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Re: Munster, The Money Pit Province 2019/2020

Postby RobbieRockBoy » November 8th, 2019, 1:38 pm

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Re: Munster, The Money Pit Province 2019/2020

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Re: Munster, The Money Pit Province 2019/2020

Postby blockhead » November 8th, 2019, 2:09 pm

RobbieRockBoy wrote:Alby gone on the 23rd.

https://www.the42.ie/alby-mathewson-mun ... 1-Nov2019/


This bit.
The 33-year old is determined to go out on a high, starting with their home clash against Ulster tomorrow and also the start of the Heineken Champions Cup, with Johann van Graan including him in the squad for Europe ahead of promising Irish U20 Craig Casey.


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Re: Munster, The Money Pit Province 2019/2020

Postby neill_m » November 8th, 2019, 2:51 pm

blockhead wrote:
RobbieRockBoy wrote:Alby gone on the 23rd.

https://www.the42.ie/alby-mathewson-mun ... 1-Nov2019/


This bit.
The 33-year old is determined to go out on a high, starting with their home clash against Ulster tomorrow and also the start of the Heineken Champions Cup, with Johann van Graan including him in the squad for Europe ahead of promising Irish U20 Craig Casey.


For 1 game?


Mathewson's registered in Heineken squad for first 2 rounds - Ospreys and Racing on the 23rd. He will be swopped out ahead of the double header v Saracens in Rounds 3 and 4.
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Re: Munster, The Money Pit Province 2019/2020

Postby Twist » November 8th, 2019, 3:27 pm

tomthefan wrote:We were sold a dud!


Sold??


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Re: Munster, The Money Pit Province 2019/2020

Postby Twist » November 8th, 2019, 3:30 pm

RobbieRockBoy wrote:Alby gone on the 23rd.

https://www.the42.ie/alby-mathewson-mun ... 1-Nov2019/


He’s been brilliant for them



We should sign him


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Re: Munster, The Money Pit Province 2019/2020

Postby LeRouxIsPHat » November 8th, 2019, 4:03 pm

There goes my theory that Murray would need an op after the World Cup and Alby would stay on.

Not that I'd wish an op on Murray but it's pretty worrying that he wasn't just trying to get through that tournament if that's the form he's been showing since his return. I think it was nerve damage and that can be a funny thing so hopefully he recovers in the same way Healy did.
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Re: Munster, The Money Pit Province 2019/2020

Postby Oldschool » November 8th, 2019, 6:37 pm

LeRouxIsPHat wrote:There goes my theory that Murray would need an op after the World Cup and Alby would stay on.

Not that I'd wish an op on Murray but it's pretty worrying that he wasn't just trying to get through that tournament if that's the form he's been showing since his return. I think it was nerve damage and that can be a funny thing so hopefully he recovers in the same way Healy did.

Hopefully but not at the expense of Ireland.
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Re: Munster, The Money Pit Province 2019/2020

Postby neill_m » November 10th, 2019, 12:32 am

Munster have got an "interesting" Heineken group - angry Saracens, Ospreys in the brown stuff and Racing also in trouble 13th in T14.
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Re: Munster, The Money Pit Province 2019/2020

Postby Twist » November 10th, 2019, 6:50 pm

neill_m wrote:Munster have got an "interesting" Heineken group - angry Saracens, Ospreys in the brown stuff and Racing also in trouble 13th in T14.


Maybe an uninterested Saracens and a distracted Racing?

Saracens are gonna get a serious reception in Limerick anyway!
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Re: Munster, The Money Pit Province 2019/2020

Postby fourthirtythree » November 10th, 2019, 8:23 pm

McCall already said that the league would be their focus due to the points deduction and needing to avoid relegation and that their selections in Europe would reflect that.
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Re: Munster, The Money Pit Province 2019/2020

Postby ronk » November 11th, 2019, 9:12 am

Coming pretty close to a joker at outhalf. A bit close to the HC to do anything though.

Tyler is there and Scannell is a good option. After that it's Healy or moving Cronin. They were probably going for a 6-2 bench anyway so no biggie for now.

Leinster have been down Frawley and Sexton for most of the season so far, but we have options because Harry Byrne has been getting a run.
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Re: Munster, The Money Pit Province 2019/2020

Postby Oldschool » November 11th, 2019, 10:13 am

ronk wrote:Coming pretty close to a joker at outhalf. A bit close to the HC to do anything though.

Tyler is there and Scannell is a good option. After that it's Healy or moving Cronin. They were probably going for a 6-2 bench anyway so no biggie for now.

