The clearouts were decisive. The ball presentation was exemplary. The passing and off-loads were excellent and rarely risky. The kicking, whether in the air to chase or line kicks for ground gains, were of the highest calibre. Above all, the confidence of each player in the guys beside him was total. The overall fitness level of every Irish player was monumental and at no stage suffered in comparision to their opponents.
From Joe Schmidt through Andy Farrell, Simon Easterby, Greg Feek, Richie Murphy, Jason Cowman, Mervyn Murphy, Michael Kearney and every other backroom member, this was excellence in operation The game plan included resilience and mental toughness because, inevitably, there were mistakes and moments of brilliance from our opponents, but these were anticipated and therefore were not the cause of collapse, merely re-alignment and adjustment.
There will be no fear of the return game in a fortnight. Unlike previous occasions where we got close, there will be no anticipation of "What have we done, we've awoken the lion". Now we have them in front of our own people. Now we have this Squad and more, players who missed out on yesterday, but who adamantly believe they can contribute to Ireland repeating that performance. I've always been an optimist about the level to which Irish Rugby can rise, but never have I been more confident that there are now sufficient Irish players, with the requisite skills, who can play to this level and, with the confidence that yesterdays result engendered, throw off the shackles of the fear of losing and prove that we have what it takes as a rugby nation to play in that fashion more often.
There were so many factors which contributed to that performance and victory. The close-run heartbreak of 2013. The under-performance at RWC2015. The manner and unexpectedness of Connacht's Pro12 victory last year. The emotional 'reality-check' of Anthony Foley's death in Paris. The unique opportunity to play NZ in Chicago in the week the Cubs broke their 108 year hoodoo. The loss of three senior 2nd rows to NZ when facing opponents they know they should respect but to whom they find it hard to believe they might ever lose. Joe Schmidt's charisma, drive, attention to detail and quiet desire to ensure that NZ rugby should respect what Irish rugby is about.
Rugby is only a sport and yesterday's game was a Test Match, not part of any competition. Nevertheless, it was a momentous performance and a well-merited Rugby victory, based on all of the aspects of the game that have been valued for as long as the game has been played.
Sincere thanks to all of the Irish Camp who contributed to that great acheivement
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The extraordinary aspect of this win is that there was nothing extraordinary about the performance. No 60m intercept try, no individual magic break, no dramatic last ditch tackle to keep them out.
Each Irish player did yesterday what he has done on previous occasions. But they all did it. They all performed together for 80 minutes plus, with a level of belief that they could do it at this level and with an enduring dedication to think, decide and execute in every situation.
In world rugby terms, this performance and victory has resonated around the sports world, in a manner that was, perhaps, only matched by the victory of Japan over mighty South Africa during the Rugby World Cup 2015. In both instances, it was not just the occurrence that has been remarked on, but, more significantly, the manner of execution of the win. Tactical and technical excellence were every bit as evident as passion and will to win.
Without doubt enormous credit must be paid to all of the Coaching Staff. The defence and tackling were magnificent. The line-outs were a centrepiece of analysis and execution and denied the NZ team vital possession. The scrums, with every combination, were never less than solid and sometimes even dominant. The clearouts were decisive. The ball presentation was exemplary. The passing and off-loads were excellent and rarely risky. The kicking, whether in the air to chase or line kicks for ground gains, were of the highest calibre. Above all, the confidence of each player in the guys beside him was total. The overall fitness level of every Irish player was monumental and at no stage suffered in comparision to their opponents.
From Joe Schmidt through Andy Farrell, Simon Easterby, Greg Feek, Richie Murphy, Jason Cowman, Mervyn Murphy, Michael Kearney and every other backroom member, this was excellence in operation The game plan included resilience and mental toughness because, inevitably, there were mistakes and moments of brilliance from our opponents, but these were anticipated and therefore were not the cause of collapse, merely re-alignment and adjustment.
There will be no fear of the return game in a fortnight. Unlike previous occasions where we got close, there will be no anticipation of "What have we done, we've awoken the lion". Now we have them in front of our own people. Now we have this Squad and more, players who missed out on yesterday, but who adamantly believe they can contribute to Ireland repeating that performance. I've always been an optimist about the level to which Irish Rugby can rise, but never have I been more confident that there are now sufficient Irish players, with the requisite skills, who can play to this level and, with the confidence that yesterdays result engendered, throw off the shackles of the fear of losing and prove that we have what it takes as a rugby nation to play in that fashion more often.
