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Re: Ireland v South Africa AI 2017.

Postby simonokeeffe » November 11th, 2017, 9:20 pm

Our defence was brilliant but we were great at slowing ball as well as organisation wise

POMs cut ear settles that debate ;-)

Ref was a bit of a homer
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Re: Ireland v South Africa AI 2017.

Postby blockhead » November 11th, 2017, 9:44 pm

[quote="Oldschool"]Stockdale just made an eejit of Lenihan and his MOM.[/quote

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Re: Ireland v South Africa AI 2017.

Postby Twist » November 11th, 2017, 9:56 pm

It will never not be hugely satisfying to beat SA by 35 points :D


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Re: Ireland v South Africa AI 2017.

Postby Peg Leg » November 11th, 2017, 10:13 pm

Twist wrote:It will never not be hugely satisfying to beat SA by 35 points :D


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Re: Ireland v South Africa AI 2017.

Postby Twist » November 11th, 2017, 10:15 pm

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Twist wrote:It will never not be hugely satisfying to beat SA by 35 points :D


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I don’t think I understand. Are you saying the fact we were at home takes the shine off it?


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Re: Ireland v South Africa AI 2017.

Postby Oldschool » November 11th, 2017, 10:24 pm

Twist wrote:
Peg Leg wrote:
Twist wrote:It will never not be hugely satisfying to beat SA by 35 points :D


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I don’t think I understand. Are you saying the fact we were at home takes the shine off it?


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A reference to the SA 2023 RWC bid I suspect.
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Re: Ireland v South Africa AI 2017.

Postby Ruckedtobits » November 11th, 2017, 10:47 pm

Initial assessment of Ireland.

RK: was fair, until you contrast him against his opponent, when he became good.
Conway: very good in attack and defence and made an impact.
Henshaw: my MOTM and was superb in defence & creative in broken play.
Aki: a great defensive debut, very disciplined & strong. Quiet in attack.
Stockdale: an excellent debut and belongs at this level. Now in possession.
Sexton: as narky as ever but directed and executed a very effective game plan.
Murray: another masterclass of involvement & management.
Church: superb display in scrum and did nothing stupid in open.
Best: well worth his continued presence. Excellent at scrum & breakdown.
Furlong: another trojan performance in every aspect.
Dev: a hidden gem who gets more effective by the year. Great tackling.
Henderson: carried and tackled with SouthAfrican type strength. A real 2nd row.
PO'M: ordinary in tackling but good in line-out. Pushed defensive line up hard.
SO'B: big workload in attack in defence and a half-yard off his best.
CJ: still looks under-powered this year but a really smart defensive display.

The Bench all contributed well and were effective in last quarter in attack and defence.

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Re: Ireland v South Africa AI 2017.

Postby Xanthippe » November 11th, 2017, 11:20 pm

FLIP wrote:So Joey Carbery now has a 100% record against the big three SH sides.


Ah come on - if you’re going to big him up then big him up properly

Ireland have never lost a game when Joey Carbery played!!!!!
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Re: Ireland v South Africa AI 2017.

Postby domhnallj » November 11th, 2017, 11:25 pm

Toner was my MoM. Exceptional display.
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Re: Ireland v South Africa AI 2017.

Postby paddyor » November 12th, 2017, 12:07 am

Ruddocks footwork in contact is some add on. Transformed his carrying. Goes back to tail end of last season Vs clermont.
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Re: Ireland v South Africa AI 2017.

Postby FLIP » November 12th, 2017, 12:19 am

Xanthippe wrote:
FLIP wrote:So Joey Carbery now has a 100% record against the big three SH sides.


Ah come on - if you’re going to big him up then big him up properly

Ireland have never lost a game when Joey Carbery played!!!!!


Ah sure but there's a few players who have 100% win rates, but I'm not aware of any other player who is undefeated against the big 3 from the SH.
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Re: Ireland v South Africa AI 2017.

Postby RAILWAY1 » November 12th, 2017, 12:26 am

Thought Stockdale shaded the MOTM today in a team performance where a the new guys gave Joe some things to think over before the 6N.
Sweetnam, Conway, Aki, James Ryan, John Ryan and Carberry for example should have the players in possession looking over their shoulders for selection.
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Re: Ireland v South Africa AI 2017.

