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Re: David Nucifora - 2015/2016

Postby rooster » March 20th, 2017, 12:52 am

Munsterboy wrote:
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simonokeeffe wrote:[quote="ronk"]Hope VDF gets a long contract


Crazy not to give him three years

Depends how much they offer, he could opt for 2 and then push a rise again for a 3


Would be the smart move to refuse a longer deal if they're not offering him top dollar (because they know he wants to stay in Ireland and establish himself in the Irish team). Two years down the line, assuming he's made himself a permanent fixture in the Ireland squad, he'll be in a position to push for more.[/quote]
It has happened before that young upcoming players have gone for 2 year deals
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Re: David Nucifora - 2015/2016

Postby simonokeeffe » May 5th, 2017, 1:34 pm

NIQs for next season (lets let jokers rest)
*project or project eligible

Leinster:
Fardy (lock)
JGP* (scrumhalf)
Lowe* (back 3)
Isa (back 3)

Ulster
Van der Merwe* (prop)
Botha (backrow)
Coetzee (backrow)
Piatau (back 3)
Herbst & Ludik IQ in summer

Connacht
Dawai (backrow)
Boshoff (outhalf)
Lli* (utility back)
Aki & McCartney IQ in October

Munster
Marshall* (hooker)
Kleyn* (secondrow)
Taute (centre) tbc
TB* (outhalf) IQ in January
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When he spreads his legs like that youd need dynamite or the Highland Light Infantry to shift him.
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Re: David Nucifora - 2015/2016

Postby johng » May 5th, 2017, 1:41 pm

Munster defo getting one or two more. (Centre & Tight Head) Probably Connacht too
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Re: David Nucifora - 2015/2016

Postby simonokeeffe » May 5th, 2017, 1:44 pm

johng wrote:Munster defo getting one or two more. Probably Connacht too


yeah youd imagine one or both will get a prop, more likely a project in Munsters case

whilst I would disagree with it I wouldnt be startled if Munster retain one of their centres

with exception of Boshoff Connacht's NIQS are wider squad players
When he spreads his legs like that youd need dynamite or the Highland Light Infantry to shift him.
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Re: David Nucifora - 2015/2016

Postby johng » May 5th, 2017, 2:01 pm

If World Rugger are changing the qualification rules to 5 years next week, then perhaps there will be an announcement before that.
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Re: David Nucifora - 2015/2016

Postby simonokeeffe » May 5th, 2017, 4:20 pm

johng wrote:If World Rugger are changing the qualification rules to 5 years next week, then perhaps there will be an announcement before that.


I'd say they wont be able to railroad in a guillotine cut off though and itll be players who signed/moved for this season onwards are 5 years and maybe 4 years for players a year or two into it, unless IRFU know something we don't
When he spreads his legs like that youd need dynamite or the Highland Light Infantry to shift him.
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Re: David Nucifora - 2015/2016

Postby Ruckedtobits » May 5th, 2017, 7:48 pm

simonokeeffe wrote:
johng wrote:If World Rugger are changing the qualification rules to 5 years next week, then perhaps there will be an announcement before that.


I'd say they wont be able to railroad in a guillotine cut off though and itll be players who signed/moved for this season onwards are 5 years and maybe 4 years for players a year or two into it, unless IRFU know something we don't


They couldn't railroad a retrospective change without a raft of legal actions across the world for discrimination, breach of contract and possibly even precedent.

The 5-year qualification is largely an acknowledgement of Tier 2 Nations and Pichot's election as Vice President of World Rugby (but don't presume this means he will ever be President with the same views).

The new qualification rules will have an impact in Ireland, Scotland, France and Australia. Elsewhere, it's largely irrelevant. However, for the Irish and Scots in particular, it has already meant a much closer focus on "our diaspora", the sons and daughters of first and second generation emigrants - from this Nation averaging about 50,000 p.a. male and female for the last 50 years i.e. since 1967. Assuming 40% of them got married and had two kids, that's about 2m kids over 50 years, or 40,000 in each calendar year, now ranging in age from about 10 to 40.

