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Re: Pro 14 - General Thread

Postby blockhead » May 19th, 2019, 11:18 am

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Re: Pro 14 - General Thread

Postby fourthirtythree » May 22nd, 2019, 7:43 pm

They do it every year to some extent, but the Pto14 Dream Team this year is some top level trolling. Have at it!

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Re: Pro 14 - General Thread

Postby blockhead » May 22nd, 2019, 9:42 pm

fourthirtythree wrote:They do it every year to some extent, but the Pto14 Dream Team this year is some top level trolling. Have at it!

https://www.the42.ie/pro14-dream-team-n ... 6-May2019/


This is the otherside of the "leinster used 155 different players this season" debate.
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Re: Pro 14 - General Thread

Postby blockhead » May 26th, 2019, 8:53 pm

Total attendance this season for the Pro14 was 1,260,547.
Thats down 43,000 on last season.
The average attendance was 8,239. Interestingly, if you remove the Saffers home games from the equation the average attendance for the Pro12 teams has been higher in the last 2 season than ever before.

Leinster ave 17,243 up 450
Ulster ave 13,835 down 828
Munster ave 12,918 down 370
Connacht ave 6013 up 180
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Re: Pro 14 - General Thread

Postby johng » May 27th, 2019, 12:19 am

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Re: Pro 14 - General Thread

Postby blockhead » May 27th, 2019, 1:38 am

BTW I did not include last seasons Pro14 final into the calculations.
Connacht having a Pro14 average of over 6K is very impressive.
Not long ago it was around 1,500.
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Re: Pro 14 - General Thread

Postby neill_m » May 28th, 2019, 9:42 am

Some chat that the Pro 14 final for 2019/20 season will be at the Cardiff City Stadium. Nothing official yet.
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Re: Pro 14 - General Thread

Postby blockhead » May 28th, 2019, 10:00 am

neill_m wrote:Some chat that the Pro 14 final for 2019/20 season will be at the Cardiff City Stadium. Nothing official yet.


33K, that's very unambitious considering the last 3 seasons. Agreed it should be in Wales, why not the Principality?
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Re: Pro 14 - General Thread

Postby neill_m » May 28th, 2019, 10:05 am

blockhead wrote:
neill_m wrote:Some chat that the Pro 14 final for 2019/20 season will be at the Cardiff City Stadium. Nothing official yet.


33K, that's very unambitious considering the last 3 seasons. Agreed it should be in Wales, why not the Principality?


I believe that each year the Principality hosts Monster Trucks around the same time of year as the final, which is a big earner for the stadium. That is not a joke, being serious.
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Re: Pro 14 - General Thread

Postby OTT » May 28th, 2019, 10:20 am

It should only be there if there are no other bidders, if Wales don't really want the game ie won't bid for it with the Principality Stadium then it should be in Scotland, Italy or Ireland.

My memories of that stadium from the 2011 Challenge Cup Final are that it was basically just a barn. Facilities were absolutely crap, I could not believe it was a new build. After getting 47k fans this year why would you want to go smaller.

Now if it is the only bidder, fair enough.
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Re: Pro 14 - General Thread

Postby Xanthippe » May 28th, 2019, 11:52 am

OTT wrote:It should only be there if there are no other bidders, if Wales don't really want the game ie won't bid for it with the Principality Stadium then it should be in Scotland, Italy or Ireland.

My memories of that stadium from the 2011 Challenge Cup Final are that it was basically just a barn. Facilities were absolutely crap, I could not believe it was a new build. After getting 47k fans this year why would you want to go smaller.

Now if it is the only bidder, fair enough.


Would love the Pro14 to do what the EPCR ERC promised and then reneged on - imagine the final being in the San Siro
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Re: Pro 14 - General Thread

Postby blockhead » May 28th, 2019, 11:58 am

Xanthippe wrote:
OTT wrote:It should only be there if there are no other bidders, if Wales don't really want the game ie won't bid for it with the Principality Stadium then it should be in Scotland, Italy or Ireland.

My memories of that stadium from the 2011 Challenge Cup Final are that it was basically just a barn. Facilities were absolutely crap, I could not believe it was a new build. After getting 47k fans this year why would you want to go smaller.

Now if it is the only bidder, fair enough.


Would love the Pro14 to do what the EPCR promised and then reneged on - imagine the final being in the San Siro


Yeah, with about 10k at it. And that's with Benetton in the final.
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Re: Pro 14 - General Thread

Postby Dave Cahill » May 28th, 2019, 12:18 pm

The EPCR never promised the final would be in Italy.
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Re: Pro 14 - General Thread

Postby wixfjord » May 28th, 2019, 12:25 pm

San Siro would also be a huge risk for a Pro14 final.

What happens if no Irish or no Italian team gets there and you're left with 20k in an 80k stadium?
The optics would be terrible.

Even the two football teams have trouble 3/4s filling it. They are actually looking to build a better, reduced capacity stadium.
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Re: Pro 14 - General Thread

Postby Xanthippe » May 28th, 2019, 1:14 pm

Dave Cahill wrote:The EPCR never promised the final would be in Italy.


Sorry that should have said ERC
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Re: Pro 14 - General Thread

Postby rooster » May 28th, 2019, 11:42 pm

wixfjord wrote:San Siro would also be a huge risk for a Pro14 final.

What happens if no Irish or no Italian team gets there and you're left with 20k in an 80k stadium?
The optics would be terrible.

Even the two football teams have trouble 3/4s filling it. They are actually looking to build a better, reduced capacity stadium.
The football stadium in Bologne holds over 38k and would work well for PRO14, a lot would go there on a long weekend break
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Re: Pro 14 - General Thread

Postby wixfjord » May 29th, 2019, 10:22 am

rooster wrote:
wixfjord wrote:San Siro would also be a huge risk for a Pro14 final.

What happens if no Irish or no Italian team gets there and you're left with 20k in an 80k stadium?
The optics would be terrible.

Even the two football teams have trouble 3/4s filling it. They are actually looking to build a better, reduced capacity stadium.
The football stadium in Bologne holds over 38k and would work well for PRO14, a lot would go there on a long weekend break


Aren't they rebuilding that over the next few years too? (Italian stadiums really are generally awful!)
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Re: Pro 14 - General Thread

Postby rooster » May 29th, 2019, 12:09 pm

wixfjord wrote:
rooster wrote:
wixfjord wrote:San Siro would also be a huge risk for a Pro14 final.

What happens if no Irish or no Italian team gets there and you're left with 20k in an 80k stadium?
The optics would be terrible.

Even the two football teams have trouble 3/4s filling it. They are actually looking to build a better, reduced capacity stadium.
The football stadium in Bologne holds over 38k and would work well for PRO14, a lot would go there on a long weekend break


Aren't they rebuilding that over the next few years too? (Italian stadiums really are generally awful!)
Could be, they have rebuilt a few others in the region, there was one they talked about using at one stage for a few Zebre matches.
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Re: Pro 14 - General Thread

Postby paddyor » May 29th, 2019, 2:17 pm

wixfjord wrote:Aren't they rebuilding that over the next few years too? (Italian stadiums really are generally awful!)

They are, would be quite a feat to host it in the San Siro.
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Re: Pro 14 - General Thread

Postby Dave Cahill » May 29th, 2019, 2:26 pm

The problem with Italian stadia is that they are designed by brilliant Italian architects but built by legitimate Italian businessmen.
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