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Re: Ireland Under 20 2017

Postby hugonaut » March 16th, 2017, 10:11 pm

goreyguy wrote:shite comparison.


Here is a statistical analysis of Zebo's season in attack for Munster, Ireland in the 2017 Six Nations, and Ireland in the 2016-17 season – usual sources, ESPN Scrum.com and Munster Rugby.

Zebo's averages for Munster 2016-17 [10 games]
Tries/Assists: 6/1
Metres Run: 39m [39.2m]
Possessions: 16
Kicks: 3
Passes: 4 [3.5]
Runs: 9 [8.5]
Clean Breaks: 1 [0.7]
Defenders Beaten: 2 [1.5]
Offloads: 0 [0.2]

Zebo's averages for Ireland 2017 Six Nations [4 games]
Tries/Assists: 0/2
Metres Run: 73m [73.25m]
Possessions: 23
Kicks: 4 [3.75]
Passes: 6 [5.5]
Runs: 13 [13.25]
Clean Breaks: 2
Defenders Beaten: 2.5
Offloads: 0

Zebo's averages for Ireland 2016-17 Season [7 games]
Tries/Assists: 1/3
Metres Run: 55m [55.3m]
Possessions: 20
Kicks: 3 [3.4]
Passes: 5 [5.0]
Runs: 12 [11.6]
Clean Breaks: 2 [1.7]
Defenders Beaten: 2 [2.0]
Offloads: 2 [0.3]

On average, Zebo gets more ball, passes more, runs more, makes more breaks and beats more defenders for Ireland than he does for Munster. The offloading difference is negligible, but still in favour for his Irish games - 2 in 7 games for Ireland, 2 in 10 games for Munster. The only thing he doesn't do is score more tries. He's playing against better defenses, which probably goes a long way to explaining that. Ireland have averaged 3 tries/game over those 7 games though.

Zebo's not playing badly at all, in any case. Most of Ireland's backs are playing decent enough stuff, including the much criticised Rob Kearney, in my opinion. It's just that nobody [bar Sexton and Murray against France] has played at or near the very top of their game thus far in any of the three tight games; they were all excellent against Italy though.
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Re: Ireland Under 20 2017

Postby Ruckedtobits » March 17th, 2017, 12:38 am

Well it's certainly clear from the way they performed against Wales that the U.20 coaching staff presume that they will get all their defensive coaching when they join the Senior Squad.
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Re: Ireland Under 20 2017

Postby Stuka » March 17th, 2017, 6:44 pm

Tuned into RTE just now to watxh the U20's. All they seem to be doing is talking about the f%~king womens game later.

Im getting a pain in the hole with all the recent pushing of womens Rugby by the media. No one gives a flying f%~k about the womens game. The proof of that is in the numbers attending their games. Ive tried to watch womens rugby and its bleeding dire.

I see they are talking about wanting the women to go professional too?! Are they out of their minds?! How are they going to fund themselves?
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Re: Ireland Under 20 2017

Postby Hippo » March 17th, 2017, 7:23 pm

Unworthy of comment. Another for the ignore list.
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Re: Ireland Under 20 2017

Postby Twist » March 17th, 2017, 7:35 pm

Trip 5m from the line and no yellow. Referee actually said "you have to be more careful."

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Re: Ireland Under 20 2017

Postby wixfjord » March 17th, 2017, 7:35 pm

Stuka wrote:Tuned into RTE just now to watxh the U20's. All they seem to be doing is talking about the f%~king womens game later.

Im getting a pain in the hole with all the recent pushing of womens Rugby by the media. No one gives a flying f%~k about the womens game. The proof of that is in the numbers attending their games. Ive tried to watch womens rugby and its bleeding dire.

I see they are talking about wanting the women to go professional too?! Are they out of their minds?! How are they going to fund themselves?



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Re: Ireland Under 20 2017

Postby Stuka » March 17th, 2017, 7:36 pm

Hippo wrote:Unworthy of comment. Another for the ignore list.



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Re: Ireland Under 20 2017

Postby Stuka » March 17th, 2017, 7:37 pm

wixfjord wrote:
Stuka wrote:Tuned into RTE just now to watxh the U20's. All they seem to be doing is talking about the f%~king womens game later.

Im getting a pain in the hole with all the recent pushing of womens Rugby by the media. No one gives a flying f%~k about the womens game. The proof of that is in the numbers attending their games. Ive tried to watch womens rugby and its bleeding dire.

I see they are talking about wanting the women to go professional too?! Are they out of their minds?! How are they going to fund themselves?



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Re: Ireland Under 20 2017

Postby Oldschool » March 17th, 2017, 7:37 pm

Twist wrote:Trip 5m from the line and no yellow. Referee actually said "you have to be more careful."

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Should have taken the points.
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Re: Ireland Under 20 2017

Postby Twist » March 17th, 2017, 7:40 pm

Oldschool wrote:
Twist wrote:Trip 5m from the line and no yellow. Referee actually said "you have to be more careful."

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Should have taken the points.


I don't see the relevance


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Re: Ireland Under 20 2017

Postby Oldschool » March 17th, 2017, 7:41 pm

Hippo wrote:Unworthy of comment. Another for the ignore list.

Surely not - show the post to the girls, better than any motivational speech.
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Re: Ireland Under 20 2017

Postby Oldschool » March 17th, 2017, 7:45 pm

Twist wrote:
Oldschool wrote:
Twist wrote:Trip 5m from the line and no yellow. Referee actually said "you have to be more careful."

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Should have taken the points.


I don't see the relevance


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We had a penalty in front of posts, called a scrum and they have the advantage in the scrum.
That doesn't compute for me.
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Re: Ireland Under 20 2017

Postby Ruckedtobits » March 17th, 2017, 7:50 pm

Lots of skill and guts from the Irish but we need to think as well.
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Re: Ireland Under 20 2017

Postby Twist » March 17th, 2017, 7:50 pm

Oldschool wrote:
Twist wrote:
Oldschool wrote:[quote="Twist"]Trip 5m from the line and no yellow. Referee actually said "you have to be more careful."

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Should have taken the points.


I don't see the relevance


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We had a penalty in front of posts, called a scrum and they have the advantage in the scrum.
That doesn't compute for me.[/quote]

Fine, but I was talking about the referee bottling the call. It's a separate issue


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Re: Ireland Under 20 2017

Postby Hippo » March 17th, 2017, 8:02 pm

Oldschool wrote:
Hippo wrote:Unworthy of comment. Another for the ignore list.

Surely not - show the post to the girls, better than any motivational speech.


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Re: Ireland Under 20 2017

Postby Cor. Ind. » March 17th, 2017, 8:07 pm

Significant size difference. Orcs look so much more muscular. Blowing us away at the breakdown. Lamour has been fantastic. Some lovely interplay between him and Nash.
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Re: Ireland Under 20 2017

Postby wixfjord » March 17th, 2017, 8:13 pm

Larmour is utter class. Looks ready for a senior cap already.
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Re: Ireland Under 20 2017

Postby Cor. Ind. » March 17th, 2017, 8:20 pm

Coombes has done really well since he has come on. Powerful runner and good hands.
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Re: Ireland Under 20 2017

Postby wixfjord » March 17th, 2017, 8:30 pm

Irish 9 really not helping his pack at scrum. Slow feed and should be taking ball a lot quicker.
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Re: Ireland Under 20 2017

Postby Cor. Ind. » March 17th, 2017, 8:34 pm

Great try from Coombes - Cousin of Gary & Paul... Skib has the best clubhouse in ireland. Stunning!
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