Munster 2014/2015

[rooster]

Sometimes if people knew all the facts about some of these "hunting" expeditions they would understand what really happens.
In a closed game reserve there is not the same natural culling out of some species as the eco system is not in balance and at that stage management have to take the decision to cull some animals themselves to restore the balance, now they have 2 options, firstly cull them with their own staff and secondly let paying customers kill them. The second option makes financial sense as it pays wages for gamekeepers and other staff who help cut down on poaching on species such as rhinos and elephants.

Now I am not saying this is the case in all these hunts but it is a very common occurrence, I even know 2 large estates here in Ireland that use it as a means of income and maintaining the correct balance in male/female and stocking capacity in deer.
The most infamous mess of such hunting/culling was when the powers that be decided to ban deer hunting in Scotland in areas, result overstock combined with a bad winter after a couple of years and they had to bring in marksmen for a massive cull of starving deer, and a damaged ecosystem that took years to rebalance.

[Morf]

Sometimes if people knew all the facts about some of these "hunting" expeditions they would understand what really happens.
In a closed game reserve there is not the same natural culling out of some species as the eco system is not in balance and at that stage management have to take the decision to cull some animals themselves to restore the balance, now they have 2 options, firstly cull them with their own staff and secondly let paying customers kill them. The second option makes financial sense as it pays wages for gamekeepers and other staff who help cut down on poaching on species such as rhinos and elephants.

Now I am not saying this is the case in all these hunts but it is a very common occurrence, I even know 2 large estates here in Ireland that use it as a means of income and maintaining the correct balance in male/female and stocking capacity in deer.
The most infamous mess of such hunting/culling was when the powers that be decided to ban deer hunting in Scotland in areas, result overstock combined with a bad winter after a couple of years and they had to bring in marksmen for a massive cull of starving deer, and a damaged ecosystem that took years to rebalance.

Or wolves . . . they look a lot better than rich people with guns.

[rooster]

Sometimes if people knew all the facts about some of these "hunting" expeditions they would understand what really happens.
In a closed game reserve there is not the same natural culling out of some species as the eco system is not in balance and at that stage management have to take the decision to cull some animals themselves to restore the balance, now they have 2 options, firstly cull them with their own staff and secondly let paying customers kill them. The second option makes financial sense as it pays wages for gamekeepers and other staff who help cut down on poaching on species such as rhinos and elephants.

Now I am not saying this is the case in all these hunts but it is a very common occurrence, I even know 2 large estates here in Ireland that use it as a means of income and maintaining the correct balance in male/female and stocking capacity in deer.
The most infamous mess of such hunting/culling was when the powers that be decided to ban deer hunting in Scotland in areas, result overstock combined with a bad winter after a couple of years and they had to bring in marksmen for a massive cull of starving deer, and a damaged ecosystem that took years to rebalance.

Or wolves . . . they look a lot better than rich people with guns.

Then again that is an idea but mans introduction of new species to a region has caused lots of problems before, and which is actually more humane, getting your throat ripped or shot with a high powered rifle ?

By the way I have an open mind for both pro and anti hunting and always look at the bigger picture and reasoning behind it from both sides and generally a lot of people who make the most noise don't really understand the implications to ecology of an area by artificially changing the balance of nature and sometimes culling has to be done to rebalance it again.

[Morf]

Then again that is an idea but mans introduction of new species to a region has caused lots of problems before, and which is actually more humane, getting your throat ripped or shot with a high powered rifle ?

By the way I have an open mind for both pro and anti hunting and always look at the bigger picture and reasoning behind it from both sides and generally a lot of people who make the most noise don't really understand the implications to ecology of an area by artificially changing the balance of nature and sometimes culling has to be done to rebalance it again.

True. Reintroduction would no doubt have many issues even if done well.

I never meant to suggest you were biased in a certain way.

My only issue was with the clamour around hunting for sport/trophy hunting. People are primed to feel outrage about something these days. Social media has conditioned them to need a fix for outrage porn.

[offshorerules]

Then again that is an idea but mans introduction of new species to a region has caused lots of problems before, and which is actually more humane, getting your throat ripped or shot with a high powered rifle ?