There were so many factors which contributed to that performance and victory. The close-run heartbreak of 2013. The under-performance at RWC2015. The manner and unexpectedness of Connacht's Pro12 victory last year. The emotional 'reality-check' of Anthony Foley's death in Paris. The unique opportunity to play NZ in Chicago in the week the Cubs broke their 108 year hoodoo. The loss of three senior 2nd rows to NZ when facing opponents they know they should respect but to whom they find it hard to believe they might ever lose. Joe Schmidt's charisma, drive, attention to detail and quiet desire to ensure that NZ rugby should respect what Irish rugby is about.
Rugby is only a sport and yesterday's game was a Test Match, not part of any competition. Nevertheless, it was a momentous performance and a well-merited Rugby victory, based on all of the aspects of the game that have been valued for as long as the game has been played.
Sincere thanks to all of the Irish Camp who contributed to that great acheivement
Great post ruckedtobits. That about covers it!
Last night a big fillip for the bid for the rugby World Cup too. I mean to host it like. Such a monumental day. The atmosphere consistently provided by Irish support is not bettered by anyone. I think you can expect to see a World Cup in the states sooner rather than later into the bargain.
Each Irish player did yesterday what he has done on previous occasions. But they all did it. They all performed together for 80 minutes plus, with a level of belief that they could do it at this level and with an enduring dedication to think, decide and execute in every situation.
In world rugby terms, this performance and victory has resonated around the sports world, in a manner that was, perhaps, only matched by the victory of Japan over mighty South Africa during the Rugby World Cup 2015. In both instances, it was not just the occurrence that has been remarked on, but, more significantly, the manner of execution of the win. Tactical and technical excellence were every bit as evident as passion and will to win.
Without doubt enormous credit must be paid to all of the Coaching Staff. The defence and tackling were magnificent. The line-outs were a centrepiece of analysis and execution and denied the NZ team vital possession. The scrums, with every combination, were never less than solid and sometimes even dominant. The clearouts were decisive. The ball presentation was exemplary. The passing and off-loads were excellent and rarely risky. The kicking, whether in the air to chase or line kicks for ground gains, were of the highest calibre. Above all, the confidence of each player in the guys beside him was total. The overall fitness level of every Irish player was monumental and at no stage suffered in comparision to their opponents.
From Joe Schmidt through Andy Farrell, Simon Easterby, Greg Feek, Richie Murphy, Jason Cowman, Mervyn Murphy, Michael Kearney and every other backroom member, this was excellence in operation The game plan included resilience and mental toughness because, inevitably, there were mistakes and moments of brilliance from our opponents, but these were anticipated and therefore were not the cause of collapse, merely re-alignment and adjustment.
There will be no fear of the return game in a fortnight. Unlike previous occasions where we got close, there will be no anticipation of "What have we done, we've awoken the lion". Now we have them in front of our own people. Now we have this Squad and more, players who missed out on yesterday, but who adamantly believe they can contribute to Ireland repeating that performance. I've always been an optimist about the level to which Irish Rugby can rise, but never have I been more confident that there are now sufficient Irish players, with the requisite skills, who can play to this level and, with the confidence that yesterdays result engendered, throw off the shackles of the fear of losing and prove that we have what it takes as a rugby nation to play in that fashion more often.
There were so many factors which contributed to that performance and victory. The close-run heartbreak of 2013. The under-performance at RWC2015. The manner and unexpectedness of Connacht's Pro12 victory last year. The emotional 'reality-check' of Anthony Foley's death in Paris. The unique opportunity to play NZ in Chicago in the week the Cubs broke their 108 year hoodoo. The loss of three senior 2nd rows to NZ when facing opponents they know they should respect but to whom they find it hard to believe they might ever lose. Joe Schmidt's charisma, drive, attention to detail and quiet desire to ensure that NZ rugby should respect what Irish rugby is about.
Rugby is only a sport and yesterday's game was a Test Match, not part of any competition. Nevertheless, it was a momentous performance and a well-merited Rugby victory, based on all of the aspects of the game that have been valued for as long as the game has been played.
Sincere thanks to all of the Irish Camp who contributed to that great acheivement
Great post ruckedtobits. That about covers it!
Last night a big fillip for the bid for the rugby World Cup too. I mean to host it like. Such a monumental day. The atmosphere consistently provided by Irish support is not bettered by anyone. I think you can expect to see a World Cup in the states sooner rather than later into the bargain.
