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Re: Andy Farell's Reign of Terror

Postby LeRouxIsPHat » December 16th, 2019, 6:04 pm

Flash Gordon wrote:I wonder are Jordi and Jack McGrath reflecting on their Ulster decision? Leave because they want to improve his chances of getting in the Ireland squad and the kids behind them are now in the Ireland squad!


I have a theory that Jack knew he was in decline so got a nice big contract to move to Ulster. He would still have been under contract now and would have been in a very poor negotiating position, whereas now he presumably is on the same money (or more) for at least an extra year, and will probably be more important to Ulster at that stage than he would have been to Leinster right now.

I don't mean to have a go at him when I say that. If I'm right then it's smart.
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Re: Andy Farell's Reign of Terror

Postby Dave Cahill » December 16th, 2019, 6:04 pm

Didn't John Ryan have to come off at the weekend with back-twang?
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Re: Andy Farell's Reign of Terror

Postby Dave Cahill » December 16th, 2019, 6:06 pm

By the way, what the f%~k is a stocktake? Do they get their SKUs scanned.

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Re: Andy Farell's Reign of Terror

Postby LeRouxIsPHat » December 16th, 2019, 6:08 pm

Dave Cahill wrote:By the way, what the f%~k is a stocktake? Do they get their SKUs scanned.

Fuckwits


It's not hard to imagine that Joe had them barcoded.
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Re: Andy Farell's Reign of Terror

Postby Peg Leg » December 16th, 2019, 7:11 pm

Any update on Tadhg Beirne?
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Re: Andy Farell's Reign of Terror

Postby John23 » December 16th, 2019, 7:58 pm

Broken ankle. Lengthy absence according to Indo
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Re: Andy Farell's Reign of Terror

Postby johng » December 16th, 2019, 8:35 pm

LeRouxIsPHat wrote:Looking at the squad makes me think that Porter will be considered at LH because the only LHs are Healy and Kilcoyne, whereas there's Furlong, Porter, O'Toole, and Marty and on the TH side.

First thing I noticed. 45 players is 3 teams or a player short of 2 matchday squads. 2 LHs in that lot A/ Doesn't say a lot for Jack Mc/cronin/everyone else and B/ must point to Porter covering LH
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Re: Andy Farell's Reign of Terror

Postby johng » December 16th, 2019, 8:41 pm

limecat wrote:Interesting to see 5 Leinster back-row players in there (Connors, Deegan, Doris, Ruddock and van der Flier), considering that Conan and Leavy are out injured.

Really says something about our depth in that area.

Mental. Considering also the Retirement of Heaslip and SOB to LI both of whom could have made the WC in other circumstances. And Jordi to Ulster.

If you really want to push it Dominic Ryan is still in his 20s and Kevin McLaughlin is younger than Jamie.
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Re: Andy Farell's Reign of Terror

Postby ronk » December 16th, 2019, 8:57 pm

Ruckedtobits wrote:Andy Farrell's First Squad here:
https://www.irishrugby.ie/2019/12/16/ne ... stocktake/

Connacht: 5 players including Blade & Heffernan, but no Carty or Marmion
Leinster: 19 players incl. Connors, JGP, R. Kelleher & Deegan, but no RK or Nugget
Munster: 12 players including Haley & Scannell (x2), but no J Ryan
Ulster: 9 players including O'Toole and Burns, but no Jack Mc, Jordi or O'Sullivan

Absolutely delighted that Devin Toner is included


Listing the squad by provinces: what a terrible idea. Makes it harder to read and starts off by emphasising that they represent 4 different teams not 1.

It's almost like they're promoting Interprovincial rivalries (just before a load of interpros).
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Re: Andy Farell's Reign of Terror

Postby johng » December 16th, 2019, 9:07 pm

johng wrote:
LeRouxIsPHat wrote:Looking at the squad makes me think that Porter will be considered at LH because the only LHs are Healy and Kilcoyne, whereas there's Furlong, Porter, O'Toole, and Marty and on the TH side.

