POC should be Captain
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POC should be Captain
Cause he would just be better
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Epaddy, Freedom Fighter
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Re: POC should be Captain
Dunno about that. I prefer forwards as captains so from that perspective I wouldn't be complaining but he hasn't impressed me massively over the years to suggest he should be ahead of BOD. Anyway, he's not going to change the captaincy mid-6N and I think it'd be hard to strip the captaincy from BOD unless he did something very wrong or was injured for ages.epaddy wrote:Cause he would just be better
one good thing i did notice about him last week against Italy was the respect he commands on the pitch. there was a bit of a scrap about to commence, and he just strolled in there, seperated people, some were about to resist his efforts until they saw who it was and members of both teams just separated.
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He's still the leader of the pack and for me that is a more important job than captain. It's him and not BOD that gets the pack fired up. All BOD has to do is decide whether to go for the posts or kick to tocuh. At the end of the day it doesn't make that much of a difference as to who is the captain.
unless we had a captain who could influence the ref like Martin Johnson and Dallaglio could ... but neither of them are that kind of character anyway imo.thecoofreak wrote:He's still the leader of the pack and for me that is a more important job than captain. It's him and not BOD that gets the pack fired up. All BOD has to do is decide whether to go for the posts or kick to tocuh. At the end of the day it doesn't make that much of a difference as to who is the captain.
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BOD looks like he is trying to influence refs but he is rubbish at doing it. Is in no way as effective as MJ.
On another point altogether, i was at a jct match earlier in the week and the i never saw a ref who was influenced as easily as this guy. Everytime someone in the crowd would shout out offside or something he would stick up his hand for a penalty. He was absolutely shite
On another point altogether, i was at a jct match earlier in the week and the i never saw a ref who was influenced as easily as this guy. Everytime someone in the crowd would shout out offside or something he would stick up his hand for a penalty. He was absolutely shite
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Johnno didn't come into his own until the latter half of his career. POC is young and there's plenty of time for him to develop as a captain/leader. I'm not particularly happy with BOD as captain - I don't like his style and the fact that he's a back. However, most people who favour POC for captain are just thickos who think ohhh, he's a bit like that Martin Johnson, isn't he?!? That right epaddy?ruck wrote:unless we had a captain who could influence the ref like Martin Johnson and Dallaglio could ... but neither of them are that kind of character anyway imo.thecoofreak wrote:He's still the leader of the pack and for me that is a more important job than captain. It's him and not BOD that gets the pack fired up. All BOD has to do is decide whether to go for the posts or kick to tocuh. At the end of the day it doesn't make that much of a difference as to who is the captain.
Ginger should be captain. The only reason we're arguing this is because he's Munster.
He was effectively Captain of the Lions for the 2nd & 3rd tests, he has an unfasable professional never say die attitude and is the most consistent performer in a green jersey.
BOD was again almost Binned for Stamping. He's a great player, but O'Connell is just the natural leader.
He was effectively Captain of the Lions for the 2nd & 3rd tests, he has an unfasable professional never say die attitude and is the most consistent performer in a green jersey.
BOD was again almost Binned for Stamping. He's a great player, but O'Connell is just the natural leader.
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Shouldn't that count against him?He was effectively Captain of the Lions for the 2nd & 3rd tests
Nearly all of the great captains have had their run ins with the foul play laws of the game. It's because they play the game to the limit and that's the very reason they're good captains. POC's ill advised shoulder charge in the 2nd Lions test was probably the worst mistake of anyone over the course of the series and much worse than any mistakes BOD has ever made.BOD was again almost Binned for Stamping.
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Errr.....was that not POC going needlessly over the top to smack someone with the try line beckoning for a 14 point Lions win?harryp wrote:Ginger should be captain. The only reason we're arguing this is because he's Munster.
He was effectively Captain of the Lions for the 2nd & 3rd tests, he has an unfasable professional never say die attitude and is the most consistent performer in a green jersey.
