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goreyguy wrote:John Foley is out due to injury and Tom De Jongh has been called up.

If McPhillips & Dean are injured and Johnston staying with Munster, Alan Tynan may get called up.
I was told other injury doubts included Gallagher, Coombes x 2 and Lyttle.
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Looks like Nash won't be playing against Scotland, training with Munster today ahead of their game against Edinburgh
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Does anyone know if the 6N games will be shown by RTE? I think they have always shown the home and away games live in the past.
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Yeah the 1st game is anyway
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Cillian Gallagher likely to start at 6. Doris at 8 and Boyle at 7 apparently.....2 players out of position but certainly a big back row. Oisin Dowling and Wycherley @ 2nd row.
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erskinechilders wrote:Looks like Nash won't be playing against Scotland, training with Munster today ahead of their game against Edinburgh
Big loss if he is not available has been in great form all season
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El Diablo wrote:Does anyone know if the 6N games will be shown by RTE? I think they have always shown the home and away games live in the past.
http://www.rte.ie/entertainment/listing ... n/#!fjjc6z
8.30 KO RTE 2. Preceded live by the womens international. Both being played in Broadwood Stadium, Cumbernauld...back to back.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadwood_Stadium
Hopefully an entertaining start to a big weekend of rugby.
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Ireland u20 team:

Ireland u20 team:

1. Joey Conway(Munster/UL Bohs)
2. Tadgh McElroy(Leinster/Lansdowne)
3. Peter Cooper(Ulster/Belfast Harlequins)
4. Fineen Whycherly(Munster/Young Munster)
5. Oisin Dowling(Leinster/Lansdowne)
6. Cillian Gallagher(Connacht/Corinthians)
7. Paul Boyle(Leinster/Lansdowne)
8. Caelan Doris(Leinster/St. Marys)
9. Jonny Stewart(Ulster/Queens)
10. Johnny McPhillips(Ulster/Ballynahinch)
11. Colm Hogan(Munster/DUFC)
12. Ciaran Frawley(Leinster/UCD)
13. Gavin Mullin(Leinster/UCD)
14. Jordan Larmour(Leinster/St. Marys)
15. Jack Kelly(Leinster/DUFC)
16. Adam Moloney(Munster/Shannon)
17. Rory Mulvihill(Leinster/UCD)
18. Charlie Connolly(Leinster/DUFC)
19. Jack Regan(Leinster/UCD)
20. Marcus Rea(Ulster/Queens)
21. Jack Lyons(Munster/Young Munster)
22. Conor Fitzgerald(Munster/Shannon)
23. Tommy O'Brien(Leinster/UCD)
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Obviously pleasing from a Leinster point of view that selection. Particularly in light of centres, right wing and fullback with Tommy O'Brien in the 23. Nice to see the academy churning out back 5 players.
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goreyguy wrote:Ireland u20 team:

Ireland u20 team:

