Canada Test 12/11/16, 19:15

[simonokeeffe]

IMO JOD is a utility backrower like Murphy and his strength/likelihood of making squads and matchday squads is based on his versatility; Conan is a better 8, Leavy is a better 7, Ruddock is a better 6 but JOD can cover all 3

know its the peril of official listings but 6'2 and 97kg seems too small to be a serious international no8, which brings us to the old problem/question of whether versatility can sometimes be a hindrance, but size for an international 8 is the only criticism AT ALL I could have of him

[Twist]

Does anyone know the story with Rhys Ruddock? Is it just match fitness keeping him out?


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[Laighin Break]

I'd say so. He's been out injured and only played about 20 minutes from the bench against Zebre.

[fourthirtythree]

Well that and CJ Stander are keeping him out.

[Ruckedtobits]

Just to whet the appetite, here's a thread from the Rugby Canada website which summarises their key players who are playing in Europe. It's certainly not a bundle of laughs for them on the injury front and there's a good few familiar faces we won't be seeing on Saturday.

http://www.rugbycanada.ca/leagues/newsl ... page=97375

[Ruckedtobits]

The Full Canadian Squad announcement and details:

LANGFORD: 27 October 2016 — Canada’s senior men’s head coach Mark Anscombe has named a 28-man squad for next month’s test matches against Ireland, Romania and Samoa.

The squad features a wealth of experience but also a blend of youth including Admir Cejvanovic, Ben LeSage and Conor Keys who could all earn their first test caps on tour. Brett Beukeboom, Connor Braid, Phil Mack, Conor Trainor and DTH van der Merwe also rejoin the squad having not featured for Canada since last year’s Rugby World Cup.

Furthermore, 18 players return from Anscombe’s June RISEAsOne Summer Series squad in Kyle Baillie, Ray Barkwill, Nick Blevins, Aaron Carpenter, Matt Evans, Ciaran Hearn, Matt Heaton, Eric Howard, Jake Ilnicki, LeSage, Gordon McRorie, Evan Olmstead, Pat Parfrey, Taylor Paris, Lucas Rumball, Djustice Sears-Duru, Brock Staller and Matt Tierney. Rob Brouwer, Ryan Kotlewski and Clay Panga make up the rest of the squad.

“We’ve picked the best squad we can from the players available,” Anscombe said. “It’s unfortunate we’ve still got some guys out injured but we’ve brought back some quality players.”

Canada, ranked 18th in the world, will face sixth ranked Ireland at the Aviva Stadium on Nov. 12 before tackling 16th ranked Romania a week later in Bucharest. Canada concludes its tour against 14th ranked Samoa on Nov. 25 in Grenoble, France.

“Theses games are extremely vital,” Anscombe said. “We’re playing a Tier 1 nation in Dublin in front of a full house and we don’t get to do that very often so it’s a great opportunity for the guys to show what they are capable of. With ranking points on the line, the other two games are critical if we want to move up in the world rankings.”

Canada last faced Ireland at the 2015 Rugby World Cup with the Irish prevailing 50-7. Canada is 0-6-1 all-time against Ireland. At the same tournament, Canada were narrowly beaten 17-15 by Romania and have claimed victory in two of their six previous encounters.

Canada were also denied a win against Samoa last year as part of the Pacific Nations Cup as the visitors scored a last gasp try to steal a 21-20 win at BMO Field in Toronto. Canada has never beaten Samoa in five attempts.

The November tour continues what has been a busy 2016 for Canada’s senior men’s team. After playing five games in the inaugural Americas Rugby Championship, Canada played three tests against Japan, Russia and Italy as part of the RISEAsOne Summer Series. A Canada ‘A’ team then tackled the Doncaster Knights, Ulster and the Glasgow Warriors in an August tour before playing three games as part of the Americas Pacific Challenge in Uruguay earlier this month.

Broadcast details for all three games are still to be confirmed.

