Ireland u20 2017-2018
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Re: Ireland u20 2017-2018
Yeah I still reckon they can be good at the World Cup too. They did so much of the hard stuff but were undone by sloppy passes, dropped balls, or being ripped in the tackle far too easily. It was really frustrating but do think they showed enough to suggest there's talent there and that working on the set piece and restarts over the next couple of months will see them improve a lot.
Aungier great around the field again but got demolished in the scrum.
HOS still doesn't look like a proper scrumhalf to me. His passing is excellent but he seems very robotic and unable to play what's in front of him. If the plan is to get to the breakdown and pass quickly to the ten then he's great, but if someone else is at first receiever or beats him to the ball, or there are forwards looking for it then he hesitates. He doesn't seem to have a break which nullifies his excellent pass somewhat, and he also doesn't seem to fancy the physical stuff. I know he's a scrumhalf but I felt he bottled diving on a loose ball yesterday, threw a risky pass out of play instead of taking a tackle, and hesitates coming for high balls when there's a defender in his face, which is odd for a guy who played fullback. That said, I think he's gotten sharper at the breakdown over the last few games so hopefully his improvement can continue, and his passing really is top notch and I shouldn't play down how important that is as a scrumhalf.
Curtis is really good. He's such a good all rounder that I hope his size doesn't affect him too much going forward. O'Brien was excellent as well, love how he pops up everywhere in both attack and defence, always aggressive and looking to make an impact. Don't blame him too much for the yellow card last night either.
Said this early on in the tournament but Silvestre really needs to back himself more. I wonder if he'd be better sticking to the wing where he'd less decisions to make.
Aungier great around the field again but got demolished in the scrum.
HOS still doesn't look like a proper scrumhalf to me. His passing is excellent but he seems very robotic and unable to play what's in front of him. If the plan is to get to the breakdown and pass quickly to the ten then he's great, but if someone else is at first receiever or beats him to the ball, or there are forwards looking for it then he hesitates. He doesn't seem to have a break which nullifies his excellent pass somewhat, and he also doesn't seem to fancy the physical stuff. I know he's a scrumhalf but I felt he bottled diving on a loose ball yesterday, threw a risky pass out of play instead of taking a tackle, and hesitates coming for high balls when there's a defender in his face, which is odd for a guy who played fullback. That said, I think he's gotten sharper at the breakdown over the last few games so hopefully his improvement can continue, and his passing really is top notch and I shouldn't play down how important that is as a scrumhalf.
Curtis is really good. He's such a good all rounder that I hope his size doesn't affect him too much going forward. O'Brien was excellent as well, love how he pops up everywhere in both attack and defence, always aggressive and looking to make an impact. Don't blame him too much for the yellow card last night either.
Said this early on in the tournament but Silvestre really needs to back himself more. I wonder if he'd be better sticking to the wing where he'd less decisions to make.
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The main thing that stands between this team and a really good JWC is defence. We conceded a lot of tries over the course of the competition. I always say that all you really want from a u20s team is a solid four or five players every year that will make it through to the senior professional ranks, and I think this team will deliver that and more.
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- Leo Cullen
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Re: Ireland u20 2017-2018
Ireland u20 play Munster A at the weekend.
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- Leo Cullen
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Re: Ireland u20 2017-2018
reland u20 squad: https://www.worldrugby.org/u20/teams/2749
Jordan Duggan(Leinster)
James French(Munster)
Jack Aungier(Leinster)
Tom O'Toole(Ulster)
Joe Byrne(Leinster)
Diarmaid Barron(Munster)
Alex Clarke(Ulster)
Jack Dunne(Leinster)
Matthew Dalton(Ulster)
Cormac Daly(Leinster)
Charlie Ryan(Leinster) - u19
Caelan Doris(Leinster)
Jack O'Sullivan(Munster)
Aaron Hall(Ulster)
Matthew Agnew(Ulster)
Joe Dunleavy(Ulster)
Jonny Stewart(Ulster)
Hugh O'Sullivan(Leinster)
Harry Byrne(Leinster) - u19
Conor Dean(Leinster)
Angus Curtis(Ulster)
James Hume(Ulster)
Sean O'Brien(Leinster)
Michael Silvester(Leinster)
Tommy O'Brien(Leinster)
Peter Sullivan(Leinster)
Dan Hurley(Munster)
James McCarthy(Munster) - u19
Jordan Duggan(Leinster)
James French(Munster)
Jack Aungier(Leinster)
Tom O'Toole(Ulster)
Joe Byrne(Leinster)
Diarmaid Barron(Munster)
Alex Clarke(Ulster)
Jack Dunne(Leinster)
Matthew Dalton(Ulster)
Cormac Daly(Leinster)
Charlie Ryan(Leinster) - u19
Caelan Doris(Leinster)
Jack O'Sullivan(Munster)
Aaron Hall(Ulster)
Matthew Agnew(Ulster)
Joe Dunleavy(Ulster)
Jonny Stewart(Ulster)
Hugh O'Sullivan(Leinster)
Harry Byrne(Leinster) - u19
Conor Dean(Leinster)
Angus Curtis(Ulster)
James Hume(Ulster)
Sean O'Brien(Leinster)
Michael Silvester(Leinster)
Tommy O'Brien(Leinster)
Peter Sullivan(Leinster)
Dan Hurley(Munster)
James McCarthy(Munster) - u19
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- Leo Cullen
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Re: Ireland u20 2017-2018
20s are in Edinburgh for camp of some sort.
