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Peg Leg wrote:offshorerules wrote:There appears to be a bit of a backlash at the moment on various social media outlets about Northampton's dealing of the North incidents against Leicester last week with many people accusing them of changing their story. I have only just viewed the incident but it struck me that he didn't come down on his head, nor did there appear to any major whiplash involved. So maybe this is somewhat reckless for me to suggest but could North have faked injury looking to get the other player sent off? Just the whole thing reminds me of bloodgate.
His head hits the ground... whiplash not required for concussion. Stopping suddenly/instantly is enough.
offshorerules wrote:Peg Leg wrote:offshorerules wrote:There appears to be a bit of a backlash at the moment on various social media outlets about Northampton's dealing of the North incidents against Leicester last week with many people accusing them of changing their story. I have only just viewed the incident but it struck me that he didn't come down on his head, nor did there appear to any major whiplash involved. So maybe this is somewhat reckless for me to suggest but could North have faked injury looking to get the other player sent off? Just the whole thing reminds me of bloodgate.
His head hits the ground... whiplash not required for concussion. Stopping suddenly/instantly is enough.
Happy to accept that but I just think if he was concussed he wouldn't or perhaps shouldn't have passed the HIA.
simonokeeffe wrote:No but prem rules are they/the processes are all independently reviewed to make sure protocols followed
jezzer wrote:Just watching that Earls tackle again, which is embedded in the Indo article above and I can now see what Earls was on about.
I think Fraser ducks his head and shoulder and falls to make it look like a tip tackle that it didn't have to be. Earls is asking for it a bit by lifting the guys leg, but there's more than a whiff of simulation from it when you rewatch it.
Oldschoolsocks wrote:jezzer wrote:Just watching that Earls tackle again, which is embedded in the Indo article above and I can now see what Earls was on about.
I think Fraser ducks his head and shoulder and falls to make it look like a tip tackle that it didn't have to be. Earls is asking for it a bit by lifting the guys leg, but there's more than a whiff of simulation from it when you rewatch it.
Can't agree with that Jezzer, I don't reckon there's long enough or brown to decide to simulate a tip tackle, it looks like a natural move,ent to turn so the hall comes back on his own side.
jezzer wrote:Just watching that Earls tackle again, which is embedded in the Indo article above and I can now see what Earls was on about.
I think Fraser ducks his head and shoulder and falls to make it look like a tip tackle that it didn't have to be. Earls is asking for it a bit by lifting the guys leg, but there's more than a whiff of simulation from it when you rewatch it.
jezzer wrote:Just watching that Earls tackle again, which is embedded in the Indo article above and I can now see what Earls was on about.
I think Fraser ducks his head and shoulder and falls to make it look like a tip tackle that it didn't have to be. Earls is asking for it a bit by lifting the guys leg, but there's more than a whiff of simulation from it when you rewatch it.
Peg Leg wrote:simonokeeffe wrote:No but prem rules are they/the processes are all independently reviewed to make sure protocols followed
Yeah and tomorrow I have an ISO audit I've know about for 2 months, all of our processes are in perfect order...... today
LeRouxIsPHat wrote:jezzer wrote:Just watching that Earls tackle again, which is embedded in the Indo article above and I can now see what Earls was on about.
I think Fraser ducks his head and shoulder and falls to make it look like a tip tackle that it didn't have to be. Earls is asking for it a bit by lifting the guys leg, but there's more than a whiff of simulation from it when you rewatch it.
Tbh I'd say the exact opposite. When you get flipped over like that you're so conscious of landing on your head/neck that you try and tuck them in so they don't take the impact. In the end I'm not sure he would have landed badly if he hadn't done that, but you don't wait and take the impact first.
brenno wrote:Listened to Cudmore last night and if everything he says is true then Clermont have an awful lot to answer for - brought into a kangaroo court where Clermont GM, head coach and 2 or 3 others harangued him for besmirching the club and it's tyre company bankrollers. But then the French have history when it comes to concussion - remember that plank Noves a few years ago going into the Toulouse changing room and ordering a cleArly concussed player (Fritz?) back on to the pitch. Then after the game comes out with cr@p like. "I took loads of bands on the head when I was a player and it didn't do me any harm"
Cudmore has always been a pantomime villain but he came across very well last night, and was even quite funny about his famous run-in with POC a few years ago.
brenno wrote:Listened to Cudmore last night and if everything he says is true then Clermont have an awful lot to answer for - brought into a kangaroo court where Clermont GM, head coach and 2 or 3 others harangued him for besmirching the club and it's tyre company bankrollers. But then the French have history when it comes to concussion - remember that plank Noves a few years ago going into the Toulouse changing room and ordering a cleArly concussed player (Fritz?) back on to the pitch. Then after the game comes out with cr@p like. "I took loads of bands on the head when I was a player and it didn't do me any harm"
Cudmore has always been a pantomime villain but he came across very well last night, and was even quite funny about his famous run-in with POC a few years ago.
Munsterboy wrote:brenno wrote:Listened to Cudmore last night and if everything he says is true then Clermont have an awful lot to answer for - brought into a kangaroo court where Clermont GM, head coach and 2 or 3 others harangued him for besmirching the club and it's tyre company bankrollers. But then the French have history when it comes to concussion - remember that plank Noves a few years ago going into the Toulouse changing room and ordering a cleArly concussed player (Fritz?) back on to the pitch. Then after the game comes out with cr@p like. "I took loads of bands on the head when I was a player and it didn't do me any harm"
Cudmore has always been a pantomime villain but he came across very well last night, and was even quite funny about his famous run-in with POC a few years ago.
French rugby is stuck in the past in some ways. Their attitude to things like gouging has been pretty slow to change too.
Had some contact with Jamie Cudmore last year when I was fundraising on behalf of a mate of mine who had played with him for Canada. He was an absolute gent.
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