Canada’s November Tour Roster (Name, Club, Roster):

Kyle Baillie – (Westshore RFC/Atlantic Rock) Summerside, PEI

Ray Barkwill – (Castaway Wanderers/Ontario Blues) Niagara Falls, ON

Brett Beukeboom – (Cornish Pirates) Lindsay, ON

Nick Blevins – (Calgary Hornets/Prairie Wolf Pack) Calgary, AB

Connor Braid – (James Bay AA/BC Bears) Victoria, BC

Rob Brouwer – (Lindsay RFC/Ontario Blues) Lindsay, ON

Aaron Carpenter – (London Welsh/Ontario Blues) Brantford, ON

Admir Cejvanovic – (Burnaby Lake RFC/BC Bears) Burnaby, BC

Matt Evans – (Cornish Pirates) Maple Bay, BC

Ciaran Hearn – (London Irish/Atlantic Rock) Conception Bay South, NL

Matt Heaton – (Darlington Mowden Park/Atlantic Rock) Godmanchester, QC

Eric Howard – (Brantford Harlequins/Ontario Blues) Ottawa, ON

Jake Ilnicki – (Manawatu Turbos/BC Bears) Williams Lake, BC

Conor Keys – (UVIC Vikes/Atlantic Rock) Stittsville, ON

Ryan Kotlewski – (Westshore RFC/Prairie Wolf Pack) Calgary, AB

Ben Lesage – (UBC Thunderbirds/Prairie Wolf Pack) Calgary, AB

Phil Mack – (James Bay AA/BC Bears) Victoria, BC

Gordon McRorie – (UBC Old Boys Ravens/Prairie Wolf Pack) Calgary, AB

Evan Olmstead – (Newcastle Falcons/Prairie Wolf Pack) Vancouver, BC

Clay Panga – (Westshore RFC/Prairie Wolf Pack) Calgary, AB

Patrick Parfrey – (James Bay AA/Atlantic Rock) St. John’s, NL

Taylor Paris – (Agen) Barrie, ON

Lucas Rumball – (Balmy Beach RFC/Ontario Blues) Scarborough, ON

Djustice Sears -Duru – (Glasgow Warriors/Ontario Blues) Oakville, ON

Brock Staller – (UBC Thunderbirds/BC Bears) Vancouver, BC

Matt Tierney – (Section Paloise/Ontario Blues) Oakville, ON

Conor Trainor – (RC Vannes/BC Bears) Vancouver, BC

DTH van Der Merwe – (Scarlets) Victoria, BC

Unavailable for selection:

Tyler Ardron – (Ospreys) Lakefield, ON

Hubert Buydens – (Castaway Wanderers/Prairie Wolf Pack) Saskatoon, SK

Jamie Cudmore – (Oyonnax) Squamish, BC

Nanyak Dala – (Castaway Wanderers/Prairie Wolf Pack) Saskatoon, SK

Kyle Gilmour – (St. Albert RFC/Prairie Wolf Pack) St. Albert, AB

Jeff Hassler – (Ospreys) Okotoks, AB

Jamie Mackenzie - (UBCOB Ravens/Ontario Blues) Oakville, ON

Phil Mackenzie – (Unattached/Ontario Blues), Oakville, ON

Dan Moor – (Balmy Beach RFC/Ontario Blues) Toronto, ON

Cam Pierce – (Section Paloise/Kelowna Crows) Vernon, BC

Jebb Sinclair – (London Irish/Atlantic Rock) Fredericton, NB

Andrew Tiedemann – (Bourgoin/Prairie Wolf Pack) St. Albert, AB

Jordan Wilson-Ross - (James Bay AA/Ontario Blues) Alliston, ON

Men’s Coaching Staff:

Mark Anscombe – Head Coach

Graeme Moffat – Assistant Coach

Mike Shelley – Scrum Coach

Aaron Takel – Performance Analyst

Michael Deasy – Strength and Conditioning

Mallory White – Physiotherapist

Jessica Smith – Physiotherapist

Dr. Peet Du Toit – Doctor

Mark Winokur – Tour Manager

Alana Gattinger – Operations & Logistics Manager

Canada’s November Tour Schedule:

Canada vs. Ireland — Nov. 12 — Aviva Stadium, Dublin — 2:15pm ET/11:15am PT

Canada vs. Romania — Nov. 19 — Stadionul Arcul de Triumf, Bucharest — 1pm ET/10am PT