BOD was again almost Binned for Stamping. He's a great player, but O'Connell is just the natural leader.
By the way, if POC is so inspirational, how come the pack gave up last week, were hammered against France and when he was captain in Paris 2 years ago, he skippered one of the more gutless performances in Irish rugby history!
I love him as a player - but let's be balanced.....
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POC is the obvious choice for Captain but it seems to deeply affect his game. He is a better leader not as Captain.Flash Gordon wrote:Errr.....was that not POC going needlessly over the top to smack someone with the try line beckoning for a 14 point Lions win?harryp wrote:Ginger should be captain. The only reason we're arguing this is because he's Munster.
He was effectively Captain of the Lions for the 2nd & 3rd tests, he has an unfasable professional never say die attitude and is the most consistent performer in a green jersey.
BOD was again almost Binned for Stamping. He's a great player, but O'Connell is just the natural leader.
By the way, if POC is so inspirational, how come the pack gave up last week, were hammered against France and when he was captain in Paris 2 years ago, he skippered one of the more gutless performances in Irish rugby history!
I love him as a player - but let's be balanced.....
The real Captain was sitting watching the game back in Ireland.
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You mean the Swerve?bluesky wrote:POC is the obvious choice for Captain but it seems to deeply affect his game. He is a better leader not as Captain.Flash Gordon wrote:Errr.....was that not POC going needlessly over the top to smack someone with the try line beckoning for a 14 point Lions win?harryp wrote:Ginger should be captain. The only reason we're arguing this is because he's Munster.
He was effectively Captain of the Lions for the 2nd & 3rd tests, he has an unfasable professional never say die attitude and is the most consistent performer in a green jersey.
BOD was again almost Binned for Stamping. He's a great player, but O'Connell is just the natural leader.
By the way, if POC is so inspirational, how come the pack gave up last week, were hammered against France and when he was captain in Paris 2 years ago, he skippered one of the more gutless performances in Irish rugby history!
I love him as a player - but let's be balanced.....
The real Captain was sitting watching the game back in Ireland.
Flash ahhhh ahhh, he'll save every one of us
Well, I would have him as Captain, he would be dead polite to the President! Nah Foley or Gleeson for me as Captain.Flash Gordon wrote:You mean the Swerve?bluesky wrote:POC is the obvious choice for Captain but it seems to deeply affect his game. He is a better leader not as Captain.Flash Gordon wrote: Errr.....was that not POC going needlessly over the top to smack someone with the try line beckoning for a 14 point Lions win?
By the way, if POC is so inspirational, how come the pack gave up last week, were hammered against France and when he was captain in Paris 2 years ago, he skippered one of the more gutless performances in Irish rugby history!
I love him as a player - but let's be balanced.....
The real Captain was sitting watching the game back in Ireland.
Thats not really relevant to this website, Ruck - hope you don't mind me saying so, but none of us wants this website to go the way M'fans did...ruck wrote:didn't you disagree with a similar statement on munsterfans only this week?
And for the record - BOD was never a good choice as captain, which is not a slur on his character. I just think it simply doens't suit him. Give it to Paul O'Connell without a doubt.
Course it's relevant. He made a statement elsewhere stating something different.ckav wrote:Thats not really relevant to this website, Ruck - hope you don't mind me saying so, but none of us wants this website to go the way M'fans did...ruck wrote:didn't you disagree with a similar statement on munsterfans only this week?
If Bertie goes on the BBC and says that Brian Cowen is a rabid donkey and then goes on RTE declares Brian Cowen to be a wonderful man, is it not relevant either cos it was stated elsewhere??
You really are an incredible muppet. You have this bossy bitchy attitude that really pisses everyone off. You cannot argue anything with you. In your small mind you are right in everything you say and you cannot debate anything without trying to be all mighty and grand. It's going to be a long fall when you decide to come off that high horse of yours. Whatever you throw back at me is pure and utter nonsense and I will not justify it with a response. So don't bother.
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