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Anguished English Media is Comedy Gold

Postby backrower8 » June 18th, 2018, 6:08 pm

Listening to the English rugby podcasts (The Ruck from The Times and 'lovely' Stephen Jones/ Full Contact by The Telegraph with Brian Moore/ BBCs Rugby Podcast with Ugo Monye & Chris Jones) these past few months has been pure comedy gold.

They have been respectful to Irish rugby, Ireland and Leinster but you can hear most of them grinding their teeth as they say it. Stephen Jones was back to sneering after the 1st Test defeat.

They grind even more when talking about England under Eddie Jones. During the 6 Nations and before the S.African tour they were obviously frustrated but a tad fearful of upsetting King Eddie. Now they are in full 'panic' mode!
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Re: Anguished English Media is Comedy Gold

Postby TrapperChamonix » June 19th, 2018, 10:39 am

I find Eggchasers a more informed and thoughtful podcast. Interestingly they were predicting Englands #2018Downfall since the autumn internationals last year.
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Re: Anguished English Media is Comedy Gold

Postby backrower8 » June 19th, 2018, 1:19 pm

TrapperChamonix wrote:I find Eggchasers a more informed and thoughtful podcast. Interestingly they were predicting Englands #2018Downfall since the autumn internationals last year.
Ugo Monye and Chris Jones is pure bland muck


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Re: Anguished English Media is Comedy Gold

Postby johng » June 19th, 2018, 8:47 pm

Egg chasers don't even watch rugby. They are worse bullshitters than bluestalk.
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Re: Anguished English Media is Comedy Gold

Postby Logorrhea » June 19th, 2018, 9:18 pm

TrapperChamonix wrote:I find Eggchasers a more informed and thoughtful podcast. Interestingly they were predicting Englands #2018Downfall since the autumn internationals last year.


Tried them around the 6 nations. They knew alot about England, were confidently predicting our downfall throughout the tournament, but based that on very little current knowledge of the provinces. They clearly hadnt watched anythign apart from the HEC and internationsla. Nice guys but all felt a little limited to me.

Then again I like Monye and Jones :)
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Re: Anguished English Media is Comedy Gold

Postby bamboozle » June 20th, 2018, 5:21 am

johng wrote:Egg chasers don't even watch rugby. They are worse bullshitters than bluestalk.


I actually find them good and very entertaining, they're quite consistent in that they're not huge Pro14 fans and dont rate the league but i'd take them ahead of many others.

Here's my rankings:

I enjoy:
The Molecast
The Hard Yards - really surprised at how good this one is.
Eggchasers

I endure:
The left wing - great guests, Luke needs to take a breath every now and again and let others speak
The Rugby Dungeon

If i'm stuck i'll listen to:
Rugby on Off the ball - but need to carefully filter out certain presenters and pundits
Second Captains - but only the rugby, not into the constant twitter references & simpsons quotes
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Re: Anguished English Media is Comedy Gold

Postby TerenureJim » June 20th, 2018, 8:21 am

Harsh on Moyne and Jones, yes it's English and Prem centric but it's balanced enough and they come accross well rather than forced #bants
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Re: Anguished English Media is Comedy Gold

Postby TrapperChamonix » June 20th, 2018, 9:01 am

bamboozle wrote:
johng wrote:Egg chasers don't even watch rugby. They are worse bullshitters than bluestalk.


I actually find them good and very entertaining, they're quite consistent in that they're not huge Pro14 fans and dont rate the league but i'd take them ahead of many others.

Here's my rankings:

I enjoy:
The Molecast
The Hard Yards - really surprised at how good this one is.
Eggchasers

I endure:
The left wing - great guests, Luke needs to take a breath every now and again and let others speak
The Rugby Dungeon

If i'm stuck i'll listen to:
Rugby on Off the ball - but need to carefully filter out certain presenters and pundits
Second Captains - but only the rugby, not into the constant twitter references & simpsons quotes


JohnG may not like them, but its nonsense to say they don't watch rugby. For one on them its his job. They are definitely AP centric but they at least watch some pro 14 (one guy's family is from Ulster and he proports to be a fan). They definitely harp on about Pro14 resting players and AP plays all its superstars, but I cant think of 1 English commentator who doesnt have the same opinion.

In a wider sense I liked the 1014. Its based out of NZ with a Kiwi and a guy from Limerick. Its more a Youtube podcast and they try to do a bit of Murray Kinsella. But they haven't posted anything for months now and I think they may be gone to NZ TV. Certainly a lot better than Green and Gold which I've been listening to during the Ireland tour of Aus.

I'd agree with your list of others (especially James Downey on Hard Yards) but I can no longer listen to Luuuke. He seems to get great guests on and as you say talks over them and keeps telling us how great he was.

My guilty pleasure is The Rugby Pod with Jim Hamilton and Andy Goode. They really are prats and its all about the #BANTS. That and so many other things mean you should'nt like them, but I keep deleting their podcast and then reinstating it. I think its like reading The Sun at the dentists. I know its bullshit and it has undefended opinions but you cant help picking it up.
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Re: Anguished English Media is Comedy Gold

Postby Oldschool » June 20th, 2018, 10:03 am

backrower8 wrote:Listening to the English rugby podcasts (The Ruck from The Times and 'lovely' Stephen Jones/ Full Contact by The Telegraph with Brian Moore/ BBCs Rugby Podcast with Ugo Monye & Chris Jones) these past few months has been pure comedy gold.

