Welsh Rugby 2013/2014

[JB1973]

Anscombe to Cardiff is official now, safe to say he will play 10 for them

Only moving after ITM cup so might make it difficult/exhausting for him to go straight into November internationals 3 weeks later, or less if he he has playoffs

Cardiff might make European places now, good 1st XV but no bench/depth and Welsh squad call ups will hurt them badly

Looks like the new PA agreement is all but done as well, so Warburton will be back in their squad.

This is on Saturday should be a good watch, on S4C and BT sport if anyone has access to either

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugb ... 14-7475397


part of the money raised is going to owen Williams so hope it's a bumper crowd

[simonokeeffe]

Anscombe to Cardiff is official now, safe to say he will play 10 for them

Only moving after ITM cup so might make it difficult/exhausting for him to go straight into November internationals 3 weeks later, or less if he he has playoffs

Cardiff might make European places now, good 1st XV but no bench/depth and Welsh squad call ups will hurt them badly

Looks like the new PA agreement is all but done as well, so Warburton will be back in their squad.

This is on Saturday should be a good watch, on S4C and BT sport if anyone has access to either

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugb ... 14-7475397


part of the money raised is going to owen Williams so hope it's a bumper crowd

any leaks on the PA?

[JB1973]

Anscombe to Cardiff is official now, safe to say he will play 10 for them

Only moving after ITM cup so might make it difficult/exhausting for him to go straight into November internationals 3 weeks later, or less if he he has playoffs

Cardiff might make European places now, good 1st XV but no bench/depth and Welsh squad call ups will hurt them badly

Looks like the new PA agreement is all but done as well, so Warburton will be back in their squad.

This is on Saturday should be a good watch, on S4C and BT sport if anyone has access to either

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugb ... 14-7475397


part of the money raised is going to owen Williams so hope it's a bumper crowd

any leaks on the PA?

I think there hoping will all be sorted within a month, and then give Roger Lewis a while to bask in the glory of being the peace maker, before he leaves with head held high and the WRU get someone in that the regions feel they can work with.

I think both partys realise they have to reach an agreement now, the regions are skint and the WRU can't have next to no access to their players in a world cup year.

[Donny B.]

Someone's playing silly buggers here:

http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,2588 ... 55,00.html

Controversy has surrounded Friday's LV= Cup fixture announcement after the opening round was scheduled to collide with Guinness PRO12 games.

Ospreys, Dragons, Scarlets and Cardiff Blues are down to face Connacht, Ulster, Zebre and Munster when the Cup starts on October 31-November 2.

And that has left LV= Cup organisers the Rugby Football Union having to release a statement saying that they are aware of the problem.

"The WRU is currently in negotiations with the regions regarding the Participation Agreement for the upcoming season," read the statement, with a reason for the fixture clash not yet given.

"Once those negotiations have concluded, they will address the potential clash for Welsh clubs in Round 1 of the LV= Cup, the dates of which were agreed by all LV= Cup stakeholders back in April."

[simonokeeffe]

Someone's playing silly buggers here:

http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,2588 ... 55,00.html

Controversy has surrounded Friday's LV= Cup fixture announcement after the opening round was scheduled to collide with Guinness PRO12 games.

Ospreys, Dragons, Scarlets and Cardiff Blues are down to face Connacht, Ulster, Zebre and Munster when the Cup starts on October 31-November 2.

And that has left LV= Cup organisers the Rugby Football Union having to release a statement saying that they are aware of the problem.

"The WRU is currently in negotiations with the regions regarding the Participation Agreement for the upcoming season," read the statement, with a reason for the fixture clash not yet given.

"Once those negotiations have concluded, they will address the potential clash for Welsh clubs in Round 1 of the LV= Cup, the dates of which were agreed by all LV= Cup stakeholders back in April."

pro12 fixtures were announced weeks ago, major error by RFU in not realising/caring/noticing/changing

LV Cup always been a secondary competition so worst comes to worst (especially with euro qualification) theyd send first choice available panel to league game

*update* RFU said fixtures agreed last April so WRFU messed up according to them

[baaba maal]

It can't be just an oversight- this has to be some ridiculous power play by the Welsh clubs (again).

[Xanthippe]

It can't be just an oversight- this has to be some ridiculous power play by the Welsh clubs (again).

Back in April didn't RRW still think they were going to be welcomed into the Premiership with open arms because they'd managed to damage/destroy the Pro12 by leaving? So then they would have believed that they, along with all the other Premiership teams, would have that weekend off!!!

I've seen several people suggesting that the last weekend in October/first weekend in November is normally a weekend off for the Pro12 but for at least the past 5 years we've had a game on the weekend that falls between October 26th and November 4th.

[Vamos los azules]

It can't be just an oversight- this has to be some ridiculous power play by the Welsh clubs (again).

Back in April didn't RRW still think they were going to be welcomed into the Premiership with open arms because they'd managed to damage/destroy the Pro12 by leaving? So then they would have believed that they, along with all the other Premiership teams, would have that weekend off!!!