Postby desperado » November 12th, 2017, 1:12 am

Ruckedtobits wrote:The more one looks at the teams, the more concern exists that we may not have enough sources to get enough ball to put pace on the game. If this turns out to be a series of set-pieces, we may not have the ammunition to put enough points on the board to beat this team of 'beeg stroong meen'.

The referee will be key. The sod will be wet but no wind. How quickly will he blow the tackle / breakdown? Will he have a very technical approach to the maul? How will he handle competition in the air?

Sexton's kicking will be better than Janties and Murray wil overshadow his opponent but will that be enough? Not to my way of thinking.



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Re: Ireland v South Africa AI 2017.

Postby RAILWAY1 » November 12th, 2017, 1:29 am

I think we have more resources than we have had in a long time with a lot of players with different talents and styles competing for places. The tricky bit for the brains trust that runs the team will be picking the right combinations for the various games and adapting the style to suit the opposition on any given day. This means that provincial hats should be hung behind the door of the committee room or wherever they are picking the team and the best possible 23 players should make up the match day squad for any given game :D
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Re: Ireland v South Africa AI 2017.

Postby blockhead » November 12th, 2017, 1:45 am

RAILWAY1 wrote:I think we have more resources than we have had in a long time with a lot of players with different talents and styles competing for places. The tricky bit for the brains trust that runs the team will be picking the right combinations for the various games and adapting the style to suit the opposition on any given day. This means that provincial hats should be hung behind the door of the committee room or wherever they are picking the team and the best possible 23 players should make up the match day squad for any given game :D


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Re: Ireland v South Africa AI 2017.

Postby Twist » November 12th, 2017, 8:07 am

Oldschool wrote:
Twist wrote:
Peg Leg wrote:[quote="Twist"]It will never not be hugely satisfying to beat SA by 35 points :D


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I don’t think I understand. Are you saying the fact we were at home takes the shine off it?


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A reference to the SA 2023 RWC bid I suspect.[/quote]

Ah I see it now. That’s good!


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Re: Ireland v South Africa AI 2017.

Postby Ruckedtobits » November 12th, 2017, 9:18 am

desperado wrote:
Ruckedtobits wrote:The more one looks at the teams, the more concern exists that we may not have enough sources to get enough ball to put pace on the game. If this turns out to be a series of set-pieces, we may not have the ammunition to put enough points on the board to beat this team of 'beeg stroong meen'.

The referee will be key. The sod will be wet but no wind. How quickly will he blow the tackle / breakdown? Will he have a very technical approach to the maul? How will he handle competition in the air?

Sexton's kicking will be better than Janties and Murray wil overshadow his opponent but will that be enough? Not to my way of thinking.



Do you want to have another go :wink:


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Re: Ireland v South Africa AI 2017.

Postby enby » November 12th, 2017, 10:15 am

FLIP wrote:
Xanthippe wrote:
FLIP wrote:So Joey Carbery now has a 100% record against the big three SH sides.


Ah come on - if you’re going to big him up then big him up properly

Ireland have never lost a game when Joey Carbery played!!!!!


Ah sure but there's a few players who have 100% win rates, but I'm not aware of any other player who is undefeated against the big 3 from the SH.


Interesting stats against SH trio:

Joey 3-0

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Re: Ireland v South Africa AI 2017.

Postby nc6000 » November 12th, 2017, 10:34 am

ronk wrote:
IanD wrote:AssHole of the Day Award goes to



The medic who lifted Oosthuizens left foot to pick up his bag off the medical cart. Gobshite lifted his hurt leg. The look Oosthuizen gave him was pure fury.



So that wasnt just my imagination. Unbelievable


Here's a clip of the incident. :roll:

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Re: Ireland v South Africa AI 2017.

Postby Hippo » November 12th, 2017, 12:01 pm

I think my favourite bit of skill in the whole match was Sweetnam's pick up (and retention) leading to Stockdale's try, fantastic moment.

Overall highlight of the day though has to go to ROG for comparing Zebo to Neymar!
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