Wales v Ireland Fri 10th March 8 05pm

Forum for the discussion of all International Rugby

Moderator: moderators

Wales v Ireland Fri 10th March 8 05pm

Postby simonokeeffe » February 26th, 2017, 3:50 pm

Feeling a bit better about this now that the Welsh seem in disarray, AWJ turned on his kickers a bit post match over that messy penalty decision they bungled
We'll want the roof open and theyll complain about that again which is starting to feel like getting the excuses in first
Doubt Howley will be brave enough to change/move his back 3 around
More pressure/criticism over taking Moriarty off
Very few changes Wales can let alone will make

Still think it will be a bit of a slugfest but we'll come out on top
When he spreads his legs like that youd need dynamite or the Highland Light Infantry to shift him.
User avatar
simonokeeffe
Leo Cullen
 
Posts: 15602
Joined: July 21st, 2011, 3:04 am
Location: Dublin

Re: Wales v Ireland Fri 10th March 8 05pm

Postby suisse » February 26th, 2017, 3:58 pm

Only watched their game from a distance at a pub yesterday in Ballsbridge with little sound. I thought Wales looked pretty good in the opening period and seemed to be strangling the game out of Scotland. I noticed Finn Russell got MOTM but he made 3 elementary mistakes in about 5 mins just handing the ball back to the Welsh. I've no idea what happened in their changing room at the break. They were rubbish thereafter.
User avatar
suisse
Rob Kearney
 
Posts: 4618
Joined: April 2nd, 2007, 12:23 am
Location: Seoul, South Korea

Re: Wales v Ireland Fri 10th March 8 05pm

Postby wixfjord » February 26th, 2017, 4:36 pm

My biggest concern is Tipuric and Warburton. SOB is struggling for form and our backrow has looked a bit unbalanced against Scot and yesterday.

Should be a belter of an atmosphere.
wixfjord
Girvan Dempsey
 
Posts: 2695
Joined: April 13th, 2009, 1:00 pm

Re: Wales v Ireland Fri 10th March 8 05pm

Postby Oldschool » February 26th, 2017, 7:41 pm

wixfjord wrote:My biggest concern is Tipuric and Warburton. SOB is struggling for form and our backrow has looked a bit unbalanced against Scot and yesterday.

Should be a belter of an atmosphere.

Can SOB play like a real 7 anymore, I doubt it and against Wales we'll need one, otherwise Tipuric and Warburton will have a field day. As Scotland proved stop them and Wales are in trouble.
TOD or Henry are the only realistic options for 7.
Mirror, Mirror on the Wall who's the greatest player of them all? It is Drico your majesty.
User avatar
Oldschool
Devin Toner
 
Posts: 9800
Joined: March 27th, 2008, 2:10 pm

Re: Wales v Ireland Fri 10th March 8 05pm

Postby Dave Cahill » February 26th, 2017, 7:53 pm

wixfjord wrote:My biggest concern is Tipuric and Warburton. SOB is struggling for form and our backrow has looked a bit unbalanced against Scot and yesterday.

Should be a belter of an atmosphere.


On the other hand, the absence of a proper blindside has unbalanced the west english back row
I have Bumbleflex
User avatar
Dave Cahill
Gordon D'Arcy
 
Posts: 20269
Joined: January 24th, 2006, 4:32 pm
Location: None of your damn business

Re: Wales v Ireland Fri 10th March 8 05pm

Postby munster#1 » February 26th, 2017, 7:58 pm

The 6 nations is Ireland's for the taking.
Win the next 2 games, and you would have to think that the championship is ours.
To do that we will have to put in a performance in Cardiff.
Wales are hurting at the moment, and will be targeting Ireland as a way of redeeming themselves.

The Welsh backrow are a much better breakdown backrow, and imo we need a 7 to counter Wales who will have 2 7s.
Can SOB do this,p I am not 100 percent convinced. We will need to look at alternatives within the expected starting 15.

Ireland have in the past turned to best and pom to counter ruck to great success. But right now they are not doing that, and are unlikely to do so.

Win the breakdown and we will beat Wales. We can match them everywhere else. Especially if Sexton can marshal the backline.

