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Postby simonokeeffe » June 24th, 2016, 11:05 am

How will this effect things?

Power of Sterling diminished? English/UK contribution to broadcasting rights/kittys down? Can we afford to buy Marty Moore back now?
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Re: Brexit & Rugby

Postby Dave Cahill » June 24th, 2016, 11:11 am

The obvious and most significant issue will be around EU Assocation Agreements like Contonou and Kolpak.
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Re: Brexit & Rugby

Postby simonokeeffe » June 24th, 2016, 12:25 pm

Not familiar with first one
Kolpak is basically Saffers count as EU players?

But you raise a spectre of further RFU v Club clashes over limits on foreign players as well as the work permit issues

I think we'll see a greater schism between the sugar daddy clubs and the solvent (within their means) clubs
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Re: Brexit & Rugby

Postby cormac » June 24th, 2016, 1:15 pm

simonokeeffe wrote:Not familiar with first one
Kolpak is basically Saffers count as EU players?

But you raise a spectre of further RFU v Club clashes over limits on foreign players as well as the work permit issues

I think we'll see a greater schism between the sugar daddy clubs and the solvent (within their means) clubs


Think PI players come under Kolpak too. Obviously depends on what deal Britain does with the EU and whether free movement of people remains.
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Re: Brexit & Rugby

Postby simonokeeffe » June 24th, 2016, 1:44 pm

cormac wrote:
simonokeeffe wrote:Not familiar with first one
Kolpak is basically Saffers count as EU players?

But you raise a spectre of further RFU v Club clashes over limits on foreign players as well as the work permit issues

I think we'll see a greater schism between the sugar daddy clubs and the solvent (within their means) clubs


Think PI players come under Kolpak too. Obviously depends on what deal Britain does with the EU and whether free movement of people remains.


I looked it up and Islanders included as well as Saffers and many othet African countries. Plus Carribean. NZ & Aus are not inluded, nor are North America, Argentina
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Re: Brexit & Rugby

Postby fourthirtythree » June 24th, 2016, 6:52 pm

According to this article they are not sure yet

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... l-sport-eu

Seems pretty certain that the premiership will vote itself the right to hire more foreign players "One option would be to increase the quota of foreign players to five or six, but clubs would not be able to sign up emerging players from outside the British Isles while there would also be implications for players wanting to join French or Italian clubs."
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Re: Brexit & Rugby

Postby simonokeeffe » June 24th, 2016, 8:50 pm

Would mess up work permits, home office could say they have to have a certain skill level (re labour force)
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Re: Brexit & Rugby

Postby ronk » June 28th, 2016, 5:24 pm

The %^*#s who wrecked the Heineken Cup now get to do the same with the EU.

they'll do their own thing more than ever


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Re: Brexit & Rugby

Postby Oldschool » June 28th, 2016, 6:52 pm

ronk wrote:The %^*#s who wrecked the Heineken Cup now get to do the same with the EU.

they'll do their own thing more than ever


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Yeah I reckon you're spot on there.
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Re: Brexit & Rugby

Postby simonokeeffe » June 28th, 2016, 8:05 pm

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ronk wrote:The %^*#s who wrecked the Heineken Cup now get to do the same with the EU.

they'll do their own thing more than ever


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Yeah I reckon you're spot on there.
If we'd kicked the French out of the EU and England had stayed in we'd all be happy little Anglo Saxons.


its why the Welsh wont secede from the Union
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Re: Brexit & Rugby

Postby COYBIB » July 1st, 2016, 2:57 pm

The Welsh are subservient little lap dogs to the English and always have been. They're always happy to play a little cameo as a pawn in Englands rugby negotiations also, ultimately to their own expense each time, having once again been an obedient little boy and not even getting so much as an "ata boy" from their master.
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Re: Brexit & Rugby

Postby tones » July 8th, 2016, 1:26 pm

I think it could cause problems for some clubs that have significant debt e.g. Wasps. I don't think they're as financially sound & prudent as they make themselves out to be,.
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Re: Brexit & Rugby

Postby rooster » July 25th, 2016, 11:42 am

You lads might need your passports to get through a hole in the border wall to come up to the Ulster match!
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Re: Brexit & Rugby

Postby Dave Cahill » July 25th, 2016, 11:46 am

rooster wrote:You lads might need your passports to get through a hole in the border wall to come up to the Ulster match!



No need, the game will be played in Breffni Park
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Re: Brexit & Rugby

Postby simonokeeffe » July 25th, 2016, 12:51 pm

Premiership clubs to get £28 million a year to cover expanded eps squad/deal, that may soften the blow

Eddie Jones gets 2 week camp before AIs and 6n now, starters get a match off in December and April, 10 week preseason break
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Re: Brexit & Rugby

Postby rooster » July 25th, 2016, 8:31 pm

Dave Cahill wrote:
rooster wrote:You lads might need your passports to get through a hole in the border wall to come up to the Ulster match!



No need, the game will be played in Breffni Park

We might need visa's to get in there, though I won't with the dual nationality and local road knowledge :)
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Re: Brexit & Rugby

Postby Ruckedtobits » November 4th, 2016, 1:58 am

rooster wrote:You lads might need your passports to get through a hole in the border wall to come up to the Ulster match!


Although it seemed clearcut at the time, (The Brexit Vote) the UK High Court Judgement today has fairly screwed-up this process. Reading through the detail in today's Judgement in Paragraph 104, it appears to me that the UK High Court has been very critical of the decision reached by the Northern Ireland High Court last Tuesday and goes as far as to say that Court mis-interpreted the Law of the land.

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Re: Brexit & Rugby

Postby simonokeeffe » November 4th, 2016, 8:46 am

I think it will pass psrliament though as too many mps will bottle doing the right thing in face of media pressure plus Labour are a dysfunctional mess
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Re: Brexit & Rugby

Postby Oldschool » November 4th, 2016, 9:06 am

simonokeeffe wrote:I think it will pass psrliament though as too many mps will bottle doing the right thing in face of media pressure plus Labour are a dysfunctional mess

The right thing is to do what the electorate voted for.
Anything else would set a very dangerous precedent.
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Re: Brexit & Rugby

Postby simonokeeffe » November 4th, 2016, 9:40 am

Oldschool wrote:
simonokeeffe wrote:I think it will pass psrliament though as too many mps will bottle doing the right thing in face of media pressure plus Labour are a dysfunctional mess

The right thing is to do what the electorate voted for.
Anything else would set a very dangerous precedent.


non binding vote but if they ran it again it would probably swing the other way

and referendums a rare thing there
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