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Ireland V West England Saturday 24th February @ 14:15

Postby Oldschoolsocks » February 10th, 2018, 11:26 pm

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Re: Ireland V West England Saturday 24th February @ 14:15

Postby RAILWAY1 » February 11th, 2018, 1:36 am

Leaving provincial bias aside what are the realistic options for centre if as expected Robbie Henshaw is not available. A fit Ringrose would be probable option but without games to get match fitness Joe Schmidt cannot take the risk.
Who do you pick from Farrell , Scannell, Reid, McCloskey , Marshall, McFadden or the old reliable A.N. Other
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Re: Ireland V West England Saturday 24th February @ 14:15

Postby TerenureJim » February 11th, 2018, 2:07 am

Farrell tried and tested with Aki against frontline opposition
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Re: Ireland V West England Saturday 24th February @ 14:15

Postby suisse » February 11th, 2018, 6:14 am

He needs to make a call at 22 as well. Carbery kicked away a lot of ball yesterday. Poorly kicked it away
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Re: Ireland V West England Saturday 24th February @ 14:15

Postby sunshiner1 » February 11th, 2018, 8:26 am

by RAILWAY1

Leaving provincial bias aside what are the realistic options for centre if as expected Robbie Henshaw is not available. A fit Ringrose would be probable option but without games to get match fitness Joe Schmidt cannot take the risk.
Who do you pick from Farrell , Scannell, Reid, McCloskey , Marshall, McFadden or the old reliable A.N. Other


Most likely Farrell or Marshall. Ringrose if he's fit. Aki is a fantastic 12 but put him at 13 and he's not so good.
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Re: Ireland V West England Saturday 24th February @ 14:15

Postby simonokeeffe » February 11th, 2018, 11:24 am

no offence but Marshall is a liability in big games let alone international

Its one dimensional bosh but Farrell is the only option

England served up a nice template on how to deal with Wales without even playing that well and exposed weaknesses in Anscombe and Patchell
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Re: Ireland V West England Saturday 24th February @ 14:15

Postby enby » February 11th, 2018, 2:23 pm

suisse wrote:He needs to make a call at 22 as well. Carbery kicked away a lot of ball yesterday. Poorly kicked it away


Have a look at the recording of the match and you will think differently. He tried a grubber for Larmour on a penalty advantage and a dink for Earls on a scrum advantage. His 3 other kicks from hand were defensive ones from his own 22. One was a poor thump down the middle and another was an excellent one into the backfield which was spoiled by an unlucky bounce back to an Italian and which ended in a tryfor them. He had a lovely penalty touch kick to 6m resulting in first Stockdale try.

His big error was butchering the overlap down the left and presenting the intercept that Earls superbly ran down. He showed serious inexperience with that.

Overall, I thought he played reasonably well and the 30 mins should stand to him.
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Ireland v Wales 2018 6Ns

Postby Oldschool » February 11th, 2018, 2:35 pm

Less than two weeks away to the big one.
If JS's West Brits can scrape past the Welsh then the fans can start dreaming.
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Re: Ireland V West England Saturday 24th February @ 14:15

Postby paddyor » February 11th, 2018, 4:51 pm

simonokeeffe wrote:no offence but Marshall is a liability in big games let alone international

Its one dimensional bosh but Farrell is the only option

England served up a nice template on how to deal with Wales without even playing that well and exposed weaknesses in Anscombe and Patchell

Because Anscombes weaknesses weren't obvious until yesterday.
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Re: Ireland V West England Saturday 24th February @ 14:15

Postby Flash Gordon » February 11th, 2018, 7:53 pm

simonokeeffe wrote:no offence but Marshall is a liability in big games let alone international

Its one dimensional bosh but Farrell is the only option

England served up a nice template on how to deal with Wales without even playing that well and exposed weaknesses in Anscombe and Patchell


Don't know about that. Scannell is an option, Earls too - and Ringrose is back training. Aki and Farrell is going to be crash bang wallop all the way which I'm not sure will do it against Wales and England.
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Re: West Britain v Wales 2018 6Ns

