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Re: Let's Make The Foley '8' Stance a Tradition

Postby offshorerules » November 16th, 2016, 11:55 am

There was a bit of criticism in the NZ media about the Haka they did, an ex player said it showed a lack of respect and they should have performed a different one. Here's a linkey http://www.the42.ie/craig-dowd-lashes-o ... 0-Nov2016/
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Re: Let's Make The Foley '8' Stance a Tradition

Postby domhnallj » November 16th, 2016, 11:56 am

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A friend of mine working in the Aussie institute of sport told me that's how they recommended dealing with it (I guess that fits the campo narrative above) and they had looked at New Zealand and that they gave most of their penalties away in the early part of the game due to over-hyping. That was from the early 2000s mind you. I think the kiwis themselves use the haka better now than then.



I wonder how much it helps them now. Used to love it and it sounded great in Chicago but I definitely felt like it was more for show than anything else because of the version they used and how long it went on for. Might be wrong but just get the feeling that its meaning is diminishing.


it diminished out the door for me when the Welsh wanted it to be held before the anthems (I think) and the Kiwis lost their shite and did it in the changing rooms.
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Re: Let's Make The Foley '8' Stance a Tradition

Postby LeRouxIsPHat » November 16th, 2016, 12:00 pm

I actually thought that was great, whereas now I'd expect them to kick up a fuss for marketing reasons and not even contemplate doing it where it can't be seen.

Edit: I didn't agree with them having an issue with that btw, but thought that doing it in the dressing room having made that decision was cool.
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Re: Let's Make The Foley '8' Stance a Tradition

Postby simonokeeffe » November 16th, 2016, 1:08 pm

LeRouxIsPHat wrote:I actually thought that was great, whereas now I'd expect them to kick up a fuss for marketing reasons and not even contemplate doing it where it can't be seen.

Edit: I didn't agree with them having an issue with that btw, but thought that doing it in the dressing room having made that decision was cool.


Yeah AIG and Adidas would go ape if it was pulled
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Re: Let's Make The Foley '8' Stance a Tradition

Postby waterboy » November 16th, 2016, 1:17 pm

backrower8 wrote:It obviously doesn't fly for this forum but I posted it somewhere else and got 15 likes for it to date. Thanks for the feedback. It seems that people think something would be nice but that the Foleyassiciation is not to be repeated for people here. Any other suggestions or do we do what everyone else does as infinitum? As a player I would want something more myself.


Wow you got a whole 15 likes on some social media shyte, well done, sure it has to be a tradition now so
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Re: Let's Make The Foley '8' Stance a Tradition

Postby offshorerules » November 16th, 2016, 1:30 pm

No need for that waterboy.
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Re: Let's Make The Foley '8' Stance a Tradition

Postby waterboy » November 16th, 2016, 1:34 pm

No need for what? He bigged up getting some likes on a different format as if this was justification for his makey uppy tradition. It's nonsense
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Re: Let's Make The Foley '8' Stance a Tradition

Postby offshorerules » November 16th, 2016, 1:57 pm

The personal abuse, but you knew that already.
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Re: Let's Make The Foley '8' Stance a Tradition

Postby Peg Leg » November 16th, 2016, 1:57 pm

offshorerules wrote:Either way I'll be fascinated to see what response, if any, Ireland have to the haka this weekend.

I've heard tell that on completion of the Haka, Grace Jones will appear from within a cocoon formed of the Irish squad to deliver a rendition of Pull up to the Bumper, the team will then perform their choreographed response.
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Re: Let's Make The Foley '8' Stance a Tradition

Postby Peg Leg » November 16th, 2016, 1:58 pm

domhnallj wrote:
LeRouxIsPHat wrote:
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A friend of mine working in the Aussie institute of sport told me that's how they recommended dealing with it (I guess that fits the campo narrative above) and they had looked at New Zealand and that they gave most of their penalties away in the early part of the game due to over-hyping. That was from the early 2000s mind you. I think the kiwis themselves use the haka better now than then.



I wonder how much it helps them now. Used to love it and it sounded great in Chicago but I definitely felt like it was more for show than anything else because of the version they used and how long it went on for. Might be wrong but just get the feeling that its meaning is diminishing.


it diminished out the door for me when the Welsh wanted it to be held before the anthems (I think) and the Kiwis lost their shite and did it in the changing rooms.

Hasn't been a squeak out of the locker doors since.
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Re: Let's Make The Foley '8' Stance a Tradition

Postby Fan with smartphone » November 16th, 2016, 2:19 pm

LeRouxIsPHat wrote:
Fan with smartphone wrote:
A friend of mine working in the Aussie institute of sport told me that's how they recommended dealing with it (I guess that fits the campo narrative above) and they had looked at New Zealand and that they gave most of their penalties away in the early part of the game due to over-hyping. That was from the early 2000s mind you. I think the kiwis themselves use the haka better now than then.



