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Re: Munster 2016-2017

Postby simonokeeffe » April 14th, 2017, 4:06 pm

good to see Ryan and TB back
When he spreads his legs like that youd need dynamite or the Highland Light Infantry to shift him.
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Re: Munster 2016-2017

Postby ronk » April 14th, 2017, 4:19 pm

Munster: Simon Zebo; Darren Sweetnam, Francis Saili, Rory Scannell, Keith Earls; Tyler Bleyendaal, Duncan Williams; Dave Kiloyne, Niall Scannell, John Ryan; Donnacha Ryan, Billy Holland; Peter O’Mahony Capt., Tommy O’Donnell, Jack O’Donoghue.

Replacements: Rhys Marshall, James Cronin, Stephen Archer, Dave O’Callaghan, Jean Deysel, Angus Lloyd, Ian Keatley, Andrew Conway.
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Re: Munster 2016-2017

Postby wixfjord » April 14th, 2017, 6:26 pm

Good to see Bleyendaal and Ryan in. That pack has two huge weeks ahead of it. Itoje, Kruis and Rhodes up against POM and Ryan will be a serious battle.
Backrow lacks a bit of carry with Stander out, hopefully he's ok for next week. Bigger loss than Murray at the moment.
Pity Conor Oliver can't get a look in. Deysel the 'lock' benching at 20.
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Re: Munster 2016-2017

Postby simonokeeffe » April 15th, 2017, 12:09 pm

Think thats just an issue of balance in the backrow corps but theres 2 different issues
When he spreads his legs like that youd need dynamite or the Highland Light Infantry to shift him.
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Re: Munster 2016-2017

Postby Dave Cahill » April 15th, 2017, 2:18 pm

Ulster's Angus Lloyd starts for Munster against Ulster in Munster as Duncan Williams drops out with a groin injury and Griesel benches, and Keatley starts as TB drops to bench
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Re: Munster 2016-2017

Postby simonokeeffe » April 15th, 2017, 2:50 pm

Thought Loyd went to Blackrock?

TB is sick, hopefully not rtp/concussion related
When he spreads his legs like that youd need dynamite or the Highland Light Infantry to shift him.
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Re: Munster 2016-2017

Postby cormac » April 15th, 2017, 2:50 pm

Rassie clearly angling for a coaching job in the GAA with all these late changes to the teamsheet.
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Re: Munster 2016-2017

Postby simonokeeffe » April 15th, 2017, 3:22 pm

POM clearly angling for a yellow card
When he spreads his legs like that youd need dynamite or the Highland Light Infantry to shift him.
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Re: Munster 2016-2017

Postby Dave Cahill » April 15th, 2017, 4:13 pm

Number 10, wearing 20, signed as a 4 or 5, replaces 8
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Re: Munster 2016-2017

Postby cormac » April 15th, 2017, 4:15 pm

This has been an awful game so far. So many individual errors
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Re: Munster 2016-2017

Postby paddyor » April 15th, 2017, 4:32 pm

And there's 5!
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Re: Munster 2016-2017

Postby Cor. Ind. » April 15th, 2017, 4:57 pm

Woefully inept performance. TOD & JOD were simply shocking. Personally, I would start DOC @6 and move POM to 7 for Sarries. Would also consider starting Oliver @7.

Lloyd did well for a guy who's been out of the frame all season and has barely seen a minute of game time.

Keats was cr@p as usual. Scannell & Sweetnam will be big losses. Simplifies things outside 10 though. Taute will play 12 and Conway 14. Definitely think that Rassie will go for a 6/2 split now.

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Re: Munster 2016-2017

Postby simonokeeffe » April 15th, 2017, 5:04 pm

cormac wrote:This has been an awful game so far. So many individual errors


think Munster had their mind on next week and sank to the level of the opposition
When he spreads his legs like that youd need dynamite or the Highland Light Infantry to shift him.
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Re: Munster 2016-2017

Postby neiliog93 » April 15th, 2017, 5:21 pm

From an Irish perspective, that was a worryingly poor standard game. Luke Marshall was incisive in attack and Earls was good, but apart from that, who actually played well? Niall Scannell maybe? Iain Henderson was working hard but again (partly because of solid Munster defence) his carries just didn't make the impact they did last season.

I thought Angus Lloyd did very well, someone who was ignored by all the representative sides and after 5 years of AIL at Trinity got a short-term deal at Ulster, and then sent on loan to Munster. It's nice to see him and the likes of Barry Daly making it in the pro game and playing well even after missing the academy boat.
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Re: Munster 2016-2017

Postby brenno » April 15th, 2017, 5:42 pm

Injuries stacking up. Stander though suggested he'll be ok, but if Murray, Williams, Scannell and Sweetnam are out then a big problem.
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Re: Munster 2016-2017

Postby simonokeeffe » April 15th, 2017, 5:48 pm

neiliog93 wrote:From an Irish perspective, that was a worryingly poor standard game. Luke Marshall was incisive in attack and Earls was good, but apart from that, who actually played well? Niall Scannell maybe? Iain Henderson was working hard but again (partly because of solid Munster defence) his carries just didn't make the impact they did last season.

I thought Angus Lloyd did very well, someone who was ignored by all the representative sides and after 5 years of AIL at Trinity got a short-term deal at Ulster, and then sent on loan to Munster. It's nice to see him and the likes of Barry Daly making it in the pro game and playing well even after missing the academy boat.


Marshall runs some great great lines but his butchery of try scoring chances is unforgiveable
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Re: Munster 2016-2017

Postby hugonaut » April 15th, 2017, 6:12 pm

neiliog93 wrote:From an Irish perspective, that was a worryingly poor standard game. Luke Marshall was incisive in attack and Earls was good, but apart from that, who actually played well? Niall Scannell maybe? Iain Henderson was working hard but again (partly because of solid Munster defence) his carries just didn't make the impact they did last season.

I thought Angus Lloyd did very well, someone who was ignored by all the representative sides and after 5 years of AIL at Trinity got a short-term deal at Ulster, and then sent on loan to Munster. It's nice to see him and the likes of Barry Daly making it in the pro game and playing well even after missing the academy boat.


It was a mistake-ridden game alright, but Munster had one eye on the next weekend [vis the withdrawal of Duncan Williams and Bleyendaal from the first XV] and Ulster are in a malaise: most of their coaching team are lame ducks, their star player threw a strop and they have really limited resources in their pack.

Aside from Marshall, I thought that Andrew Trimble looked pretty good for the most part. McCloskey was very effective when he came on. Obviously Earls was good, and I thought that John Ryan was his usual industrious self and dominated at scrumtime. You're right though, from a neutral viewpoint there was a bucket of mistakes and very few Irish players played a full 80 minutes [or even 60 minutes] they'd be happy to stand over.
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Re: Munster 2016-2017

Postby offshorerules » April 16th, 2017, 8:07 am

I thought Munster were quite lucky to win that. I'm also interested to hear from the people that want Zebo at full back for Ireland. He was terrible defensively and the fact that it stood out is saying something as it looked more like a game of tag than proper rugby to me.
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Re: Munster 2016-2017

Postby nelly the elephant » April 21st, 2017, 11:39 am

Munster in a Champions Cup semi final tomorrow in a sold out Aviva and there hasnt been a post here for 5 days?? :shock:
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Re: Munster 2016-2017

Postby wixfjord » April 21st, 2017, 12:19 pm

Good old emergency lock cover Deysel benching ahead of Oliver and JOD tomorrow.

Didn't some poster on here say they'd only be annoyed if that happened? Well it's happened!
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