Ireland u20 2020

Forum for the discussion of all International Rugby

Moderator: moderators

Post Reply
User avatar
blockhead
Rob Kearney
Posts: 7801
Joined: December 14th, 2011, 1:20 pm
Location: Up Your Stairs!

Re: Ireland u20 2018-2019

Post by blockhead »

Whats a good site for AIL results, scorers, lineups, subs etc?
You know I'm going to lose,
And gambling's for fools,
But that's the way I like it baby, I don't want to live FOREVER!
mildlyinterested
Leo Cullen
Posts: 10908
Joined: April 19th, 2017, 9:56 am

Re: Ireland u20 2018-2019

Post by mildlyinterested »

blockhead wrote:Whats a good site for AIL results, scorers, lineups, subs etc?
irishrugby.ie
User avatar
blockhead
Rob Kearney
Posts: 7801
Joined: December 14th, 2011, 1:20 pm
Location: Up Your Stairs!

Re: Ireland u20 2018-2019

Post by blockhead »

mildlyinterested wrote:
blockhead wrote:Whats a good site for AIL results, scorers, lineups, subs etc?
irishrugby.ie
Thanks dude.
You know I'm going to lose,
And gambling's for fools,
But that's the way I like it baby, I don't want to live FOREVER!
mildlyinterested
Leo Cullen
Posts: 10908
Joined: April 19th, 2017, 9:56 am

Re: Ireland u20 2018-2019

Post by mildlyinterested »

Ireland under-20's Locks

Charlie Ryan(Blackrock/UCD)
Show Spoiler:
Image
Ryan Baird(St. Michaels/DUFC)
Show Spoiler:
Image
Niall Murray(Buccaneers)
Show Spoiler:
Image
JJ McKee(Antrim/Ballymena)
Show Spoiler:
Image
Paddy Kelly(St. Munchins/Young Munster) - u19
Show Spoiler:
Image
Brian Deeny(Wexford/Clontarf) - u19
Show Spoiler:
Image
Charlie Ryan returns from last years squad where he got 5 caps, all off the bench, he is the most physically imposing of the locks named in teh squad and looks very likely to be 1st choice TH lock. Past that Ryan Baird and Niall Murray are both superb athletes for the position, with Murray lining up at 6 during warmup games over Christmas. JJ McKee looks most likely to backup Ryan at TH lock and has emerged this season after not featuring in Ireland squads at a younger age. Two locks who will be eligible again next season are named in the squad, Paddy Kelly is a physically imposing lock who could surprise at TH lock if given a chance, while Brian Deeny fits more in the athletic lock mold, with previous experience at 7's rugby and in the backrow.
mildlyinterested
Leo Cullen
Posts: 10908
Joined: April 19th, 2017, 9:56 am

Re: Ireland u20 2018-2019

Post by mildlyinterested »

Ireland u20 backrows

Scott Penny(St. Michaels/UCD)
Show Spoiler:
Image
Azur Allison(Ballymena/Ballymena)
Show Spoiler:
Image
John Hodnett(Clonakilty RFC/UCC)
Show Spoiler:
Image
Martin Moloney(Athy RFC/Old Belvedere)
Show Spoiler:
Image
Ronan Watters(St. Marys/St. Marys)
Show Spoiler:
Image
David McCann(RBAI/Banbridge) - u19
Show Spoiler:
Image
Scott Penny has surprised everyone this season with 3 senior starts for Leinster and if released will be the likely starting openside for the 20's. Below him John Hodnett and Martin Moloney looks the most likely players to play 7 for the 20's. Although both have experience at other positions, Hodnett at 8 and Moloney at 6. Azur Allison would be starting 8 if he could stay healthy, but he has been unable to do so this season, he is already confirmed to be missing the england game. Ronan Watters looks to be his obvious replacement at 8 or the previously mentioned Hodnett. David McCann could be an option at 8, but I think it more likely he plays 6 at this stage, although he is likely behind Niall Murray and others at the position.
sunshiner1
Mullet
Posts: 1746
Joined: October 13th, 2014, 9:07 pm