Postby Oldschool » February 11th, 2018, 9:35 pm

After the Italian game the good ship West Britain has been holed.
Losing both parts of Henrose means a makeshift centre pairing.
Some have suggested moving Earls to 13. This would have disaster written all over it.
Earls is an outstanding winger in outstanding form, leave well enough alone. A team like Wales would expose Earls playing at 13.
Farrell may be limited but he looks solid and reliable at 13.
The Wales scrum is very strong and will try to expose whoever we play at TH. At the very least Jack McGrath, as the better scrummager, should start this one.
Porter will be in the match day 23 but who will start, Ryan probably.
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Re: Ireland V West England Saturday 24th February @ 14:15

Postby Oldschoolsocks » February 11th, 2018, 10:25 pm

Front row - I'm not at all convinced that Taghd Furlong will be togging out in 2 weeks time - prime candidates are Andrew Porter and John Ryan - Joe would probably start with the more experienced Ryan and bring the more dynamic Porter on with 30 to go. LHs will be McGrath the Larger and Church in either order Hookers obviously Bestie and Nugget

Second Row - I guess it'll be one of Dev or JRyan partnering Hendo with the other on the bench

Back Row - any news on SOB? in his absence thistle be POM, DL and CJ with maybe Jack Conan on the bench?

Half backs - only debate here is actually who covers 21 and 22 - I
21 - Marmion or McGrath - for me it's McGrath everyday and twice on a Sunday
22 - Joey C? Ian K? Ross B? I like Ross Byrne but I reckon Joe has a hard on for Joey C so it'll either be Carberry or Ian Keatley

Centres - who goes here - as far as I know Ringer won't be back in time so it's a fairly straight choice for me to move Aki out 1 and bring Scannell the smaller in or Farrell coming straight in.
Farrell's shown in the AIs that he can handle the ball, while Aki won't be overjoyed with his passing yesterday both partnerships offer a big physical presence to defend against the big West English boys. I would actually go with option 2: Scannell 12 and Aki 13.

Back 3 - again no argument here RK, Keet and that young fella from the North will do just fine
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23 - I can't see Jordan Larmour getting the nod here, but who slots in here instead?
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Re: Ireland V West England Saturday 24th February @ 14:15

Postby RoboProp » February 11th, 2018, 11:16 pm

Race to get Ringer's ring rust into remission? Recommend RDS reckoning to ready for rally against reds.
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Re: West Britain v Wales 2018 6Ns

Postby RoboProp » February 11th, 2018, 11:21 pm

West Britain? You do know you shouldn't eat paint chips?
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Re: Ireland V West England Saturday 24th February @ 14:15

Postby Oldschoolsocks » February 11th, 2018, 11:59 pm

:happy clapper:
RoboProp wrote:Race to get Ringer's ring rust into remission? Recommend RDS reckoning to ready for rally against reds.
I just wanted to see Gordon D'Arcy get a 'back, sack and crack wax'
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Re: West Britain v Wales 2018 6Ns

Postby Oldschool » February 12th, 2018, 10:04 am

RoboProp wrote:West Britain? You do know you shouldn't eat paint chips?

It's a protest against Wales being referred to as West England in another thread - total disrespect.
Pretty insulting to the Welsh. tbh.
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Re: West Britain v Wales 2018 6Ns

Postby olaf the fat » February 12th, 2018, 10:30 am

Oldschool wrote:
RoboProp wrote:West Britain? You do know you shouldn't eat paint chips?

It's a protest against Wales being referred to as West England in another thread - total disrespect.
Pretty insulting to the Welsh. tbh.


Yes, surely it should be "Mid Britain"
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Re: West Britain v Wales 2018 6Ns

Postby Hornet » February 12th, 2018, 1:44 pm

Oldschool wrote:
RoboProp wrote:West Britain? You do know you shouldn't eat paint chips?

It's a protest against Wales being referred to as West England in another thread - total disrespect.
Pretty insulting to the Welsh. tbh.

+1. A bit of petty casual racism TBH.
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Re: West Britain v Wales 2018 6Ns

Postby Oldschoolsocks » February 12th, 2018, 2:02 pm

No - a well deserved friendly ribbing for their lack of support for our WC bid.
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Re: West Britain v Wales 2018 6Ns

Postby brotheroffrank » February 12th, 2018, 2:08 pm

So next Saturday are Ireland East/Southeast hosting South West Wales? (Both shorn of current internationals?)
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