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- Rob Kearney
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Re: Ireland u20 2017-2018
Anybody missing or held back by their Province for senior Squad pre-season?
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- Leo Cullen
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to be confirmed on May 22nd, but i'd expect a few, especially up north.Ruckedtobits wrote:Anybody missing or held back by their Province for senior Squad pre-season?
Ronan Kelleher & Eoghan Clarke are both set to miss anyway, Clarke is medical, not sure about Kelleher.
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A black ops extraction mission?mildlyinterested wrote:20s are in Edinburgh for camp of some sort.
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Re: Ireland u20 2017-2018
played scotland u20 today
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- Leo Cullen
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ireland u20 defeated a weakened scotland side 52-14
no teamsheet but the following were involved:
Jack Aungier
James French
Jordan Duggan
Alex Clarke
Cormac Daly
Charlie Ryan
Joe Dunleavy
Matty Agnew
John Hodnett
Hugh O'Sullivan
Jonny Stewart
Conor Dean
James Hume
Sean O'Brien
Michael Silvester
no teamsheet but the following were involved:
Jack Aungier
James French
Jordan Duggan
Alex Clarke
Cormac Daly
Charlie Ryan
Joe Dunleavy
Matty Agnew
John Hodnett
Hugh O'Sullivan
Jonny Stewart
Conor Dean
James Hume
Sean O'Brien
Michael Silvester
Re: Ireland u20 2017-2018
Ireland U-20 Squad (World Rugby U20 Championship 2018):
Forwards
Matthew Agnew (Ballymena RFC/Ulster)
Jack Aungier (St. Mary’s College RFC/Leinster)
Diarmuid Barron (Garryowen FC/Munster)
Joe Byrne (Dublin University/Leinster) *
Matthew Dalton (Malone RFC/Ulster)
Cormac Daly (Clontarf FC/Leinster)
Caelan Doris (St. Mary’s College RFC/Leinster) Captain
Jordan Duggan (Naas RFC/Leinster)
Jack Dunne (Dublin University FC/Leinster)
Joe Dunleavy (Malone RFC/Ulster)
James French (UCC/Munster)
Aaron Hall (Ballynahinch RFC/Ulster)
Tom O’Toole (Banbridge RFC/Ulster)
Jack O’Sullivan (UCC RFC/Munster)
Charlie Ryan (UCD RFC/Leinster)
Dan Sheehan (Dublin University FC/Leinster) *
Backs
Harry Byrne (UCD RFC/Leinster)
Conor Dean (St. Mary’s College RFC/Leinster)
Dan Hurley (Garryowen FC/Munster) *
James Hume (Banbridge RFC/Ulster)
Sean O’Brien (Clontarf FC/Leinster)
Hugh O’Sullivan (Clontarf FC/Leinster)
Tom Roche (Lansdowne FC/Leinster) *
Michael Silvester (Dublin University FC/Leinster)
Jonny Stewart (QUB RFC/Ulster)
Peter Sylvester (UCC RFC / Munster)
Tommy O’Brien (UCD RFC/Leinster)
James McCarthy (UL Bohemian RFC/Munster)
*Denotes uncapped at this level
15 Leinster, 7 Ulster and 6 Munster
Re: Ireland u20 2017-2018
Dan Sheehan can play hooker or back row. Ronan Kelleher is a big loss.
Doris for player of the tournament if he can stay fit. Everyone in Leinster is are very excited about his potential.
Doris for player of the tournament if he can stay fit. Everyone in Leinster is are very excited about his potential.
