Munster 2016-2017

[simonokeeffe]

Indo also saying the defence coach whose name I cant spell is also going

They dangled a red herring of saying Rassie has been told he can select whoever he wants, I'd take that to mean overseas based players, transformation is legally binding more or less

[offshorerules]

Nothing more in the papers today that I could see. I'm wondering if this is going to happen at all. Wouldn't be surprised if its a nothing story.

[LeRouxIsPHat]

Maybe but the Lions are the big story today and I thought it was interesting that Munster wouldn't comment on it yesterday.

[simonokeeffe]

Rassie leaving felt like the Mayweather McGregor fight, just constant clickbait that could never be disproven as pertained to future event

Now the fight is booked...

[Dave Cahill]

Sailli has joined 'Quins

[offshorerules]

Said it before but I think they've backed the wrong horse there. I know Taute's defence is perceived as better but he is so slow.....

[leinsterforever]

Said it before but I think they've backed the wrong horse there. I know Taute's defence is perceived as better but he is so slow.....

Maybe Farrell is good enough to be first choice and Taute made more sense than Saili as back-up

[LeRouxIsPHat]

I don't rate Saili much. He's quick off the mark and powerful but he's a headless chicken on both sides of the ball and his handling is poor. Taute is much better IMO. His season tapered off very quickly after his extension was announced but hopefully he was just wrecked, certainly showed up far better than Saili before that.

Hopefully JJ and Sam Arnold will be in the mix too. I'm a broken record about this and I'm fully aware that it won't happen, but I still reckon JJ could be a top class 12. I wish someone would sit him down and make him see sense. Not having the pressure of running the game at ten, having Taute outside him, having the likes of Kilcoyne and CJ always on hand to truck up sh!t ball, and having a really lively back three that goes looking for work in midfield could be the perfect environment for him. That's not criticism of Scannell, he's a fine player too, just think JJ's ceiling is higher.

[paddyor]

Rassie gone at eod of the month. Deal between SARU and IRFU.

[ronk]

Not great news for Munster. Hopefully they've been looking and can get someone good and fast.

[rooster]

Not great news for Munster. Hopefully they've been looking and can get someone good and fast.

They can take Kiss away from us if they like, probably even get his luggage taken down there for nothing.

[TerenureJim]

Not great news for Munster. Hopefully they've been looking and can get someone good and fast.

Hope there's been a decent exchange of a few bob here seems the least Munster deserve for this nonsense

[neiliog93]

Not great news for Munster. Hopefully they've been looking and can get someone good and fast.

Hope there's been a decent exchange of a few bob here seems the least Munster deserve for this nonsense

If he had a release clause that's very unlikely. The lesson from him and Lam is don't allow release clauses in coaches' contracts, even if that means you don't get your first choice coach.

[Ruckedtobits]

Not great news for Munster. Hopefully they've been looking and can get someone good and fast.

Hope there's been a decent exchange of a few bob here seems the least Munster deserve for this nonsense

If he had a release clause that's very unlikely. The lesson from him and Lam is don't allow release clauses in coaches' contracts, even if that means you don't get your first choice coach.

Having somebody in charge who doesn't want to be there is worse than having nobody in charge. There are good Coaches out there who will become available for the Munster job which rates highly on the world Club scene. Timing is not great but the essential aspect is not to make a panic selection.

[Ruckedtobits]

Rassie gone at eod of the month. Deal between SARU and IRFU.

This story looks circular with no hard source. Have a look at the storyline here:

www.sport24.co.za/rugby

Nothing definite but quoting Irish sources.

Why would SA want to bring in Rassie at this point when they are going so well under their new management. Venter and Smith have had a major impact with Ackerman going really well with SA "A" team going very well against French Ba Bas.

[Dave Cahill]

Why would SA want to bring in Rassie at this point when they are going so well under their new management. Venter and Smith have had a major impact with Ackerman going really well with SA "A" team going very well against French Ba Bas.

Regardless on whether the reports are true or not, its when things are going well that you try to improve things rather than try to fix something thats broken.

Plus, its a massive job - whoever has the job has to transition elite rugby in SA from a sport that concerned itself with a very insular pyramid base of, at best, 20-odd percent of the population to a real national sport that has to compete with Soccer. Its actually an amazing opportunity, you get to redefine and reinvent your sport for your country. You could see in the team that whitewashed the French that they were not as talented as previous Springbok teams, but there was an attitude there that hasn't been there in the past - national pride and patriotism in what was, perhaps for the first time ever, a South African national rugby team.

[LeRouxIsPHat]

RTB, it's not like they suddenly went for him after the test on Saturday. They've been a shambles for a while now and have clearly been after him for months.

[paddyor]

Rassie gone at eod of the month. Deal between SARU and IRFU.

This story looks circular with no hard source. Have a look at the storyline here:

http://www.sport24.co.za/rugby

Nothing definite but quoting Irish sources.

Why would SA want to bring in Rassie at this point when they are going so well under their new management. Venter and Smith have had a major impact with Ackerman going really well with SA "A" team going very well against French Ba Bas.

Theres a guy on planet rugby saying its a done deal. Seems to have his ear to the ground. Says he activated the 6 month clause and instead of having him hang on to him until Novemeber the IRFU did a deal with SARU that may include Players.

[simonokeeffe]

Why would SA want to bring in Rassie at this point when they are going so well under their new management. Venter and Smith have had a major impact with Ackerman going really well with SA "A" team going very well against French Ba Bas.

Regardless on whether the reports are true or not, its when things are going well that you try to improve things rather than try to fix something thats broken.

Plus, its a massive job - whoever has the job has to transition elite rugby in SA from a sport that concerned itself with a very insular pyramid base of, at best, 20-odd percent of the population to a real national sport that has to compete with Soccer. Its actually an amazing opportunity, you get to redefine and reinvent your sport for your country. You could see in the team that whitewashed the French that they were not as talented as previous Springbok teams, but there was an attitude there that hasn't been there in the past - national pride and patriotism in what was, perhaps for the first time ever, a South African national rugby team.

is Rassie a DOR a la Lucifora or is he the national team head coach? doing both jobs at once would be a nightmare

[Ruckedtobits]

Can understand the relevance of all the comments. Can't see that he would have any impact this Season (at international level) as DOR. Can't see that he would be given involvement with National Team this Season given how well they've started this Season.

Certainly expect he will be gone at Christmas but that gives Munster a much better opportunity to select his replacement, post end of SH season. However, I have neither real concern, nor interest, in how it plays out as it appears definite he won't be in Ireland in 2018.