Players In/Out 14/15 (other league teams)

[simonokeeffe]

will update this as we go

Connacht

In: McCartney 2, Aki 12, Porter 9, O'Leary 10/12/13, Muliaina 15, Cooney 9, Roux 5, Adeolokun 14
Out: Wilkinson 1, Griffin 12, Tonetti 12/13, Parks 10, Duffy 15, Murphy 9, POD 9, Nolan 5, Rael 2, Conneely 7, Murphy 13, Clarke 5

Munster

In: Copeland 8, Kelly 1, Smith 13, Tyler Durden 10/12
Out: Laulala 13, Nagle 5, Ronan 7, Downey 12, Coughlan 8

Ulster

In: Murphy 1, Herbst 1/3, Ryan 3, Van Der Merwe 4, iHumph 10, Ludik 15, Butterworth 7, Reidy 7
Out: Court 1, Afoa 3, Muller 4, Annet 2, Farrell 13, Macklin 3, McKinney 10, McAllister 1, Doyle 7, McIlwaine 11, Wallace 12, Cochrane 14, Porter 9, Ferris 6

Treviso

In: Auva'a 8, Christie 10, Carlisle 12, Harden 1
Out (19): DiMarchi 2, Cittadini 3, McClean 15, Vosawai 8, Ghiraldini 2, Barbieri 7, Botes 10, Williams 15, Loamanu 11, Rizzo 1, van Zyl 5, Di Bernardo 10, Bernabò 4, Berquist 10, Ceccato 2, Di Santo, Semenzato 9, Rouyet 3

Zebre

In: Bernini, Besegni, Haimona, Ferreria 4, Daniller 15
Out: Ryan 3, Perugini 1, Buso 10, Cattina, Cazzola, Quartaroli 12, Ratuvou 14,Trevisan 15, van Vuuren 8


Edinburgh

In: Cochrane 2, Tait 14, Dell 3, Andress 3. Heathcote 10, Bresler 5
Out (22): Lawrie 2, Cairns 13, Laidlaw 9, van der Westhuizen 4, Cross 3, Cox 5, Francis 10, Hunter 10, Leonard 10, De Luca 13, Rennie 7, Allan 1/3, Jones 12, Atiga 13, Basilia 8, Parker 4, Leck 9, Niven 3, Black, Walker 2, McAlpine 5, Lutui 2, Yapp 3

Glasgow

In: Allan 1/3, Murray 3, Downey 12, De Klerk 3
Out: Low 3, Cussiter 9, Jackson 10, McGuigan 13/14, Kalman 3, Wight 10, Gillies 2, Ascarte 13, Isles 11

Cardiff

In: Mitchell 3, Jones 6, Watkins 14, Knoyle 9, Turnbull 6, Hoeata 5, Vosawai 8, Anscombe 10
Out: Pretorious 6, Halfpenny 15, Copeland 8, B Davies 4, G Davies, Czekaj 11, Robinson 14, Hamilton 6, Borrust 3, Walker 9, Tuifua 13, Down 4

Dragons

In: Brew 11, Byrne 15, Buckely 2, Stankovich 1, Gough 4, Young 1, Landman 5, Fairbrother 3, Powell 8, Harris 3
Out: Jones 6, Harries 15, Hughes 13, Parry 2, Evans 15, Tuilagi 13, Jones 10, Sidoli 5, Groves 6, Burton 10

Ospreys

In: Parry 2, Evans 15, Matavesi 12, Bernardo 4/5, G Thomas 1, Griffiths 1
Out: Evans 4, Hibbard 2, Rees 15, Morgan 10, R Jones 8, Isaacs 13, Jones 3

Scarlets

In: Robinson 14, King 13, Pitman 8, Haluifia 8, Edwards 1, Tagicakibau 14
Out: Turnbull 6, A Thomas 10, J Davies 13, Manu 3, Barkley 10/12, Timani 4, G Thomas, Reynolds 12

[LeRouxIsPHat]

That is very depressing reading.

[simonokeeffe]

That is very depressing reading.

Only if you're an Ulster, Ospreys, Blues, Treviso, Edinburgh, Glasgow or Munster fan

Connacht seem to be the only side recruiting well so far, have a feeling Zebre might recruit well

[Morf]

That is very depressing reading.

Only if you're an Ulster, Ospreys, Blues, Treviso, Edinburgh, Glasgow or Munster fan

Connacht seem to be the only side recruiting well so far, have a feeling Zebre might recruit well

Cardiff aren't doing that bad apart from losing 1/2p.