That's a fairly strong research base, largely in English speaking countries from Australia to the US. Names are a great giveaway, but not a foolproof route. However, something like sites like this could be a very useful tool building the database.
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Re: David Nucifora - 2015/2016

Postby leinsterforever » May 5th, 2017, 7:56 pm

Ruckedtobits wrote:
simonokeeffe wrote:
johng wrote:If World Rugger are changing the qualification rules to 5 years next week, then perhaps there will be an announcement before that.


I'd say they wont be able to railroad in a guillotine cut off though and itll be players who signed/moved for this season onwards are 5 years and maybe 4 years for players a year or two into it, unless IRFU know something we don't


They couldn't railroad a retrospective change without a raft of legal actions across the world for discrimination, breach of contract and possibly even precedent.

The 5-year qualification is largely an acknowledgement of Tier 2 Nations and Pichot's election as Vice President of World Rugby (but don't presume this means he will ever be President with the same views).

The new qualification rules will have an impact in Ireland, Scotland, France and Australia. Elsewhere, it's largely irrelevant. However, for the Irish and Scots in particular, it has already meant a much closer focus on "our diaspora", the sons and daughters of first and second generation emigrants - from this Nation averaging about 50,000 p.a. male and female for the last 50 years i.e. since 1967. Assuming 40% of them got married and had two kids, that's about 2m kids over 50 years, or 40,000 in each calendar year, now ranging in age from about 10 to 40.

That's a fairly strong research base, largely in English speaking countries from Australia to the US. Names are a great giveaway, but not a foolproof route. However, something like sites like this could be a very useful tool building the database.


Isn't Nucifora supposed to have compiled a database of all IQ players playing above a certain level in the world?
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Re: David Nucifora - 2015/2016

Postby simonokeeffe » May 6th, 2017, 8:26 am

Thatd be great/interesting if he did
Know theres the exiles program in UK but a SH open line of communication at least would be good. Plenty of Bosses, Bents, and Courts out there and wages/opportunity to be year round pros would appeal to a lot of Mitre Cup, SA, and Aussies in gen
When he spreads his legs like that youd need dynamite or the Highland Light Infantry to shift him.
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Re: David Nucifora - 2015/2016

Postby simonokeeffe » May 10th, 2017, 8:26 am

http://www.the42.ie/irfu-irish-qualified-maggs-lydon-nucifora-3380846-May2017/?utm_source=twitter_self

extra IQ scouting/development in UK

also

"With Lydon leading the new IQ programme, work is already underway in the UK and there are future plans to tap into the Irish-qualified populations in Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, the US and elsewhere."
When he spreads his legs like that youd need dynamite or the Highland Light Infantry to shift him.
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Re: David Nucifora - 2015/2016

Postby rooster » May 10th, 2017, 10:14 am

simonokeeffe wrote:http://www.the42.ie/irfu-irish-qualified-maggs-lydon-nucifora-3380846-May2017/?utm_source=twitter_self

extra IQ scouting/development in UK

also

"With Lydon leading the new IQ programme, work is already underway in the UK and there are future plans to tap into the Irish-qualified populations in Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, the US and elsewhere."

Interesting as I heard they had binned the Exiles from someone who would have the correct info, perhaps they have had a change of heart though
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Re: David Nucifora - 2015/2016

Postby simonokeeffe » May 10th, 2017, 12:00 pm

rooster wrote:
simonokeeffe wrote:http://www.the42.ie/irfu-irish-qualified-maggs-lydon-nucifora-3380846-May2017/?utm_source=twitter_self

extra IQ scouting/development in UK

also

"With Lydon leading the new IQ programme, work is already underway in the UK and there are future plans to tap into the Irish-qualified populations in Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, the US and elsewhere."

Interesting as I heard they had binned the Exiles from someone who would have the correct info, perhaps they have had a change of heart though


think theyve either revamped it, working globally, or maybe change in residency laws spooked them :D

either way we should continue to tap into our diaspora
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Re: David Nucifora - 2015/2016

Postby Ruckedtobits » May 31st, 2017, 10:11 pm

No doubt DN is in Georgia keeping an eye on Ireland's next generation...... and also his nephew Harry N from Bond Univ in Queensland who is highly regarded Aussie scrum-half in his second yeat at this Tournament.
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