Ireland v France Sat 25th Feb 2017 4.50pm

[Golf Man]

While Payne used to be the best full back in Ireland (IMHO) he is no longer even the best full back in Ulster...

That said, I'd personally pick him ahead of Rob Kearney, leaving Zebo on the wings with Earls. Unfortunately it is at least as likely that Schmidt will put him in place of Ringrose rather than Kearney. Because Ringrose has made to my mind more serious mistakes than Kearney. He may have more potential etc. but there is a 6N on.

But given that Payne only had 20 minutes at the weekend we don't know how close to up to speed he is/will be.

I reckon he will leave Ringrose there - he referenced him personally, Henshaw is quoted about the task ahead for himself and Ringrose v Wales. I don't think he'drop Ringrose. And if Kearney is fit I don't think he'll drop him either. If Kearney is out he can either parachute Payne straight in at or on the bench though to cover 12/13/15

[MunsterSugar]

"Guys like Dave'', an international winger with a couple of European trophies, a couple of Pro12s and a 6N championship in his arse pocket in his mid-20s - is that what you mean?

More 1 of worst strike rates in Europe for top winger and not a speedster.
Just because you've a medal doesn't make you a great player. I'm not saying he is terrible but if you consider him an international class winger then I'd just disagreeand argue no more. And caps doesn't make you an international class winger. If so Earls is an international 13 etc


Sent from my SM-G925F using Tapatalk

The best coach ever to work in Ireland agrees with me. I'm okay with that.

Does he? Guess we will see on that. And name 1 big game he's proven his class at that level or more so why nobody outside Leinster sees him as top 3 winger for Leinster never mind Ireland.

As I said a winger is judged on tries and setting up play. Records show different to your suggestion and lets not forget when all wingers are available Schmidt doesn't always select Kearney


Sent from my SM-G925F using Tapatalk

[Dave Cahill]

Does he? Guess we will see on that. And name 1 big game he's proven his class at that level or more so why nobody outside Leinster sees him as top 3 winger for Leinster never mind Ireland.

As I said a winger is judged on tries and setting up play. Records show different to your suggestion and lets not forget when all wingers are available Schmidt doesn't always select Kearney


Sent from my SM-G925F using Tapatalk

I'm as concerned with what anybody outside Leinster thinks as Joe is with a wingers try scoring stats. Not one iota.

[MunsterSugar]

Does he? Guess we will see on that. And name 1 big game he's proven his class at that level or more so why nobody outside Leinster sees him as top 3 winger for Leinster never mind Ireland.

As I said a winger is judged on tries and setting up play. Records show different to your suggestion and lets not forget when all wingers are available Schmidt doesn't always select Kearney


Sent from my SM-G925F using Tapatalk

I'm as concerned with what anybody outside Leinster thinks as Joe is with a wingers try scoring stats. Not one iota.

Well then I think you'll see Joe knows that's the reason he has no slam and is trying to expand game. I'd argue if you'd a winger who can outsprint a 2nd row he has a Slam. And why all his big wins came with pace on wings.

And why Kearney is well down picking order.

You may not give 1 iota but I do as many Irish fans do.

Sent from my SM-G925F using Tapatalk

[Dave Cahill]

Yeah, Joe is wracked by his history of failure alright.

[MunsterSugar]

Yeah, Joe is wracked by his history of failure alright.

Again nobody said Joe was failure. But facts are in his own words - he's failed at a RWC and it's obvious he wants a Grand Slam.

Sent from my SM-G925F using Tapatalk

[Slowcentre]

Does he? Guess we will see on that. And name 1 big game he's proven his class at that level or more so why nobody outside Leinster sees him as top 3 winger for Leinster never mind Ireland.

As I said a winger is judged on tries and setting up play. Records show different to your suggestion and lets not forget when all wingers are available Schmidt doesn't always select Kearney


Sent from my SM-G925F using Tapatalk

I'm as concerned with what anybody outside Leinster thinks as Joe is with a wingers try scoring stats. Not one iota.

Well then I think you'll see Joe knows that's the reason he has no slam and is trying to expand game. I'd argue if you'd a winger who can outsprint a 2nd row he has a Slam. And why all his big wins came with pace on wings.

And why Kearney is well down picking order.

You may not give 1 iota but I do as many Irish fans do.

Sent from my SM-G925F using Tapatalk

I've seen Earls out sprinted by a 2nd row.Do you think he's too slow too?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[CiaranIrl]

I'm as concerned with what anybody outside Leinster thinks as Joe is with a wingers try scoring stats. Not one iota.

Well then I think you'll see Joe knows that's the reason he has no slam and is trying to expand game. I'd argue if you'd a winger who can outsprint a 2nd row he has a Slam. And why all his big wins came with pace on wings.

And why Kearney is well down picking order.

You may not give 1 iota but I do as many Irish fans do.

Sent from my SM-G925F using Tapatalk

I've seen Earls out sprinted by a 2nd row.Do you think he's too slow too?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

No, no, no!

Munster = good. Leinster = bad.

Try to keep up. We're getting an education in mediocrity.

[MunsterSugar]

I'm as concerned with what anybody outside Leinster thinks as Joe is with a wingers try scoring stats. Not one iota.

Well then I think you'll see Joe knows that's the reason he has no slam and is trying to expand game. I'd argue if you'd a winger who can outsprint a 2nd row he has a Slam. And why all his big wins came with pace on wings.

And why Kearney is well down picking order.

You may not give 1 iota but I do as many Irish fans do.