Joe has a lot of work to do, but it is possible.
User avatar
munster#1
Malcolm O'Kelly
 
Posts: 3927
Joined: June 18th, 2009, 3:47 pm

Re: Wales v Ireland Fri 10th March 8 05pm

Postby LeRouxIsPHat » February 26th, 2017, 8:54 pm

Worried about this one. Wales defend with a kind of arrow shape and our attacking shape against Scotland and France would destroy us if its used again.

Need to see more runners off Murray and inside of Sexton, as well as Murray breaking more. We need to hammer away close to the ruck, not keep throwing the ball into midfield like we have been doing.
User avatar
LeRouxIsPHat
Shane Horgan
 
Posts: 10008
Joined: January 22nd, 2009, 8:49 pm

Re: Wales v Ireland Fri 10th March 8 05pm

Postby johng » February 26th, 2017, 9:23 pm

munster#1 wrote:The 6 nations is Ireland's for the taking.
Win the next 2 games, and you would have to think that the championship is ours.
wow that's some nonsence.

England could stagger to an unconvincing bonus point win v Scotland and even if we beat Wales we could be 4 points behind them going into the last game.

Or Scotland could do the unthinkable and then they have a tripple crown and a home game v Italy to round out the tournament.

Leaving us a pi$sed off England.
User avatar
johng
Leo Cullen
 
Posts: 16548
Joined: March 23rd, 2009, 11:37 pm
Location: Behind You!!

Re: Wales v Ireland Fri 10th March 8 05pm

Postby munster#1 » February 26th, 2017, 9:45 pm

johng wrote:
munster#1 wrote:The 6 nations is Ireland's for the taking.
Win the next 2 games, and you would have to think that the championship is ours.
wow that's some nonsence.

England could stagger to an unconvincing bonus point win v Scotland and even if we beat Wales we could be 4 points behind them going into the last game.

Or Scotland could do the unthinkable and then they have a tripple crown and a home game v Italy to round out the tournament.

Leaving us a pi$sed off England.

Hardly nonsense.
Given how the championship is going, and our superior points difference, if we win the last 2 games there is a good likelihood that we will win the championship.

If we win our last 2 games England will have to get a BP in both of their remaining games a TBP win against Scotland (which will be very difficult, but not impossible) and a LPB against us.
Or get a TBP against Scotland with a massive points difference.

Maybe I am slightly optimistic, but you are being massively pessimistic.
User avatar
munster#1
Malcolm O'Kelly
 
Posts: 3927
Joined: June 18th, 2009, 3:47 pm

Re: Wales v Ireland Fri 10th March 8 05pm

Postby johng » February 26th, 2017, 9:47 pm

Ok. I'll swap you "nonsence" with "there for the taking" and we'll call it quits
User avatar
johng
Leo Cullen
 
Posts: 16548
Joined: March 23rd, 2009, 11:37 pm
Location: Behind You!!

Re: Wales v Ireland Fri 10th March 8 05pm

Postby suisse » February 26th, 2017, 9:56 pm

Really enjoying ROG's analysis. He seems to be getting better every day. I appreciate his honesty the most, and the way he corrected himself about Wales - "They're a very good team....no, sorry, they're a good team..." but he didn't mean that in a demeaning way, at all. He's light-years ahead of another celebrated former Munster player of the same team who is prominent in all forms of media, Alan 'Hands' Quinlan.

Someone in the Welsh camp will undoubtedly find a reason to be outraged by what ROG said for absolutely no reason.
User avatar
suisse
Rob Kearney
 
Posts: 4618
Joined: April 2nd, 2007, 12:23 am
Location: Seoul, South Korea

Re: Wales v Ireland Fri 10th March 8 05pm

Postby simonokeeffe » February 26th, 2017, 11:21 pm

LeRouxIsPHat wrote:Worried about this one. Wales defend with a kind of arrow shape and our attacking shape against Scotland and France would destroy us if its used again.

Need to see more runners off Murray and inside of Sexton, as well as Murray breaking more. We need to hammer away close to the ruck, not keep throwing the ball into midfield like we have been doing.