I wonder how much it helps them now. Used to love it and it sounded great in Chicago but I definitely felt like it was more for show than anything else because of the version they used and how long it went on for. Might be wrong but just get the feeling that its meaning is diminishing.



Piri Weepu seemed to be big for them on the haka side of things, so maybe it's slipped a little, but ah man it's still great to watch and great for them. I don't think their heads were in just a perfect space last week, but they should be this week. I reckon you'll see a special pre-match and match this week out of them. Gonna be great occasion again.
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Re: Let's Make The Foley '8' Stance a Tradition

Postby blockhead » November 16th, 2016, 2:25 pm

Couldn't we do a bit of Riverdance or maybe the Seige of Ennis? That would suck the fight out the blacks for sure!
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Re: Let's Make The Foley '8' Stance a Tradition

Postby waterboy » November 16th, 2016, 3:08 pm

offshorerules wrote:The personal abuse, but you knew that already.


No there wasn't
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Let's Make The Foley '8' Stance a Tradition

Postby Oldschoolsocks » November 16th, 2016, 3:23 pm

backrower8 wrote:... I posted it somewhere else and got 15 likes for it to date.
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Well that's me back in my box...



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Re: Let's Make The Foley '8' Stance a Tradition

Postby offshorerules » November 16th, 2016, 5:43 pm

backrower8 wrote:Folks let's campaign for Ireland to always line up in the 'Foley 8' stance when facing the Haka or any other prematch war dance.

Traditions have to start somewhere and this one started in the right place, for the right reasons and the right result. While honouring Axel is the starting point the No.8 resonates for lots of reasons.

It is a number at the heart of the team.

The 8 stance is also the symbol for infinity (when on its side) and infinite resolve, effort, teamwork all sit well with rugby.

It also looks good and works well with the dynamic of two units - forwards and backs united in their mission to resist and overcome the dancing opposition team.

Why not?
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Re: Let's Make The Foley '8' Stance a Tradition

Postby Oldschool » November 16th, 2016, 8:50 pm

Foley was representative of Munster rugby primarily.
Let Munster stand in a figure eight forever more if they wish/decide - that would indeed be a fitting tribute.
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Re: Let's Make The Foley '8' Stance a Tradition

Postby backrower8 » November 18th, 2016, 11:56 am

...news just in...17 likes and counting...no boosting either...that's more than the number of rejections on here...and when I get EU funding THIS WILL WE REALLY BIG!! Get on board now while you still have the chance!! Remember Brexit & Trump. This would be easier to achieve and I have started my representations with the IRFU. #fact

BTW all traditions suck if you analyse them too much or reject them because it doesn't feel right when tapping away on a keyboard removed from a stadium....national anthems, shaking a head of State's hand, match mascots. So too marketing stuff...#teamofus #shouldertoshoulder #carrythemhome...the 8 stance started with Foley but people are getting hung up on that/him.

There is nothing wrong with his premature death being a perpetual inspiration for Irish teams facing the Haka or equivalent rituals becase of his very young age and most of all because he symbolised Ireland's place in the rugby world - being unbowed and successful over 'superior' forces/athletes.

It also doesn't mean that, God/god/Allah/Leonard Cohen forbid that as other rugby greats pass away prematurely/naturally, they can't also be represented in this new ritual of ours - think infinity connotations of the sideways 8 are poignant here.

And there is a need to be filled, a benefit to the team in those prematch minutes when you have to line up and be psychologically abused for the sake of them being allowed use a tribal tradition in a rugby environment that allows them an edge.

In that Haka moment the ABs are powerful, dominant and we/other passive nations are ladyboys. There is a rebalancing of power to be had from us doing something that says to the ABs when they are at full Haka throttle...we respect but resist your tradition. Even better if we can do something distinctive and unique to us...that no other nation does.

It is a great number/ shape two units, forwards and backs, linked and sending a signal back to a team that is promising to murder them and their families,slowly.

BTW there is nothing in this for me other than the royalties that my lawyers ensure will accrue to me at a rate of 0.5% of all ticket sales, TV deals and commercial rights secure by #theteamofus in respect of all matches started by a Haka-Ritual.

It is OK to change your mind on this forum. I will not judge you. But if you don't surrender to my campaign within 48 hours, I will use some of my newly acquired EU funding to expose you for the rugby pygmies that you are.

Persuasively yours.

Thank you for your support.

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Re: Let's Make The Foley '8' Stance a Tradition

Postby paddyor » November 18th, 2016, 1:06 pm

Are you sure the #keepthe8 hashtag hasn't just attracted the support of some pro-lifers?
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Re: Let's Make The Foley '8' Stance a Tradition

Postby offshorerules » November 18th, 2016, 1:15 pm

Today is the 1 year anniversary of Jonah Lomu's death. Maybe we should line up in an 11 formation? #imtakingthep1ss
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Re: Let's Make The Foley '8' Stance a Tradition

Postby Peg Leg » November 18th, 2016, 2:27 pm

I've changed my mind, I no longer believe you to be a reasoned individual. I'm placing you in the batshitcrazy sector.
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