Re: Ireland u20 2018-2019

Post by sunshiner1 »

by mildlyinterested
sunshiner1 wrote:
Anyone see Stewart Moore(Ballymena/Malone) play before? Was chatting to an Ulster lad who considers him the second coming which is impressive when you consider the players Ulster have brought through their academy before.
has a very big reputation, apparently has an injury and is unlikely to feature.
Yeah I just found out. Someone said it's his third concussion this season :shock: With that injury profile I'd worry he'll ever play senior.
mildlyinterested
Leo Cullen
Posts: 10908
Joined: April 19th, 2017, 9:56 am

Re: Ireland u20 2018-2019

Post by mildlyinterested »

Ireland under-20 scrumhalves

Craig Casey(Ard Scoil Ris/Shannon)
Show Spoiler:
Image
Cormac Foley(St. Gerards/St. Marys)
Show Spoiler:
Image
Colm Reilly(Ballinrobe/Buccaneers)
Show Spoiler:
Image
Craig Casey who missed 14 months with knee injuries since leaving school, returns and looks set to get 1st shot against England after being named vice-captain. Seems to be highly thought of, but his size or lack there of remains a question. Cormac Foley played 12 last season for his school side, but lined up at 9 for Leinster. He started season strongly for St. Marys but only recently came back from an injury, he will be competing with Colm Reilly who has be a constant for Buccaneers and follows in the line of strong homegrown scrumhalves from Connacht.
mildlyinterested
Leo Cullen
Posts: 10908
Joined: April 19th, 2017, 9:56 am

Re: Ireland u20 2018-2019

Post by mildlyinterested »

Ireland under-20 outhalves

Harry Byrne(St. Michaels/Lansdowne)
Show Spoiler:
Image
Ben Healy(Glenstal Abbey/Garryowen)
Show Spoiler:
Image
David Hawkshaw(Belvedere/Clontarf)
Show Spoiler:
Image
Jake Flannery(Rockwell/Shannon)
Show Spoiler:
Image
Bruce Houston(Ballymena/Ballymena)
Show Spoiler:
Image
The primary outhalves would appear to by Harry Byrne, who returns from last season, and Ben Healy, who led Glenstal to Munster Senior Cup glory last season. Both have featured in the AIL for their club and for their respective provinces A sides, Byrne looks set to start against England. The next three listed are all outhalves but look set to play other positions for the under-20's, David Hawkshaw who was named captain for the under-20's looks set to start at 12, while Jake Flannery and Bruce Houston appear set to compete for the fullback position, with Flannery likely to start there against England.
mildlyinterested
Leo Cullen
Posts: 10908
Joined: April 19th, 2017, 9:56 am

Re: Ireland u20 2018-2019

Post by mildlyinterested »

Ireland u20 squad in Cork
Show Spoiler:
Image
User avatar
TrapperChamonix
Mullet
Posts: 1317
Joined: November 12th, 2007, 3:27 pm

Re: Ireland u20 2018-2019

Post by TrapperChamonix »

MI you're slipping up. I was expecting you to name them in sequential order :lol:
Never argue with an idiot. Someone looking on may not be able tell the difference
mildlyinterested
Leo Cullen
Posts: 10908
Joined: April 19th, 2017, 9:56 am

Re: Ireland u20 2018-2019

Post by mildlyinterested »

Ireland under-20 centres

Sean French(PBC/Cork Con)
Show Spoiler:
Image
David Hawkshaw(Belvedere/Clontarf)
Show Spoiler:
Image
Oli Morris(Exile/Saracens)
Show Spoiler:
Image
Stewart Moore(Ballymena/Malone)
Show Spoiler:
Image
David Hawkshaw has been named captain and looks set to started at 12 for Ireland, while Sean French looks set to start at 13. Oli Morris is a new name that entered contention over Christmas, he seems to be primarily an outside centre. Stewart Moore has a big reputation, but looks set to miss the 6 nations due to concussion. It will be interesting to see who covers 12 if needed, it could possibly be another outhalf such as Houston or Flannery or they will bring someone in from outside the squad.
mildlyinterested
Leo Cullen
Posts: 10908
Joined: April 19th, 2017, 9:56 am

Re: Ireland u20 2018-2019

Post by mildlyinterested »

“Scott is 19, he’ll play with the under-20s next week we hope, which is an important tournament for those guys. We’ve had a lot of communication around Scott and we’re trying to do what’s best by him,” Cullen said.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/lein ... -9wg5drjj9
User avatar
dropkick
Rhys Ruddock
Posts: 2192
Joined: January 2nd, 2007, 12:27 am
Location: Cork

Re: Ireland u20 2018-2019

Post by dropkick »

Of the Munster players I've seen..