Canada vs. Samoa — Nov. 25 —Stade des Alpes, Grenoble — 3pm ET/12pm PT

[erskinechilders]

The team I would like to see for the Canadian game is :

15. Tiernan O'Halloran
14. Craig Gilroy
13. Garry Ringrose
12. Luke Marshall
11. Keith Earls
10. Paddy Jackson
9. Kieran Marmion
8. Jack O'Donoghue
7. Sean O'Brien
6. Peter O'Mahony
5. Ultan Dillane
4. Iain Henderson
3. Finlay Bealham
2. Sean Cronin
1. Cian Healy

16. James Tracy
17. Dave Kilcoyne
18. John Ryan
19. Billy Holland
20. Dan Leavy
21. Luke McGrath
22. Joey Carbery
23. Darren Sweetman

[Oldschool]

The team I would like to see for the Canadian game is :

15. Tiernan O'Halloran
14. Craig Gilroy
13. Garry Ringrose
12. Luke Marshall
11. Keith Earls
10. Paddy Jackson
9. Kieran Marmion
8. Jack O'Donoghue
7. Sean O'Brien
6. Peter O'Mahony
5. Ultan Dillane
4. Iain Henderson
3. Finlay Bealham
2. Sean Cronin
1. Cian Healy

16. James Tracy
17. Dave Kilcoyne
18. John Ryan
19. Billy Holland
20. Dan Leavy
21. Luke McGrath
22. Joey Carbery
23. Darren Sweetman

That's a powerful looking team.

[offshorerules]

Kind of heard nothing about JOD this year which after such an impressive debut season is disappointing.

[simonokeeffe]

Kind of heard nothing about JOD this year which after such an impressive debut season is disappointing.

hes been in great form

if Henderson is available Im with our favourite gun runner on that selection

[offshorerules]

Good to hear.

[cormac]

wrong thread

[offshorerules]

Ah stay you're great craic.

[simonokeeffe]

Indo saying the team is

T O'Halloran; K Earls, G Ringrose, L Marshall, C Gilroy; P Jackson, K Marmion; C Healy, S Cronin, F Bealham; U Dillane, B Holland; P O'Mahony, J van der Flier, S O'Brien.

Replacements: J Tracy, D Kilcoyne, J Ryan, I Henderson, D Leavy, L McGrath, J Carbery, N Adeoloken

[cormac]

Indo saying the team is

T O'Halloran; K Earls, G Ringrose, L Marshall, C Gilroy; P Jackson, K Marmion; C Healy, S Cronin, F Bealham; U Dillane, B Holland; P O'Mahony, J van der Flier, S O'Brien.

Replacements: J Tracy, D Kilcoyne, J Ryan, I Henderson, D Leavy, L McGrath, J Carbery, N Adeoloken

Thornley has the same 23 (well he has the same 22 and one typo) but he has Henderson starting with Holland on the bench. His typo is having Jack McGrath as the replacement scrum-half.

[Oldschoolsocks]

Always liked SOB at 8


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[jezzer]

Hard to get up for this game, after last week and also because we will murder them.

I love seeing tier 2 and 3 nations get their tilt and a few quid, but I can't see this game being even slightly close. Maaaaaybe if they all go on solo missions to try to be noticed for NZ2 and Oz, but that would be so counterproductive I can't see it in any way.

[LeRouxIsPHat]

Hard to get up for this game, after last week and also because we will murder them.

I'm really looking forward to it. I know it shouldn't be a great test but you've got Healy, Cronin, Dillane, Henderson, POM, and SOB all fighting to get a shot at the All Blacks next week (either to start or just get in the squad) and then Ringrose making his debut and a few other new caps as well.

I can only imagine how annoyed POM, SOB, and Henderson are that they missed out last weekend, they must be straining at the leash. Hopefully the fact that we'll be putting a new team out will mean we keep a good level of intensity too.

[Dave Cahill]

There'll be a great vibe around the place - everyone will be up after last weekend, and probably half cut as its on quite late, it'll be an exciting team and there'll be tries aplenty. The game mightn't be Citizen Kane, but theres nothing wrong with a bit of Die Hard.

[LeRouxIsPHat]

I feel like that's very insulting to Die Hard and warrants a banning.