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Classy article. Hard to capture the satisfaction as much as the joy that the win brings. Great coaching and selection of course- how could we doubt them, but I think the key factor is the obvious one of having strength in depth. Even three years ago we had sketchy cover in many positions; but now even with Jackson, O'Mahony, Seanie, Henderson, etc. missing we had the replacements needed.Fan with smartphone wrote:Nice piece to start us off. From the herald itself:
http://m.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/arti ... d=11743128
We need not fear two weeks time either- but obviously there will be a reaction. Bring it on...
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Thinking of all who went before and led the way. Willie Anderson advancing on them. O'Driscoll having to go off in 2013. Anthony Foley. I remember John Muldoon breaking his arm on tour against the Maoris. He kept on tackling Rory Best-style until the next break in play. The women. The under 20s. The coaches. Ah it's euphoria. It's everything you hoped it would be. Is it too much to ask for a series victory in Dublin?!
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An amazing victory! What makes it sweeter is the lack of injuries (apart from Jordi Murphy). Schmidt can now play a settled 23 with maybe 1 change depending on Murphy's injury assessment. This gives us a serious chance to beat them again on the 19th. The hoodoo has being lifted! They did it!
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JVDF on for Jordi and SOB onto bench? And that's without discussing Stander v POM. Jesus wept but we have insane depth in the back rowsunshiner1 wrote:An amazing victory! What makes it sweeter is the lack of injuries (apart from Jordi Murphy). Schmidt can now play a settled 23 with maybe 1 change depending on Murphy's injury assessment. This gives us a serious chance to beat them again on the 19th. The hoodoo has being lifted! They did it!
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http://m.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/arti ... d=11743353
Herald also with an article about how did we let Schmidt go?
Fools!
But he'll be inked in for 2019 now I'd have to argue. Let's enjoy him when he is here. The next 3years will be fun for a start.
Herald also with an article about how did we let Schmidt go?
Fools!
But he'll be inked in for 2019 now I'd have to argue. Let's enjoy him when he is here. The next 3years will be fun for a start.
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I'm just hoping Joe says no to any Lions approaches we need to stay focused on team Ireland here and build for RWC 2019 with some good 6N in between, dare I say it maybe even having a tilt at another grand slam but at least a championship win, keep Lansdowne full and keep the finances coming in to fund the whole system.
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TBH, I thought VDF was slightly overwhelmed he's not as strong over the ball against the top opposition yet, that may come in time though.TerenureJim wrote:JVDF on for Jordi and SOB onto bench? And that's without discussing Stander v POM. Jesus wept but we have insane depth in the back rowsunshiner1 wrote:An amazing victory! What makes it sweeter is the lack of injuries (apart from Jordi Murphy). Schmidt can now play a settled 23 with maybe 1 change depending on Murphy's injury assessment. This gives us a serious chance to beat them again on the 19th. The hoodoo has being lifted! They did it!
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Ireland have traditionally produced a potentially match winning performance one in every three games they play against NZ.
By changing that ratio the seemingly impossible became doable.
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By changing that ratio the seemingly impossible became doable.
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Any update on Jordi's injury?
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2nd highest tackle count (1 fewer than Stander) despite being on the pitch 25% less..Oldschoolsocks wrote:TBH, I thought VDF was slightly overwhelmed he's not as strong over the ball against the top opposition yet, that may come in time though.TerenureJim wrote:JVDF on for Jordi and SOB onto bench? And that's without discussing Stander v POM. Jesus wept but we have insane depth in the back rowsunshiner1 wrote:An amazing victory! What makes it sweeter is the lack of injuries (apart from Jordi Murphy). Schmidt can now play a settled 23 with maybe 1 change depending on Murphy's injury assessment. This gives us a serious chance to beat them again on the 19th. The hoodoo has being lifted! They did it!
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No doubt he tackled his heart out, nor am I knocking his performance, just think he's not the finished article yet and there's more to come.
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He'd be mad to get involved there. Not sure I would want sexton or seanie O'Brien anywhere near it either. Or Healy. Or Jack McGrath actually who has been playing massive rugby for a long time now. Or the way it's going andy Farrell or Stuart Lancaster either for that matter. Lancaster would be out of contract actually, but if he is going to stay here then it would be good to sign up and if so the lions is way too much of a sidetrack to be able to do your primary job well.TerenureJim wrote:I'm just hoping Joe says no to any Lions approaches we need to stay focused on team Ireland here and build for RWC 2019 with some good 6N in between, dare I say it maybe even having a tilt at another grand slam but at least a championship win, keep Lansdowne full and keep the finances coming in to fund the whole system.
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Ps: last 2 games of this year's 6 nations- wales (away) on the 10th and England (home) on the 18th. France at home 2 weeks before wales.