Sean French. He certainly has the xfactor. Tall, fast, good kicking game and in schools rugby he seemed to come up with spectacular moments in every match creating and scoring tries.

Craig Casey. Very small but very talented. Good passer and kicker.

John Hodnett. I'm surprised he isn't in the Munster academy. He looks like a slightly shorter and faster Denis Leamy. Seems to have farmers strength and a low center of gravity.

Jonathan Wren. Smallish but very fast and elusive. Give him a bit of space and he could do damage.

Paddy Kelly. Your typical big tighthead lock that adds ballast to the pack. He's one of 3 Munster U19 locks who are in the 6'7/8 range. Eoin O'Connor scored against Leinster A the other week while Tom Ahern is in the academy but injured. Ireland U20s should have a good selection of locks next year.


I haven't seen too much of the others to comment.


I'm not sure about the scrum but from what I gather it looks a very good squad. The likes of Aaron O'Sullivan, Hawkshaw, Casey, Byrne, French, Wren are exciting players and I'm sure theres others who will add to the backline.

The pack have Milne, Penney etc. Looking forward to seeing Baird also.

As usual I expect England, France and even Wales and Italy too be more physically developed but hopefully the team puts in some good performances after last year.

Is the 40 man squad a new development?
mildlyinterested
Leo Cullen
Posts: 10908
Joined: April 19th, 2017, 9:56 am

Re: Ireland u20 2018-2019

Post by mildlyinterested »

Official stats for Ireland u20 squad

Prop
Ryan Lomas (6'1,114kg)
Tom Clarkson (6'1,108kg)
Josh Wycherley (6'0,105kg)
Guiseppe Coyne (6'0,104kg)
Michael Milne (5'11,114kg)
Luke Masters (N/A)

Hooker
Billy Scannell (5'11,101kg)
Dylan Tierney (N/A)
John McKee (N/A)

Lock
Charlie Ryan (6'7,110kg)
Paddy Kelly (6'7,107kg)
Ryan Baird (6'6,107kg)
JJ McKee (N/A)
Brian Deeny (N/A)

Backrow
Niall Murray (6'7,99kg)
Azur Allison (6'4,103kg)
David McCann (6'4,99kg)
Ronan Watters (6'2,95kg)
John Hodnett (6'1,103kg)
Scott Penny (6'0,100kg)
Martin Moloney (N/A)

Scrumhalf
Cormac Foley (5'11,85kg)
Colm Reilly (5'10,78kg)
Craig Casey (5'5,76kg)

Outhalf
Ben Healy (6'3,93kg)
Bruce Houston (6'3,91kg)
Harry Byrne (6'2,90kg)

Centre
Sean French (6'2,94kg)
Stewart Moore (6'0,89kg)
Olli Morris (5'10,88kg)
David Hawkshaw (5'9,84kg)

Back Three
Aaron O'Sullivan (6'2,95kg)
James McCarthy (6'1,84kg)
Jake Flannery (6'0,87kg)
Angus Kernohen (5'11,93kg)
Jonathan Wren (5'11,88kg)
Liam Turner (5'8,89kg)
Iwan Hugh (5'8,77kg)
Rob Russell (N/A)
Conor Phillips (N/A)Official stats for Ireland u20 squad

Prop
Ryan Lomas (6'1,114kg)
Tom Clarkson (6'1,108kg)
Josh Wycherley (6'0,105kg)
Guiseppe Coyne (6'0,104kg)
Michael Milne (5'11,114kg)
Luke Masters (N/A)

Hooker
Billy Scannell (5'11,101kg)
Dylan Tierney (N/A)
John McKee (N/A)