Leinster have been down Frawley and Sexton for most of the season so far, but we have options because Harry Byrne has been getting a run.

With Matheson about to leave (after round 2?) they could look for a medical Joker at OH.
It will have to be done quickly unless Matheson can play OH.
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Re: Munster, The Money Pit Province 2019/2020

Postby tomthefan » November 11th, 2019, 12:08 pm

ronk wrote:Coming pretty close to a joker at outhalf. A bit close to the HC to do anything though.

Tyler is there and Scannell is a good option. After that it's Healy or moving Cronin. They were probably going for a 6-2 bench anyway so no biggie for now.

Leinster have been down Frawley and Sexton for most of the season so far, but we have options because Harry Byrne has been getting a run.


Munster might be borrowing Harry Byrne as a medical joker according to Gavin in the IT today, bit worrying to be considering someone so inexperienced
for the Heinken Cup though. Hope he's not as easily crocked as Joey at least!
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Re: Munster, The Money Pit Province 2019/2020

Postby leinsterforever » November 11th, 2019, 2:17 pm

tomthefan wrote:
ronk wrote:Coming pretty close to a joker at outhalf. A bit close to the HC to do anything though.

Tyler is there and Scannell is a good option. After that it's Healy or moving Cronin. They were probably going for a 6-2 bench anyway so no biggie for now.

Leinster have been down Frawley and Sexton for most of the season so far, but we have options because Harry Byrne has been getting a run.


Munster might be borrowing Harry Byrne as a medical joker according to Gavin in the IT today, bit worrying to be considering someone so inexperienced
for the Heinken Cup though. Hope he's not as easily crocked as Joey at least!


Ah, I'd say it's just Cummiskey speculating, or possibly van Graan messing around in response to Leinster sniffing around Casey. At least, I hope it's that, cos it would make very little sense. Why would Munster want to parachute Byrne in when they've their own guy at a similar development stage already training with them? Do the academy players train with the senior squad at Munster? Lancaster mentioned that as one of the best things for development, and Lam did it at Connacht.
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Re: Munster, The Money Pit Province 2019/2020

Postby ronk » November 11th, 2019, 4:32 pm

tomthefan wrote:. Hope he's not as easily crocked as Joey at least!


Joey didn't get injured much playing for us...
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Re: Munster, The Money Pit Province 2019/2020

Postby Oldschool » November 11th, 2019, 5:29 pm

When the draw for the HCC pools was made, Munster looked to have got a very tough draw.
However recent events would appear to have changed that situation quite dramatically.
Ospreys are playing like drains at the moment and are likely to be unable to turn that around before Christmas.
Racing aren't exactly pulling up trees in the TOP14 either, lying 10th as I post but no doubt affected to some extent by the RWC.
Saracens are the big "surprise", cough, cough.
Their coach has said they'll be prioritizing the PRL over the HCC and it's the logical thing to do financially.
That doesn't mean they'll throw in the towel but we might see more rotation for some of their HCC matches.
A lot will depend on their RWC returnees, whom, come to think of it, will be quite late returning from Japan, which is far from ideal.
All of the above and Munster being Munster suggests that Munster have a decent chance of reaching the QFs again.
A lot will depend on the size of the final points deduction Saracens receive.
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Re: Munster, The Money Pit Province 2019/2020

Postby Angelsea Angst » November 12th, 2019, 8:58 am

If Harry Byrne does go to Munster on a 'temporary basis' , I doubt that he will ever return to Leinster. We would be told that he really loves the culture of Munster Rugby and that he would hate to leave. Was there not a suggestion at one time that Joey's move was to be 'temporary ' ?
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Re: Munster, The Money Pit Province 2019/2020

Postby Dave Cahill » November 12th, 2019, 9:58 am

Angelsea Angst wrote: Was there not a suggestion at one time that Joey's move was to be 'temporary ' ?


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Re: Munster, The Money Pit Province 2019/2020

Postby ronk » November 12th, 2019, 1:28 pm

Dave Cahill wrote:
Angelsea Angst wrote: Was there not a suggestion at one time that Joey's move was to be 'temporary ' ?


Nope.


For the sake of 1 match (that we lost anyway) they directly affected approx 10 years of a guys career and Leinster's use of a potential franchise player for the same period.

Leinster have to plan a new replacement for Sexton (or Kearney), Munster tossed their brightest star at 10 for years on the scrapheap and the IRFU broke the improved coordination between provinces over the last 10 years.
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