Umm checked again. Hoeata is probably below Davies level at lock but plays 6 too and I know the name Tuifua but can't place it.

Yeah it's all gone to sh!t.

[MadiganSquareGarden]

The way things are going I can see Connacht making the top 6 next season. This league would be in serious bother without Glasgow's improvement in recent years and it would be just if they reached a Pro 12 final this year. Edinburgh and the Italian sides are beyond desperate, and there just doesn't appear to be enough depth in Welsh rugby to cushion so many of the top players absconding to France and England. This whole league is in a delicate place, and hopefully the Sky coverage and a new sponsorship deal can give it the shot in the arm it needs.

[LeRouxIsPHat]

Fair enough you'd expect the teams who are bleeding players to announce some signings soon but even then it's hard to see many of the teams reaching the required standard.

[Leoslovechild]

I think Dragons have recruited very well indeed and will push all the other Welsh clubs for that top Welsh spot

[Donny B.]

The rush from Wales and Scotland to English clubs is depressing reading alright for the overall quality of the league.

The French have already taken their best and now the English are taking the rest.

[Vamos los azules]

The rush from Wales and Scotland to English clubs is depressing reading alright for the overall quality of the league.

The French have already taken their best and now the English are taking the rest.

The problem for the Pro 12 sides is that while it's a different "country" it's the same country. The Welsh players going to places like Bath, Gloucester and Bristol probably just have a longer drive to work. No paperwork/upheaval beyond the usual changing of jobs and the wife and children face no disruption to their lives.

[Donny B.]

The rush from Wales and Scotland to English clubs is depressing reading alright for the overall quality of the league.

The French have already taken their best and now the English are taking the rest.

The problem for the Pro 12 sides is that while it's a different "country" it's the same country. The Welsh players going to places like Bath, Gloucester and Bristol probably just have a longer drive to work. No paperwork/upheaval beyond the usual changing of jobs and the wife and children face no disruption to their lives.

Yep, true dat.

[domhnallj]

The rush from Wales and Scotland to English clubs is depressing reading alright for the overall quality of the league.

The French have already taken their best and now the English are taking the rest.

The problem for the Pro 12 sides is that while it's a different "country" it's the same country. The Welsh players going to places like Bath, Gloucester and Bristol probably just have a longer drive to work. No paperwork/upheaval beyond the usual changing of jobs and the wife and children face no disruption to their lives.

Didn't Dwayne Peel cite the need for a different style of life and culture as being his rationale for moving to Manchester?

[simonokeeffe]

That is very depressing reading.

Only if you're an Ulster, Ospreys, Blues, Treviso, Edinburgh, Glasgow or Munster fan

Connacht seem to be the only side recruiting well so far, have a feeling Zebre might recruit well

Cardiff aren't doing that bad apart from losing 1/2p.

Umm checked again. Hoeata is probably below Davies level at lock but plays 6 too and I know the name Tuifua but can't place it.

Yeah it's all gone to sh!t.

Cardiff losing their only good goalkicker, their main ball carrier/backrower, his backup, best lock, and am expecting Filise to retire on age grounds
Tuifua was mid season signing made permanent at 13, doing well

Dragons doing ok, the 2 guys they are losing are good though

[cormac]

You can add Franco vd Merwe to the list of Ulster 'ins' for next season. They're also signing Louis Ludik from Agen and bringing back iHumph, by all accounts.

[simonokeeffe]

You can add Franco vd Merwe to the list of Ulster 'ins' for next season. They're also signing Louis Ludik from Agen and bringing back iHumph, by all accounts.

I'm being hardcore on the integrity front and only doing confirmed ones, so unless you have a link

otherwise the Treviso players out part would go on for days

[hugonaut]

Franco van der Merwe to Ulster:

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/rugby-union/27150308

[simonokeeffe]

Franco van der Merwe to Ulster:

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/rugby-union/27150308

McAllister out

[Morf]

Franco van der Merwe to Ulster:

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/rugby-union/27150308

McAllister out

MOC has a monopoly on that.

[simonokeeffe]

Franco van der Merwe to Ulster:

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/rugby-union/27150308

McAllister out

MOC has a monopoly on that.

Parker brothers out

[simonokeeffe]

a few updates
Edinburgh leading exodus with 11 players out

[cormac]

Connacht Players Out:

Brett Wilkinson (retired)
Gavin Duffy
Frank Murphy
Eoin Griffin (London Irish)
Paul O’Donohoe
Dan Parks
Kyle Tonetti (retired)
Aaron Conneely
Brian Murphy
Dave Nolan
James Rael.