Lock
Charlie Ryan (6'7,110kg)
Paddy Kelly (6'7,107kg)
Ryan Baird (6'6,107kg)
JJ McKee (N/A)
Brian Deeny (N/A)

Backrow
Niall Murray (6'7,99kg)
Azur Allison (6'4,103kg)
David McCann (6'4,99kg)
Ronan Watters (6'2,95kg)
John Hodnett (6'1,103kg)
Scott Penny (6'0,100kg)
Martin Moloney (N/A)

Scrumhalf
Cormac Foley (5'11,85kg)
Colm Reilly (5'10,78kg)
Craig Casey (5'5,76kg)

Outhalf
Ben Healy (6'3,93kg)
Bruce Houston (6'3,91kg)
Harry Byrne (6'2,90kg)

Centre
Sean French (6'2,94kg)
Stewart Moore (6'0,89kg)
Olli Morris (5'10,88kg)
David Hawkshaw (5'9,84kg)

Back Three
Aaron O'Sullivan (6'2,95kg)
James McCarthy (6'1,84kg)
Jake Flannery (6'0,87kg)
Angus Kernohen (5'11,93kg)
Jonathan Wren (5'11,88kg)
Liam Turner (5'8,89kg)
Iwan Hugh (5'8,77kg)
Rob Russell (N/A)
Conor Phillips (N/A)
mildlyinterested
Leo Cullen
Posts: 10908
Joined: April 19th, 2017, 9:56 am

Re: Ireland u20 2018-2019

Post by mildlyinterested »

40 man squad is a new development, well they always had a wider squad and then named a 28-30 man 6 nations squad.
mildlyinterested
Leo Cullen
Posts: 10908
Joined: April 19th, 2017, 9:56 am

Re: Ireland u20 2018-2019

Post by mildlyinterested »

McNamara’s ranks will be bolstered by Leinster’s breakthrough talent this season, Scott Penny, who missed out on last week’s camp as he was instead preparing to start against last year’s Pro14 finalists.

His fellow ex-St Michael’s forward Ryan Baird will miss out on the clash however, after picking up an injury during the training camp.
User avatar
TrapperChamonix
Mullet
Posts: 1317
Joined: November 12th, 2007, 3:27 pm

Re: Ireland u20 2018-2019

Post by TrapperChamonix »

mildlyinterested wrote:McNamara’s ranks will be bolstered by Leinster’s breakthrough talent this season, Scott Penny, who missed out on last week’s camp as he was instead preparing to start against last year’s Pro14 finalists.

His fellow ex-St Michael’s forward Ryan Baird will miss out on the clash however, after picking up an injury during the training camp.
Plusses and minuses. I was looking forward to seeing Ryan up against the English. Hopefully it is only a minor injury
Never argue with an idiot. Someone looking on may not be able tell the difference
mildlyinterested
Leo Cullen
Posts: 10908
Joined: April 19th, 2017, 9:56 am

Re: Ireland u20 2018-2019

Post by mildlyinterested »

TrapperChamonix wrote:
mildlyinterested wrote:McNamara’s ranks will be bolstered by Leinster’s breakthrough talent this season, Scott Penny, who missed out on last week’s camp as he was instead preparing to start against last year’s Pro14 finalists.

His fellow ex-St Michael’s forward Ryan Baird will miss out on the clash however, after picking up an injury during the training camp.
Plusses and minuses. I was looking forward to seeing Ryan up against the English. Hopefully it is only a minor injury
hopefully, 20's missing Baird, Moore, Allison and Kernohen.. not a great omen for england on friday.
mildlyinterested
Leo Cullen
Posts: 10908
Joined: April 19th, 2017, 9:56 am

Re: Ireland u20 2018-2019

Post by mildlyinterested »

Image

england u20 team, we are going to get killed.

preview article: https://t.co/covTHn6Pt9
backrower8
Mullet
Posts: 1629
Joined: December 4th, 2006, 6:13 pm
Location: Blackrock

Re: Ireland u20 2018-2019

Post by backrower8 »

It will be a sad day if we lose to a team with 3 Ollies, an Olly and a Dolly


1 Ollie Campbell....there's only 1 Ollie Campbell...1 Ollie... (i'll get my coat)
Post Reply