I've seen several people suggesting that the last weekend in October/first weekend in November is normally a weekend off for the Pro12 but for at least the past 5 years we've had a game on the weekend that falls between October 26th and November 4th.

Is there a particular reason why the 2 leagues aren't holding the same rounds on the same weekends this season? They certainly have matched up the past couple of seasons, in fact probably since the Italian teams came in and both leagues became 12.

[Donny B.]

It can't be just an oversight- this has to be some ridiculous power play by the Welsh clubs (again).

You wouldn't put it past these morons!

[paddyor]

It can't be just an oversight- this has to be some ridiculous power play by the Welsh clubs (again).

Back in April didn't RRW still think they were going to be welcomed into the Premiership with open arms because they'd managed to damage/destroy the Pro12 by leaving? So then they would have believed that they, along with all the other Premiership teams, would have that weekend off!!!

I've seen several people suggesting that the last weekend in October/first weekend in November is normally a weekend off for the Pro12 but for at least the past 5 years we've had a game on the weekend that falls between October 26th and November 4th.

The WRU are the ones who organized the fixtures according to Simon Thomas on twitter. The Pro12 fixtures are pretty much the same weekends as last as far as I can tell. I think this is just a simple f*ck up.

[rooster]

The thing is the LV is supposed to be for the equivalent of our A sides and the PRL clubs more or less stick to that but the Welsh like to run almost full sides so to play in the LV and PRO12 the same weekend is similar to HEC weekends and the B&I

[rooster]

The WRU are the ones who organized the fixtures according to Simon Thomas on twitter. The Pro12 fixtures are pretty much the same weekends as last as far as I can tell. I think this is just a simple f*ck up.

The Welsh are just a simple f*ck up !

[JB1973]

It can't be just an oversight- this has to be some ridiculous power play by the Welsh clubs (again).

Back in April didn't RRW still think they were going to be welcomed into the Premiership with open arms because they'd managed to damage/destroy the Pro12 by leaving? So then they would have believed that they, along with all the other Premiership teams, would have that weekend off!!!

I've seen several people suggesting that the last weekend in October/first weekend in November is normally a weekend off for the Pro12 but for at least the past 5 years we've had a game on the weekend that falls between October 26th and November 4th.

The WRU are the ones who organized the fixtures according to Simon Thomas on twitter. The Pro12 fixtures are pretty much the same weekends as last as far as I can tell. I think this is just a simple f*ck up.

can't see the WRU don't have the power to tell the PRL and the rfu when to playa cup contest and what dates to make the fixtures.

The welsh sides don't field anything like our best xv in these cups (well unless we make the ko stages) it is very much a development tournament.

btw the regional sevens was a bit of a waste of time and my side were woeful and frankly embarrassed themselves

[offshorerules]

One report I read said they butchered a 3 on 0 overlap. Oh dear.

[JB1973]

One report I read said they butchered a 3 on 0 overlap. Oh dear.

that was in the commonwealth games, wales raced to a 19-0 lead vs the aussies, aussies came back to 19-14 wales with 1 minute left on the clock had a 3 on 1 and blew it.

Aussies turned us over and scored a try in injury time under the posts, (where have we seen that before)

the inter regionals sevens were rubbish, we managed to concede 61 points to the scarlets in 14 minutes of rugby!

pathetic

[offshorerules]

Still Oh dear.

[Vamos los azules]

One report I read said they butchered a 3 on 0 overlap. Oh dear.

that was in the commonwealth games, wales raced to a 19-0 lead vs the aussies, aussies came back to 19-14 wales with 1 minute left on the clock had a 3 on 1 and blew it.

Aussies turned us over and scored a try in injury time under the posts, (where have we seen that before)

I was quite fascinated by the Commonwealth 7s teams' similarities to their respective 15s sides. Wales perfecting the art of last gasp defeats against the Aussies, England giving away penalties like they're going out of fashion and lacking pace and flair, Scotland shuffling the ball from side to side and getting nowhere fast a lot of the time, Australia blowing hot and cold, Kiwis looking like the air of invincibility is slipping and SA with some potent strike forces who will punish the slightest lapse in concentration.

I know the crowd will be a bit different in Rio but I think 7s could be a big success as an Olympic sport.

[JB1973]

the knock out stages were very entertaining, the crowd got right into it which did help. Will be interesting to see if the Olympic sides stick with the sevens experts or draft in the big names from the 15 a side game.

Will the IRB insist all the big sides release their top players for it?

a welsh seven of Cuthbert north hook davies g warburton faletua and turpic would be very exciting to see

[offshorerules]

I thought 7s was becoming so specialised that it more or less rules that out.

[simonokeeffe]

the knock out stages were very entertaining, the crowd got right into it which did help. Will be interesting to see if the Olympic sides stick with the sevens experts or draft in the big names from the 15 a side game.

Will the IRB insist all the big sides release their top players for it?

a welsh seven of Cuthbert north hook davies g warburton faletua and turpic would be very exciting to see

its in the rules that players must be released for IRB endorsed 7s just like world cup training or internationals

think there was just an entent cordiale over participation between unions and clubs (and players) so far