1. Joey Conway(Munster/UL Bohs)
2. Tadgh McElroy(Leinster/Lansdowne)
3. Peter Cooper(Ulster/Belfast Harlequins)
4. Fineen Whycherly(Munster/Young Munster)
5. Oisin Dowling(Leinster/Lansdowne)
6. Cillian Gallagher(Connacht/Corinthians)
7. Paul Boyle(Leinster/Lansdowne)
8. Caelan Doris(Leinster/St. Marys)
9. Jonny Stewart(Ulster/Queens)
10. Johnny McPhillips(Ulster/Ballynahinch)
11. Colm Hogan(Munster/DUFC)
12. Ciaran Frawley(Leinster/UCD)
13. Gavin Mullin(Leinster/UCD)
14. Jordan Larmour(Leinster/St. Marys)
15. Jack Kelly(Leinster/DUFC)
16. Adam Moloney(Munster/Shannon)
17. Rory Mulvihill(Leinster/UCD)
18. Charlie Connolly(Leinster/DUFC)
19. Jack Regan(Leinster/UCD)
20. Marcus Rea(Ulster/Queens)
21. Jack Lyons(Munster/Young Munster)
22. Conor Fitzgerald(Munster/Shannon)
23. Tommy O'Brien(Leinster/UCD)
Frawley at 12 is a huge concern for me especially defensively from what I saw in trial matches he was extremely poor. Front row bench is also a concern and will be trouble for us if they get alot of game time as a unit. Would have O'Brien ahead of Frawley at 12
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Agreed on O'Brien over Frawley at 12.
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goreyguy wrote:Agreed on O'Brien over Frawley at 12.
I'm not sure how much more Tommy was expected to have done in order to claim a place on the team. Scoring for fun in the AIL and did extremely well in the trial matches I saw. He ripped the irish u20 defense apart playing for the Leinster selection in Donnybrook and then did a great job down in Thomand Pk against a more experienced Munster selection. Perhaps it is a tactical thing to have 2 first receivers but then again I have seen Tommy play outhalf a few times and he can do a job there as well. I would imagine it will fire him up and whenever he does get his chance he will be like a man possessed.
Gavin Mullin has done really well to get back fit so quickly and it allows Kelly play his best position. Exciting backline, big pack, scrumhalf is electric. The only concern would be lack of experience at this level. Will their discipline hold up under pressure? Looking forward to seeing how they go.
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El Diablo wrote:
goreyguy wrote:Agreed on O'Brien over Frawley at 12.
I'm not sure how much more Tommy was expected to have done in order to claim a place on the team. Scoring for fun in the AIL and did extremely well in the trial matches I saw. He ripped the irish u20 defense apart playing for the Leinster selection in Donnybrook and then did a great job down in Thomand Pk against a more experienced Munster selection. Perhaps it is a tactical thing to have 2 first receivers but then again I have seen Tommy play outhalf a few times and he can do a job there as well. I would imagine it will fire him up and whenever he does get his chance he will be like a man possessed.
Gavin Mullin has done really well to get back fit so quickly and it allows Kelly play his best position. Exciting backline, big pack, scrumhalf is electric. The only concern would be lack of experience at this level. Will their discipline hold up under pressure? Looking forward to seeing how they go.
McPhillips is not great either, at least based on what i've seen to date.

How will the scrum hold up is a big question, along with the breakdown.

O'Brien covers wing and both centre positions so maybe they want him to do that from the bench.

No idea why they named Kelleher in squad when he has been injured all season and is unavailable for this game.
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Maybe Frawley is there to help out McPhillips. Frawley might be better at getting the backline moving while McPhillips might be a better kicker.

There'll be plenty of opportunities for the likes of Tommy O'Brien throughout the season and in his case, next season.
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dropkick wrote:Maybe Frawley is there to help out McPhillips. Frawley might be better at getting the backline moving while McPhillips might be a better kicker.
I really hope that isn't the thought process they are following.
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dropkick wrote:Maybe Frawley is there to help out McPhillips. Frawley might be better at getting the backline moving while McPhillips might be a better kicker.

There'll be plenty of opportunities for the likes of Tommy O'Brien throughout the season and in his case, next season.

Interesting tactics.
People's view of McPhilops may be clouded by what he did as an U19 at this level last season. He has that experience at this level.
What you say might be right but I guess they feel McPhillips is the best outhalf. Looking forward to seeing the Munster half backs, both replacements and both sons of buddy's of mine, do their stuff.
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dropkick wrote:Maybe Frawley is there to help out McPhillips. Frawley might be better at getting the backline moving while McPhillips might be a better kicker.

There'll be plenty of opportunities for the likes of Tommy O'Brien throughout the season and in his case, next season.

Interesting tactics.
People's view of McPhilops may be clouded by what he did as an U19 at this level last season. He has that experience at this level.
What you say might be right but I guess they feel McPhillips is the best outhalf. Looking forward to seeing the Munster half backs, both replacements and both sons of buddy's of mine, do their stuff.
McPhillips is one of two players with any experience of this level so that may be another factor at play.
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I alluded to that fact. The most experienced outhalf in the squad and deserving of his place.
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I'll be interested to see how everyone goes, hope everyone performs well.
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goreyguy wrote:I'll be interested to see how everyone goes, hope everyone performs well.
Yeah looking forward to it, hope they go well always good to get off to a winning start
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