I agree, know it was raining but we need more options (and carriers passing to each other) and backline to keep its depth, part of the problem is our centres are almost too good at clearing out rucks now

its all about the clearouts v them Welsh boys; Tipuric and Moriarty have one turnover each after 3 rounds (front 5 have f all turnover/penalty won stats too) but Warburton has 5, he suffered for a while without Lydiate making the tackles for him to jackal off so we just need to target Warburton with big clearouts, and dare I say hold him in the bottom of rucks etc
When he spreads his legs like that youd need dynamite or the Highland Light Infantry to shift him.
User avatar
simonokeeffe
Leo Cullen
 
Posts: 15602
Joined: July 21st, 2011, 3:04 am
Location: Dublin

Re: Wales v Ireland Fri 10th March 8 05pm

Postby the spoofer » February 27th, 2017, 11:10 am

My biggest concern is a certain W Barnes.
User avatar
the spoofer
Girvan Dempsey
 
Posts: 2047
Joined: February 17th, 2006, 6:35 pm
Location: Leinster West

Re: Wales v Ireland Fri 10th March 8 05pm

Postby neiliog93 » February 27th, 2017, 4:19 pm

There might be a strong Wales reaction or they might be in disarray. I think we'll beat them either way, provided we play well. If Wales play well, we'll need to match our physicality AND be more clinical than against France (a tough ask against a strong Welsh defence).
"This is breathless stuff.....it's on again. Contepomi out to Hickie,D'Arcy,Hickie.......................HICKIE FOR THE CORNER! THAT IS AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
User avatar
neiliog93
Malcolm O'Kelly
 
Posts: 3051
Joined: April 12th, 2008, 11:42 am

Re: Wales v Ireland Fri 10th March 8 05pm

Postby Oldschool » February 27th, 2017, 6:38 pm

If Payne is fit and RK isn't then Joe could just as easily consider-
Henshaw at 15, Payne at 13 and Ringrose at 12.
Zebo seems to be carrying an injury so Trimble and Earls on the wing.
This selection stuff is real easy especially as Joe has 2 weeks to get everyone to refamiliarize themselves with positions they haven't played in for a while.
Mirror, Mirror on the Wall who's the greatest player of them all? It is Drico your majesty.
User avatar
Oldschool
Devin Toner
 
Posts: 9800
Joined: March 27th, 2008, 2:10 pm

Re: Wales v Ireland Fri 10th March 8 05pm

Postby LeRouxIsPHat » February 27th, 2017, 7:57 pm

The talk of McGrath in the lions thread has reminded me of something. Himself and Dev have been caught out a few times lately for both Leinster and Ireland at the side of the ruck and we really needed to tighten it up. A their best I think they're both top class fringe defenders but neither of them are at their best now and it's a problem. Admittedly there was some clever holding by France before Serrin's break on Saturday but at other times we've just been caught napping.

Webb will really be alive to it.
User avatar
LeRouxIsPHat
Shane Horgan
 
Posts: 10008
Joined: January 22nd, 2009, 8:49 pm

Re: Wales v Ireland Fri 10th March 8 05pm

Postby simonokeeffe » February 27th, 2017, 8:54 pm

the spoofer wrote:My biggest concern is a certain W Barnes.


eventually he has to get things right by us (in this fixture), am clinging to broken clock theory
When he spreads his legs like that youd need dynamite or the Highland Light Infantry to shift him.
User avatar
simonokeeffe
Leo Cullen
 
Posts: 15602
Joined: July 21st, 2011, 3:04 am
Location: Dublin

Re: Wales v Ireland Fri 10th March 8 05pm

Postby LeRouxIsPHat » February 27th, 2017, 8:59 pm

He had to pull out of Saturdays's game, maybe he's injured?
User avatar
LeRouxIsPHat
Shane Horgan
 
Posts: 10008
Joined: January 22nd, 2009, 8:49 pm

Re: Wales v Ireland Fri 10th March 8 05pm

Postby Dave Cahill » February 27th, 2017, 9:03 pm

LeRouxIsPHat wrote:He had to pull out of Saturdays's game, maybe he's injured?



It was stated that it was for family reasons.
I have Bumbleflex
User avatar
Dave Cahill
Gordon D'Arcy
 
Posts: 20269
Joined: January 24th, 2006, 4:32 pm
Location: None of your damn business

Re: Wales v Ireland Fri 10th March 8 05pm

Postby LeRouxIsPHat » February 27th, 2017, 10:01 pm

I see, thanks.
User avatar
LeRouxIsPHat
Shane Horgan
 
Posts: 10008
Joined: January 22nd, 2009, 8:49 pm

Next

Return to International Rugby

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: AhrefsBot [Bot] and 2 guests