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New IRB Rules for 2017

Postby leinsterfan100 » November 18th, 2016, 11:49 pm

Proposed new law changes for next year (Inc. Lions Series) and 2017/18 Northern Hemisphere season.
http://rugbylad.com/world-rugby-set-to- ... d-up-game/
One thing that I question is the new law about not being able to kick the ball straight out of play from a penalty that has been awarded after the 80 mins are up. The new rule says that if you do this, you are required to go through with the line out first. Instead, surely you could just choose the tap and go option and then kick the ball straight out of play once you tap the ball?!
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Re: New IRB Rules for 2017

Postby Oldschoolsocks » November 19th, 2016, 12:24 am

Really?

Surely, if you're chasing a score this is an advantage to be allowed take the line out, if you're defending a lead, do as you suggested?

I don't like not having to covert a Penalty Try to get the 7
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Re: New IRB Rules for 2017

Postby TerenureJim » November 20th, 2016, 3:41 am

Hey here's the best change, just enforce the offside line properly. End of.
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Re: New IRB Rules for 2017

Postby enby » November 20th, 2016, 10:33 am

Currently a team that misses a drop goal or penalty invariably gets the ball back from the 22 drop out. How about a scrum to the defending team from the point where the drop goal was kicked or the penalty was originally awarded? I do like a long range drop goal and I suppose such a rule change would have deterred the likes of Sexton in HC Final 2009 from having a pop. On the other hand such a change would encourage more kicks for the corner on penalties
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Re: New IRB Rules for 2017

Postby Hippo » November 20th, 2016, 11:23 am

TerenureJim wrote:Hey here's the best change, just enforce the offside line properly. End of.


In a nutshell, exactly
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Re: New IRB Rules for 2017

Postby Ruckedtobits » November 20th, 2016, 3:19 pm

Forget new Laws in 2017, how about enforcement of 2016 Law Interpretations by Referees?

Pat Whelan, the former Irish Hooker and Team Manager, is IRFU rep on World Rugby. He should be inundated with complaints from Irish fans about the performance of that group of Officials last night in Aviva. We were cheated and our team were assaulted. That's how bad it was and because it's now a business as much as a sport, the culprits should be fined or penalised in a financial manner.
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Re: New IRB Rules for 2017

Postby neiliog93 » November 20th, 2016, 3:23 pm

TerenureJim wrote:Hey here's the best change, just enforce the offside line properly. End of.


+2. So many teams live offside, including the ABs (Ireland and Irish teams objectively generally do not, which is their own mistake).
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Re: New IRB Rules for 2017

Postby Oldschool » November 20th, 2016, 10:32 pm

New rules/interpretations my ar $e.
Take the forward pass. If the ball travels forward then that's bad technique, simple as - duck off with the intention of the hands was for it to go backwards.
Time wasting rules good but the faster the game becomes the more concussions we'll get.
Leave the conversion rules alone.
Every so often when the pressure is on even the simplest of kicks get missed.
The SH wants to make the game more entertaining no matter the cost. They could learn how to tackle properly for starters.
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Re: New IRB Rules for 2017

Postby Oldschool » November 21st, 2016, 12:35 pm

One way of cleaning up the game would be to.
A. Award an additional 20ms from the point where a YC is given for violent/dangerous/recklous/dirty/foul play
OR
B. Award three points against the team given the YC ir award a peno in front of the posts no matter where the "crime" has been committed
OR
Something along the above lines
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Re: New IRB Rules for 2017

Postby Dexter » November 21st, 2016, 1:39 pm

TerenureJim wrote:Hey here's the best change, just enforce the offside line properly. End of.

Plus one million, as they say
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Re: New IRB Rules for 2017

Postby Fireworks » November 21st, 2016, 2:00 pm

To echo some of the +1 etc I think that they should try enforcing the current rules. Offside to begin with. On the tackle I think that if some of what we saw in that game continues they may need to look at reducing the legal tackle height. From the armpits up or maybe even lower would improve the situation considerably. Also it might reduce the impact of some of the monsters in the game as it requires skill to tackle properly.
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Re: New IRB Rules for 2017

Postby Lar » November 21st, 2016, 3:49 pm

Fireworks wrote:To echo some of the +1 etc I think that they should try enforcing the current rules. Offside to begin with. On the tackle I think that if some of what we saw in that game continues they may need to look at reducing the legal tackle height. From the armpits up or maybe even lower would improve the situation considerably. Also it might reduce the impact of some of the monsters in the game as it requires skill to tackle properly.


I am very much in favour of this also.
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Re: New IRB Rules for 2017

Postby ChrisUppy » November 22nd, 2016, 11:11 am

Problem with the offside law is that it's just so hard for a ref to see it, especially as he needs to watch all the carry on around the breakdown at the same time.

I would propose making the ARs solely responsible for the policing of the offside line. Each AR would be responsible for watching the line from wherever the ruck is position to their touchline. They do little else during open play anyway, and I know that they should already sort of be doing this, but making it clearer would empower them to make calls easier without seeming to constantly be overruling the ref, and would allow the ref concentrate on issues around the contact area.

The sharing of responsibility that has been introduced by the TMO and AR thing has lead to some handy hiding places for officials.
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Re: New IRB Rules for 2017

Postby kermischocolate » November 24th, 2016, 2:20 pm

neiliog93 wrote:
TerenureJim wrote:Hey here's the best change, just enforce the offside line properly. End of.


+2. So many teams live offside, including the ABs (Ireland and Irish teams objectively generally do not, which is their own mistake).


Now that's just down right ridiculous!

All teams constantly live offside until they get caught.
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Re: New IRB Rules for 2017

Postby Peg Leg » November 24th, 2016, 2:46 pm

ChrisUppy wrote:Problem with the offside law is that it's just so hard for a ref to see it, especially as he needs to watch all the carry on around the breakdown at the same time.

I would propose making the ARs solely responsible for the policing of the offside line. Each AR would be responsible for watching the line from wherever the ruck is position to their touchline. They do little else during open play anyway, and I know that they should already sort of be doing this, but making it clearer would empower them to make calls easier without seeming to constantly be overruling the ref, and would allow the ref concentrate on issues around the contact area.

The sharing of responsibility that has been introduced by the TMO and AR thing has lead to some handy hiding places for officials.

I think this is a great idea, suggested something similar last year.
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Re: New IRB Rules for 2017

Postby Peg Leg » November 24th, 2016, 2:48 pm

kermischocolate wrote:
neiliog93 wrote:
TerenureJim wrote:Hey here's the best change, just enforce the offside line properly. End of.


+2. So many teams live offside, including the ABs (Ireland and Irish teams objectively generally do not, which is their own mistake).


Now that's just down right ridiculous!

All teams constantly live offside until they get caught.

Ah we're great Kerm, good honest folk just here to have a bit of fun. But no seriously, you're bang on, that said we are good at reigning it in when defending our own line.
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