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RWC 2019 Draw

Postby Twist » May 4th, 2017, 11:15 am

Only 6 days to the draw, thought it was time for speculation/catastrophising/wishing

Band 1

New Zealand
England
Australia
Ireland

Band 2

Scotland
France
South Africa
Wales

Band 3

Argentina
Japan
Georgia
Italy

Despite being top seeds there's potential for a really tough draw there with Argentina in Band 3.


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Re: RWC 2019 Draw

Postby Sionnach » May 4th, 2017, 12:39 pm

Is it possible to get something like Ireland, South Africa, Argentina and Tonga? That could make life tough.
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Re: RWC 2019 Draw

Postby CiaranIrl » May 4th, 2017, 1:42 pm

Sionnach wrote:Is it possible to get something like Ireland, South Africa, Argentina and Tonga? That could make life tough.


It sure is. I don't really mind too much about whichever tier 2 we get. Obviously some are preferable - Scotland, say - but the real issue is avoiding the Argies.
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Re: RWC 2019 Draw

Postby simonokeeffe » May 4th, 2017, 1:57 pm

The timing/order of he fixtures is as important as anything else

South Africa probably second weakest team in band 2 and have savage transformation targets amongst other issues

Fiji in band 4 only team in 4 or 5 to take seriously
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Re: RWC 2019 Draw

Postby Ruckedtobits » May 9th, 2017, 5:21 pm

Pool Draw tomorrow in Tokyo. Some new teams sticking their heads up in qualifiers thus far but a distance to go yet.
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Re: RWC 2019 Draw

Postby offshorerules » May 10th, 2017, 9:24 am

We got Scotland and Japan.
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Re: RWC 2019 Draw

Postby Twist » May 10th, 2017, 9:25 am

Group C

England
France
Argentina

Lawks! [FLUSHED FACE]


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Re: RWC 2019 Draw

Postby olaf the fat » May 10th, 2017, 9:31 am

Scotland and Japan, not to bad - two hard games but we should/could win both - Auz & wales get the peach of a group

England group is a bitch - try getting through that with a full hand of players.
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Re: RWC 2019 Draw

Postby Dexter » May 10th, 2017, 9:33 am

olaf the fat wrote:Scotland and Japan, not to bad - two hard games but we should/could win both - Auz & wales get the peach of a group

England group is a bitch - try getting through that with a full hand of players.

The next question is: how do the knock out games work. Is it AvB and CvD?
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Re: RWC 2019 Draw

Postby Twist » May 10th, 2017, 9:34 am

Dexter wrote:
olaf the fat wrote:Scotland and Japan, not to bad - two hard games but we should/could win both - Auz & wales get the peach of a group

England group is a bitch - try getting through that with a full hand of players.

The next question is: how do the knock out games work. Is it AvB and CvD?


Yeah, any QF against a team from B or C would be very tough. Or D.


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Re: RWC 2019 Draw

Postby Dexter » May 10th, 2017, 9:40 am

Twist wrote:
Dexter wrote:
olaf the fat wrote:Scotland and Japan, not to bad - two hard games but we should/could win both - Auz & wales get the peach of a group

England group is a bitch - try getting through that with a full hand of players.

The next question is: how do the knock out games work. Is it AvB and CvD?


Yeah, any QF against a team from B or C would be very tough. Or D.


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And maybe some would be tougher than others, if you didn't win your group... smartass!! :)
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Re: RWC 2019 Draw

Postby blockhead » May 10th, 2017, 9:44 am

For once, not a bad draw!
Altough Japan and Scotland will be thinking the exact same thing.
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Re: RWC 2019 Draw

Postby Twist » May 10th, 2017, 9:44 am

Dexter wrote:
Twist wrote:
Dexter wrote:[quote="olaf the fat"]Scotland and Japan, not to bad - two hard games but we should/could win both - Auz & wales get the peach of a group

England group is a bitch - try getting through that with a full hand of players.

The next question is: how do the knock out games work. Is it AvB and CvD?


Yeah, any QF against a team from B or C would be very tough. Or D.


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And maybe some would be tougher than others, if you didn't win your group... smartass!! :)[/quote]

I wasn't even being sarcastic for once! I was just looking at the list and it gradually dawned on me that any of NZ, SA, Eng, Fra, Arg, Wal or Aus would be happy enough to get us in the QF! We're gonna have to get through one of those


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Re: RWC 2019 Draw

Postby TrapperChamonix » May 10th, 2017, 9:48 am

Having Scotland in our group eliminates the possibility of meeting them in the 2nd round, so its not an advantage to be in same group as them. The good news is that we avoided Argentina, Samoa and Fiji. France and SA loom large in the 2nd round
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Re: RWC 2019 Draw

Postby Dexter » May 10th, 2017, 9:49 am

Twist wrote:
Dexter wrote:
Twist wrote:
Yeah, any QF against a team from B or C would be very tough. Or D.


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And maybe some would be tougher than others, if you didn't win your group... smartass!! :)


I wasn't even being sarcastic for once! I was just looking at the list and it gradually dawned on me that any of NZ, SA, Eng, Fra, Arg, Wal or Aus would be happy enough to get us in the QF! We're gonna have to get through one of those


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True enough. The "easier" QFs in the last two tournaments didn't work out so well!
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Re: RWC 2019 Draw

Postby offshorerules » May 10th, 2017, 10:03 am

Hard to see an easy quarter final out of that draw to be fair. And if there is a 'shock' like Japan/SA last time you could end up facing someone very nasty indeed. Still its about time Ireland got an easier draw.
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Re: RWC 2019 Draw

Postby matt » May 10th, 2017, 10:14 am

NZ or South Africa if we get to Quarter Final
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Re: RWC 2019 Draw

Postby johng » May 10th, 2017, 10:20 am

I seem to remember A played B and C played D last time.

Means we should be looking to top our group and avoid the kiwis. South Africa may be in a mess but not enough of one to lose to Italy..... Again
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Re: RWC 2019 Draw

Postby CiaranIrl » May 10th, 2017, 10:44 am

Yeah, its A vs B. If the groups go according to favourites winning the group, then we'll likely have South Africa in the QF followed by Aus in any potential Semi Final.

The final two teams in our group are almost certainly Romania and Tonga. It's fantastic to have a group like this. We're much more likely to get out of the group without the debilitating injury list and fatigue. Gives us every chance to win a QF for the first time, and if we do that, then anything is possible. If South Africa continue with their enforced black/white selection criteria, then they won't be the force they once were.
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Re: RWC 2019 Draw

Postby Twist » May 10th, 2017, 11:02 am

Looking at the other groups, likely QFs are England v. Wales and Australia v. Argentina/France. That'll be fun


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