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- Mullet
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Not one Connacht player in the entire squad that's pretty pathetic
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- Leo Cullen
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Re: Ireland u20 2017-2018
Tom Tierney no longer Ireland u20 defense coach.
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Our chances of a good tournament just took a turn for the bettermildlyinterested wrote:Tom Tierney no longer Ireland u20 defense coach.
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Re: Ireland u20 2017-2018
Bit of an understatement there.Dave Cahill wrote:Our chances of a good tournament just took a turn for the bettermildlyinterested wrote:Tom Tierney no longer Ireland u20 defense coach.
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- Leo Cullen
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Re: Ireland u20 2017-2018
Bryan O'Connor(UCC), Jack Daly(Garryowen) are two players who have been called up to replace Tom O'Toole(Banbridge) and Jack O'Sullivan(UCC)
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- Rob Kearney
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Really tough luck on the two lads who have really shown their stripes since Christmas. Good luck to the two replacements, you've big shoes to fill but opportunity comes to pass, not pause. Go well.mildlyinterested wrote:Bryan O'Connor(UCC), Jack Daly(Garryowen) are two players who have been called up to replace Tom O'Toole(Banbridge) and Jack O'Sullivan(UCC)
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right, I know I'm getting on in years, but in my day you needed to wait for someone to die to get on the firsts to play senior rugby especially in the front row - this chap O'Toole blew his knee playing for fvkin Ulster. Jaysis times have changed.mildlyinterested wrote:Bryan O'Connor(UCC), Jack Daly(Garryowen) are two players who have been called up to replace Tom O'Toole(Banbridge) and Jack O'Sullivan(UCC)
#feelingoldandsadnow
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Re: Ireland u20 2017-2018
Ireland U20 v France U20, World Rugby U20s Championship (Stade Aime-Giral, Perpignan, Wednesday, 30th May 2018, 9.00pm local time/8.00pm Irish time)
15. Michael Silvester (Dublin University/Leinster)
14. Tom Roche (Lansdowne/Leinster) *
13. Tommy O'Brien (UCD/Leinster)
12. Peter Sylvester (UCC/Munster) *
11. Dan Hurley (Young Munster/Munster) *
10. Harry Byrne (UCD/Leinster)
9. Hugh O'Sullivan (Clontarf/Leinster)
1. James French (UCC/Munster)
2. Diarmuid Barron (Garryowen/Munster)
3. Jack Aungier (St. Mary's College/Leinster)
4. Matthew Dalton (Malone/Ulster)
5. Jack Dunne (Dublin University/Leinster)
6. Joe Dunleavy Malone(/Ulster)
7. Matthew Agnew (Ballymena/Ulster)
8. Caelan Doris (St. Mary's College/Leinster) Captain
Replacements:
16. Dan Sheehan (Dublin University/Leinster) *
17. Jordan Duggan (Naas/Leinster)
18. Joe Byrne (Dublin University/Leinster) *
19. Charlie Ryan (UCD/Leinster)
20. Aaron Hall (Ballynahinch/Ulster)
21. Jonny Stewart (Queen's University/ Ulster)
22. Conor Dean (St. Mary's College/Leinster)
23. Sean O'Brien (Clontarf/Leinster)
15. Michael Silvester (Dublin University/Leinster)
14. Tom Roche (Lansdowne/Leinster) *
13. Tommy O'Brien (UCD/Leinster)
12. Peter Sylvester (UCC/Munster) *
11. Dan Hurley (Young Munster/Munster) *
10. Harry Byrne (UCD/Leinster)
9. Hugh O'Sullivan (Clontarf/Leinster)
1. James French (UCC/Munster)
2. Diarmuid Barron (Garryowen/Munster)
3. Jack Aungier (St. Mary's College/Leinster)
4. Matthew Dalton (Malone/Ulster)
5. Jack Dunne (Dublin University/Leinster)
6. Joe Dunleavy Malone(/Ulster)
7. Matthew Agnew (Ballymena/Ulster)
8. Caelan Doris (St. Mary's College/Leinster) Captain
Replacements:
16. Dan Sheehan (Dublin University/Leinster) *
17. Jordan Duggan (Naas/Leinster)
18. Joe Byrne (Dublin University/Leinster) *
19. Charlie Ryan (UCD/Leinster)
20. Aaron Hall (Ballynahinch/Ulster)
21. Jonny Stewart (Queen's University/ Ulster)
22. Conor Dean (St. Mary's College/Leinster)
23. Sean O'Brien (Clontarf/Leinster)