Munster 2015/2016

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Only supporters of teams without a good tradition 7 claim you don't need a traditional 7.

Corrected that for you.

[simonokeeffe]

Only teams without a good tradition 7 claim you don't need a traditional 7.

Well munster, Leinster and Ireland have shown that you don't need a traditional 7.

Your statement makes no sense really? Have you heard many teams talk about the need for a traditional 7?

Ireland only got away it with by having the 2 best poaching centres

[munster#1]

Only teams without a good tradition 7 claim you don't need a traditional 7.

Well munster, Leinster and Ireland have shown that you don't need a traditional 7.

Your statement makes no sense really? Have you heard many teams talk about the need for a traditional 7?

Ireland only got away it with by having the 2 best poaching centres[/qquote

That in itself is proof that you do not have to have a traditional 7 to be successful.

Also worth noting that Ireland have won a 6 nations without those centres

[simonokeeffe]

yes but with 7s who are really good at the breakdown in SOB & Henry

best of luck with playing 3 no8s because Dennis Hurley has that covered

[munster#1]

yes but with 7s who are really good at the breakdown in SOB & Henry

best of luck with playing 3 no8s because Dennis Hurley has that covered

I am a massive Sob fan, and believe he is one of the best rugby players in the world, but Sob is not even related to a traditional 7, and is rarely used in that role.

Ireland do not need him to be, as we have best, Heaslip and pom who are very good at the breakdown. This allows us to keep Sob a lot looser that a traditional 7 would be.

With henry on the field, you generally see pom and Heaslip playing a lot more in the open, as he is a much better 7 than Sob.
This does not mean better player before I get attacked.

At munster we have a load of 6s and 8s but sadly only one 7. This is where varley will be missed as he was great at the breakdown.

[Peg Leg]

Only teams without a good tradition 7 claim you don't need a traditional 7.

Well munster, Leinster and Ireland have shown that you don't need a traditional 7.

Your statement makes no sense really? Have you heard many teams talk about the need for a traditional 7?

I think we've used a traditional 7's to good effect in Gleeson & Jenno

[munster#1]

Only teams without a good tradition 7 claim you don't need a traditional 7.

Well munster, Leinster and Ireland have shown that you don't need a traditional 7.

Your statement makes no sense really? Have you heard many teams talk about the need for a traditional 7?

I think we've used a traditional 7's to good effect in Gleeson & Jenno

I never said that the teams named have never used traditional 7s, but they have had great success without them.

[simonokeeffe]

SOB started off as a seven who developed the ball carrying later on

Henry was a no8 until 3 years ago but is now seen as a traditional 7

[Peg Leg]

I think we've used a traditional 7's to good effect in Gleeson & Jenno

I never said that the teams named have never used traditional 7s, but they have had great success without them.

Sorry, what I meant was that nearly all of our success was achieved with a traditional 7.

[olaf the fat]

Christ Lads enough of the 7 debate. Starting to sound like Grizzly Adams donkey here.

[paddyor]

Johne Murphy retiring. Could prove expensive for Munster.

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Johne Murphy retiring. Could prove expensive for Munster.

Explain

[simonokeeffe]

Johne Murphy retiring. Could prove expensive for Munster.

Explain

he'd already been released, just looks like he couldnt get a good deal elsewhere or wasnt motivated by deals were on offer or he wants to concentrate on his sloppy lifeystyle (c) ExCel Foley fulltime

[paddyor]

Johne Murphy retiring. Could prove expensive for Munster.

Explain

He could sue for damages(personal & professional) or possibly constructive dismissal.

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Johne Murphy retiring. Could prove expensive for Munster.

Explain

He could sue for damages(personal & professional) or possibly constructive dismissal.

I assume you feel his personal and professional reputation was damaged by a leaked email which attributed him with a sloppy lifestyle for a professional athlete. Some sloppy play might also have damaged his professional reputation.

That would make an interesting case. Who would he sue? Munster rugby for an administrative error or maybe the person who leaked a private email into the public forum or maybe those forumites and indeed media persons who reported the contents of the email with much glee.

Was he not at the end of his contract?

[paddyor]

I assume you feel his personal and professional reputation was damaged by a leaked email which attributed him with a sloppy lifestyle for a professional athlete. Some sloppy play might also have damaged his professional reputation.

That would make an interesting case. Who would he sue? Munster rugby for an administrative error or maybe the person who leaked a private email into the public forum or maybe those forumites and indeed media persons who reported the contents of the email with much glee.

Was he not at the end of his contract?
End of contract, simple as.

The bolded part is just speculation. We can say with some certainty that his CV would look a good deal less appealing with out the spreadsheet comments tacked on with a post it. You're not allowed write references like that.

If he wanted to go after people on the internet he could but what real good would it do him, plus it would be expensive with little guarantee of there being any money on the end of it. No one IIRC in the media reported verbatim the contents of the spreadsheet. The employer is responsible for the actions of it's employees. So Munster, as they are the source of the spreadsheet. They admitted as much when the story broke and they had to report it to the data commissioner. This isn't rocket surgery.

Except this happened mid contract.

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I assume you feel his personal and professional reputation was damaged by a leaked email which attributed him with a sloppy lifestyle for a professional athlete. Some sloppy play might also have damaged his professional reputation.
assume you feel his personal and professional reputation was damaged by a leaked email which attributed him with a sloppy lifestyle for a professional athlete. Some sloppy play might also have damaged his professional reputation.
Was he not at the end of his contract?
That would make an interesting case. Who would he sue? Munster rugby for an administrative error or maybe the person who leaked a private email into the public forum or maybe those forumites and indeed media persons who reported the contents of the email with much glee.

Was he not at the end of his contract?
End of contract, simple as.

The bolded part is just speculation. We can say with some certainty that his CV would look a good deal less appealing with out the spreadsheet comments tacked on with a post it. You're not allowed write references like that.

If he wanted to go after people on the internet he could but what real good would it do him, plus it would be expensive with little guarantee of there being any money on the end of it. No one IIRC in the media reported verbatim the contents of the spreadsheet. The employer is responsible for the actions of it's employees. So Munster, as they are the source of the spreadsheet. They admitted as much when the story broke and they had to report it to the data commissioner. This isn't rocket surgery.

Except this happened mid contract.

As I said this would make an interesting case. It would be really interesting to see which solicitors firm would take it on!!!

[simonokeeffe]

pretty sure he was out of contract

[munster#1]

Really can't see there being any law suit after this. Firstly johney would have to prove that the contents if the email that was leaked to the press was not true.

Then prove that the contents of the email was the sole reason that he was not offered a contract.

While on the topic of law suits, does anyone know how reggie corrigan's case against leinster went?

[paddyor]

Really can't see there being any law suit after this. Firstly johney would have to prove that the contents if the email that was leaked to the press was not true.

Then prove that the contents of the email was the sole reason that he was not offered a contract.

While on the topic of law suits, does anyone know how reggie corrigan's case against leinster went?

No he wouldn't. It's just an opinion, not gospel from the greatest coaching ticket in the history of the game, and even if it was it wouldn't matter. That's not how it works at all. For Damages all he would have to do is prove is that them being published affected him personally and or contributed to his career suffering. He went from being the captain of the emerging Ireland team in Georgia in June (having trained with the full squad) and came back to work in August to that.

Nice whataboutery. I'd imagine it'll be settled out of court like Tomas O'Learys. . That appears to have been settled with a new contract.