They have been respectful to Irish rugby, Ireland and Leinster but you can hear most of them grinding their teeth as they say it. Stephen Jones was back to sneering after the 1st Test defeat.

They grind even more when talking about England under Eddie Jones. During the 6 Nations and before the S.African tour they were obviously frustrated but a tad fearful of upsetting King Eddie. Now they are in full 'panic' mode!

It's said that "Practice makes perfect".
In the context of this thread , Stephen Jones and Ian Robertson are peerless in their critical appreciation of Irish Rugby. :roll:
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Re: Anguished English Media is Comedy Gold

Postby Twist » June 20th, 2018, 12:36 pm

No love for Three Red Kings up in here?


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Re: Anguished English Media is Comedy Gold

Postby bonzo » June 20th, 2018, 1:13 pm

Schadenfreude doesn't get much schadenfreudier than seeing England lose repeatedly while led by Eddie Jones.

But if they lose a couple more, am I the only one who's really worried about a scenario where the RFU fire Eddie Jones and then poach Andy Farrell from us to replace him?
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Re: Anguished English Media is Comedy Gold

Postby jimbobjoe » June 20th, 2018, 2:03 pm

bonzo wrote:Schadenfreude doesn't get much schadenfreudier than seeing England lose repeatedly while led by Eddie Jones.

But if they lose a couple more, am I the only one who's really worried about a scenario where the RFU fire Eddie Jones and then poach Andy Farrell from us to replace him?


Can't see them doing that. Baxter or Richards are probably being lined up as Jones' successor.
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Re: Anguished English Media is Comedy Gold

Postby Ruckedtobits » June 20th, 2018, 3:20 pm

jimbobjoe wrote:
bonzo wrote:Schadenfreude doesn't get much schadenfreudier than seeing England lose repeatedly while led by Eddie Jones.

But if they lose a couple more, am I the only one who's really worried about a scenario where the RFU fire Eddie Jones and then poach Andy Farrell from us to replace him?


Can't see them doing that. Baxter or Richards are probably being lined up as Jones' successor.


Or they could try and poach one of the Welsh candidates. I suspect at least two of them would love the challenge .....and I don't mean Pivac.
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Re: Anguished English Media is Comedy Gold

Postby dropkick » June 20th, 2018, 10:44 pm

It was being talked about before the 6 nations that Eddie Jones is a 2 year coach. His previous teams performed very well for 2 years and in the third year their form falls off a cliff.


It must be something to do with the energy he brings. It's like he can give a team an artificial high but when that wears off there is a hell of a trough.
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Re: Anguished English Media is Comedy Gold

Postby backrower8 » June 21st, 2018, 6:46 pm

In what was otherwise a very sensible and grounded interview, Stephen Larkham on OTB gave a stoic defence of Eddie Jones saying that he would not worry about the recent results for England as Eddie is a great long term planner and there is great value in having a sticky patch this far out from the RWC. He said there is no point hitting the skids during the RWC and not knowing how to deal with it - better that it happens now and seemed to suggest that Eddie might even be deliberate in overseeing this barren run!

Hard to see anything other than blind loyalty in that.
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Re: Anguished English Media is Comedy Gold

Postby ronk » June 21st, 2018, 7:34 pm

Rival coach thinks England should stick with coach who has lost dressing room...
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Re: Anguished English Media is Comedy Gold

Postby backrower8 » June 21st, 2018, 8:08 pm

ronk wrote:Rival coach thinks England should stick with coach who has lost dressing room...


Maybe if he was talking to the BBC/Telegraph/The (Sunday) Times. Not so much OTB
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Re: Anguished English Media is Comedy Gold

Postby paddyor » June 21st, 2018, 8:58 pm

He's in a minority. Most Sh commentary on him I've seen say that after initial success he runs teams into the ground in training before the wheels come off. It also runs counter to history.

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Under Jones, Australia won the 2001 Tri Nations. Australia entered their home World Cup in 2003 as third favourites behind New Zealand and England. They managed to upset the All Blacks in the semi final before losing to England in the final in extra time through a last minute drop goal.......

In 2005, the Wallabies suffered a spate of injuries, losing seven games straight. At the end of their European tour they lost eight of the last nine matches, with the scrum in particular struggling. After a 22-24 loss to Wales at the Millennium Stadium, on 2 December 2005 his contract was terminated as the Wallabies head coach


Apparently they'd a decent first season with the reds.
Just over a month after Jones was relieved of his position as Wallabies head coach, he signed a three-year deal with the Queensland Reds to take over as head coach after the 2006 Super 14 season. In February 2006 he joined Saracens in a consultancy role until the end of the season to help them after they were struggling near the bottom of the league.[9]

Jones endured a torrid season at the Reds in 2007, who finished bottom of the Super 14 table, only managing two wins the entire season


Apparently the Japanese players were happy to see the back of him.
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Re: Anguished English Media is Comedy Gold

Postby johng » July 3rd, 2018, 4:13 pm

Just heard that 2 of the lads from egg chasers have a love island podcast.

Why am I not surprised?
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Re: Anguished English Media is Comedy Gold

Postby Degz » July 5th, 2018, 5:16 am

Have to say I'm enjoying Big Jim and Fatty Goode's pod.
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