By the way I have an open mind for both pro and anti hunting and always look at the bigger picture and reasoning behind it from both sides and generally a lot of people who make the most noise don't really understand the implications to ecology of an area by artificially changing the balance of nature and sometimes culling has to be done to rebalance it again.

True. Reintroduction would no doubt have many issues even if done well.

I never meant to suggest you were biased in a certain way.

My only issue was with the clamour around hunting for sport/trophy hunting. People are primed to feel outrage about something these days. Social media has conditioned them to need a fix for outrage porn.

I'm outraged about social media!

[rooster]

Then again that is an idea but mans introduction of new species to a region has caused lots of problems before, and which is actually more humane, getting your throat ripped or shot with a high powered rifle ?

By the way I have an open mind for both pro and anti hunting and always look at the bigger picture and reasoning behind it from both sides and generally a lot of people who make the most noise don't really understand the implications to ecology of an area by artificially changing the balance of nature and sometimes culling has to be done to rebalance it again.

True. Reintroduction would no doubt have many issues even if done well.

I never meant to suggest you were biased in a certain way.

My only issue was with the clamour around hunting for sport/trophy hunting. People are primed to feel outrage about something these days. Social media has conditioned them to need a fix for outrage porn.

True that social media is a big problem in all of this and at the same time people should think before they post pictures like that then again you would probably have difficulty actually finding a SA player who had not been on a hunt but most don't publicise it widely, it's just a way of life over there.
There are far bigger outrages out there at present, most of the middle east for a start, ebola in west Africa and closer to home, well let's stay clear of those ones !

[simonokeeffe]

am firmly anti hunting for sport but this has to be put up

[rooster]

am firmly anti hunting for sport but this has to be put up

Was terrible going out shooting the last triceratops after he had finished filming

[fourthirtythree]

Triceratops were a scourge, an absolute scourge. Glad he got rid of the last one.

[LeRouxIsPHat]

Come to think of it, an awful lot of his films end up with people being shot or disappearing...I mean has anyone seen ET since? This guy has been hiding in plain sight for years!!

[offshorerules]

Come to think of it, an awful lot of his films end up with people being shot or disappearing...I mean has anyone seen ET since? This guy has been hiding in plain sight for years!!

He's alive and well married to Chewbacca's sister and living in Kells.

[simonokeeffe]

Come to think of it, an awful lot of his films end up with people being shot or disappearing...I mean has anyone seen ET since? This guy has been hiding in plain sight for years!!

He's alive and well married to Chewbacca's sister and living in Kells.

Hector?

[Donny B.]

http://thescore.thejournal.ie/munster-m ... 2-Aug2014/

More bad news for Sherry

[simonokeeffe]

when you read through it theyll be so short on hookers for some pre season games they might have to re sign Frankie

[hugonaut]

http://thescore.thejournal.ie/munster-m ... 2-Aug2014/

More bad news for Sherry

Jesus, that's rotten luck for the guy.

That will be his third six-month injury break in the last three seasons: he picked up an ankle injury in late September 2011 that kept him out of rugby until he injured his shoulder on his comeback for Garryowen, and only came back for Munster in March 2012; then he ruptured his ACL in November of 2013, had surgery for that, had a surgery on his shoulder in January of this year during the layoff for his knee injury and now another surgery on his shoulder. Lot of sympathy for him.

[offshorerules]

Also bad news foe earls who is out for a month with a knee injury. I think that leaves Munster pretty bare on the wing too.

[Donny B.]

Also bad news foe earls who is out for a month with a knee injury. I think that leaves Munster pretty bare on the wing too.

Earls is another player having a lousy run of it over the last few seasons.

[Alternative Ulster]

Step forward Andrew Conway....

[fourthirtythree]

Step forward Andrew Conway....

He was getting going at the end of last season and there are quite a few down south that think he may well shine this year.

[ceemec]

Sherry is someone whose career is slipping away a little following his early promise. If he's out for another 6 months, he'll only return in the spring leaving him a few months of the season. He's someone that was always a thought of as a young player but he'll be pushing 27 on his return. Unfortunately for him, Munster have a conveyor belt of hookers and this absence could do real damage to his career.

On the plus side, Duncan Casey has looked every bit as good and potentially better. Niall Scannell could possibly get a bit more game time also in the coming months which would be great for his development.