Sent from my SM-G925F using Tapatalk

I've seen Earls out sprinted by a 2nd row.Do you think he's too slow too?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Please share when?

Sent from my SM-G925F using Tapatalk

[MunsterSugar]

I'm as concerned with what anybody outside Leinster thinks as Joe is with a wingers try scoring stats. Not one iota.

Well then I think you'll see Joe knows that's the reason he has no slam and is trying to expand game. I'd argue if you'd a winger who can outsprint a 2nd row he has a Slam. And why all his big wins came with pace on wings.

And why Kearney is well down picking order.

You may not give 1 iota but I do as many Irish fans do.

Sent from my SM-G925F using Tapatalk

I've seen Earls out sprinted by a 2nd row.Do you think he's too slow too?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Please share when. I've never seen so.at least would love to check it. Can't say I remember it in all my time watching him. But again happily will eat my words on viewing

Sent from my SM-G925F using Tapatalk

[MunsterSugar]

As I will say I only comment on what I see so haven't seen Earls but something like a 2nd row out sprinting a winger is rare so will eats my words on viewing.

Sent from my SM-G925F using Tapatalk

[Dave Cahill]

Could you switch off your Tapatalk signature if it's not too much trouble please? Profile > Settings > Signature will do it

[paddyor]

Well then I think you'll see Joe knows that's the reason he has no slam and is trying to expand game. I'd argue if you'd a winger who can outsprint a 2nd row he has a Slam. And why all his big wins came with pace on wings.

And why Kearney is well down picking order.

You may not give 1 iota but I do as many Irish fans do.

Sent from my SM-G925F using Tapatalk

A tap talk doesn't constitute "out-sprinting" someone. And FYI he still had Brown and the cover defense to beat if he avoided the tap tackle. It was great play from Launchbury.

IMO the handling errors from Sexton BOD and Healy were what cost us that game. Think Best missed 5 tackles that game too.

[paddyor]

As I will say I only comment on what I see so haven't seen Earls but something like a 2nd row out sprinting a winger is rare so will eats my words on viewing.

Sent from my SM-G925F using Tapatalk

Anthony Horgan vs New Zealand? IIRC the Kiwi commentator laughed.

[MunsterSugar]

As I will say I only comment on what I see so haven't seen Earls but something like a 2nd row out sprinting a winger is rare so will eats my words on viewing.

Sent from my SM-G925F using Tapatalk

Anthony Horgan vs New Zealand? IIRC the Kiwi commentator laughed.

And where did anyone say Horgan was top winger??

Sent from my SM-G925F using Tapatalk

[MunsterSugar]

Could you switch off your Tapatalk signature if it's not too much trouble please? Profile > Settings > Signature will do it

So guess noone can give that example

Sent from my SM-G925F using Tapatalk

[MunsterSugar]

Well then I think you'll see Joe knows that's the reason he has no slam and is trying to expand game. I'd argue if you'd a winger who can outsprint a 2nd row he has a Slam. And why all his big wins came with pace on wings.

And why Kearney is well down picking order.

You may not give 1 iota but I do as many Irish fans do.

Sent from my SM-G925F using Tapatalk

A tap talk doesn't constitute "out-sprinting" someone. And FYI he still had Brown and the cover defense to beat if he avoided the tap tackle. It was great play from Launchbury.

IMO the handling errors from Sexton BOD and Healy were what cost us that game. Think Best missed 5 tackles that game too.

So in other words. No ye can't give example and will try put other errors up as case too. Ok cheers just thought ye could actually back up. Obviously not

Sent from my SM-G925F using Tapatalk

[paddyor]

Well then I think you'll see Joe knows that's the reason he has no slam and is trying to expand game. I'd argue if you'd a winger who can outsprint a 2nd row he has a Slam. And why all his big wins came with pace on wings.

And why Kearney is well down picking order.

You may not give 1 iota but I do as many Irish fans do.

Sent from my SM-G925F using Tapatalk

A tap talk doesn't constitute "out-sprinting" someone. And FYI he still had Brown and the cover defense to beat if he avoided the tap tackle. It was great play from Launchbury.

IMO the handling errors from Sexton BOD and Healy were what cost us that game. Think Best missed 5 tackles that game too.

So in other words. No ye can't give example and will try put other errors up as case too. Ok cheers just thought ye could actually back up. Obviously not

Sent from my SM-G925F using Tapatalk

You're the one with the duff example. Dave kearney wasn't outsprinted by a lock.

[MunsterSugar]

A tap talk doesn't constitute "out-sprinting" someone. And FYI he still had Brown and the cover defense to beat if he avoided the tap tackle. It was great play from Launchbury.

IMO the handling errors from Sexton BOD and Healy were what cost us that game. Think Best missed 5 tackles that game too.

So in other words. No ye can't give example and will try put other errors up as case too. Ok cheers just thought ye could actually back up. Obviously not

Sent from my SM-G925F using Tapatalk

You're the one with the duff example. Dave kearney wasn't outsprinted by a lock.

So I will put it this way. I say I think had that try been scored we win a Slam. A genuine comment alot think. Also a genuine opportunity many think a fast winger would've scored.

Then the replies were
"Keith Earls was caught"

I asked when?

Replies were about Anthony Horgan, Others Faults and excuses. To a simple question.

And yes he was outsptinted the proof is there. Believe what you want. Pity you can't answer facts but just dish back insults.

And I've no doubt reply will be another sidestep.

Sent from my SM-G925F using Tapatalk

[Peg Leg]

Board is gone t'shite. The tit for tat stuff is painful.