First thing I noticed. 45 players is 3 teams or a player short of 2 matchday squads. 2 LHs in that lot A/ Doesn't say a lot for Jack Mc/cronin/everyone else and B/ must point to Porter covering LH

Or else........ Maybe it wasn't just blockhead who mixed up O'Toole and O'Sullivan
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Re: Andy Farell's Reign of Terror

Postby paddyor » December 17th, 2019, 1:50 am

Flash Gordon wrote:I wonder are Jordi and Jack McGrath reflecting on their Ulster decision? Leave because they want to improve his chances of getting in the Ireland squad and the kids behind them are now in the Ireland squad!

McGrath's injured no?
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Re: Andy Farell's Reign of Terror

Postby Ruckedtobits » December 17th, 2019, 5:19 pm

Ruckedtobits wrote:My first shot at Farrell's first Irish Squad 'get together' for Christmas week. My two criteria for selection are:

a) Other than announced retirements, he won't want the headlines to be about who has been ommited ;
b) Anybody who has given even one performance which suggests he could have international potential will be included, so that they all feel that Farrell sees form as key, rather than reputation


Certainly didn't get that part correct!
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Re: Andy Farell's Reign of Terror

Postby Twist » December 17th, 2019, 7:46 pm

paddyor wrote:
Flash Gordon wrote:I wonder are Jordi and Jack McGrath reflecting on their Ulster decision? Leave because they want to improve his chances of getting in the Ireland squad and the kids behind them are now in the Ireland squad!

McGrath's injured no?


Yeah, but other injured players like Carbery are included
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Re: Andy Farell's Reign of Terror

Postby ronk » December 17th, 2019, 11:11 pm

Twist wrote:
paddyor wrote:
Flash Gordon wrote:I wonder are Jordi and Jack McGrath reflecting on their Ulster decision? Leave because they want to improve his chances of getting in the Ireland squad and the kids behind them are now in the Ireland squad!

McGrath's injured no?


Yeah, but other injured players like Carbery are included


He's an outhalf though.
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Re: Andy Farell's Reign of Terror

Postby johng » December 18th, 2019, 12:41 am

Kelleher injured too. Probably won't play a game before the 6n
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Re: Andy Farell's Reign of Terror

Postby Dave Cahill » December 24th, 2019, 10:48 am

So it seems that all the lads that participated in the IRFU orchestrated Joe Schmidt pile-on were rewarded yesterday with a cosy sit down with Andy Farrell.
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Re: Andy Farell's Reign of Terror

Postby LeRouxIsPHat » January 4th, 2020, 2:04 pm

There's still a long way to go before the 6N but I think the selection is really up in the air now.

Kelleher would probably be the form choice at hooker but he's still injured and obviously hasn't even made his debut yet so hard to see him starting even if he's back next week. Scannell is playing okay but that's about the height of it.

I think Furlong is probably just ahead at tighthead but that could go either way with Porter.

Henderson and Ryan are probably still way ahead in the second row but for some reason I'm not sold on them as a partnership and we lack depth. Dev is playing well again and so is Dillane but I think we've regressed there in the last year.

POM and CJ both out of form in the back row and there's no Tadgh Beirne as an option at 6. I'd be reluctant to start Kelleher at 2 but for some reason I think I'd back Doris at 8 right now.

I think Cooney has now done enough to deserve to start at scrumhalf and Murray is nowhere near his best, but it might depend on if Johnny is at ten and how Farrell thinks Cooney can replicate the control he has for Ulster at international level.

Aki isn't in great form so think he'll go with Henshaw and Ringrose.

Stockdale is playing well again so that helps the back three situation. For me it would be Larmour, Conway, and Stockdale. I'm still not sold on Addison, heaps of mistakes last night to go with the good stuff but I'd be happy to have him in the 23 jersey. We're a bit short on outside backs though.

Plus there's still the captain situation to sort out.
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Re: Andy Farell's Reign of Terror

Postby ronk » January 4th, 2020, 6:32 pm

If Kelleher gets a HC start he could be in the frame. Cronin is the safe option.
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Re: Andy Farell's Reign of Terror

Postby LeRouxIsPHat » January 4th, 2020, 9:39 pm

Cronin wasn't at the Christmas meet up though.
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Re: Andy Farell's Reign of Terror

Postby ronk » January 4th, 2020, 10:04 pm

LeRouxIsPHat wrote:Cronin wasn't at the Christmas meet up though.


I don’t think it matters.
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