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Re: Philip Browne issues warning to the provinces

Postby Dave Cahill » July 21st, 2016, 2:30 pm

simonokeeffe wrote:No on RK but I think others shone and shone brightly in their abscence. Zebo is now Munsters fullback, where Payne plays for Ulster will be telling. DK has routinely been behind several others

Joe's Ireland have had a eureka moment with attacking fullbacks and nearly everyone is now playing a wide wide game. Plus we (know we) dont have the front 5 to play narrow
no more

Plus side is Leinster have spare/better options at 15 and if RK starts for Ireland by choice then chances are Ringrose is available more which would be damn good news for Leinster


What eureka moment? We lost two out of three tests against a fairly unimpressive Bok side!
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Re: Philip Browne issues warning to the provinces

Postby simonokeeffe » July 21st, 2016, 2:44 pm

Dave Cahill wrote:
simonokeeffe wrote:No on RK but I think others shone and shone brightly in their abscence. Zebo is now Munsters fullback, where Payne plays for Ulster will be telling. DK has routinely been behind several others

Joe's Ireland have had a eureka moment with attacking fullbacks and nearly everyone is now playing a wide wide game. Plus we (know we) dont have the front 5 to play narrow
no more

Plus side is Leinster have spare/better options at 15 and if RK starts for Ireland by choice then chances are Ringrose is available more which would be damn good news for Leinster


What eureka moment? We lost two out of three tests against a fairly unimpressive Bok side!


we saw what Payne could do and we played much more attacking/sexy rugby missing 15 or so players, away from home, end of long season, back to back tests, altitude, world cup year, cant buy red lemonade there, man sent off, they shouldve had a man sent off, missed their mammies etc etc
and that Bok team got a lot better once they went Lions heavy

If Payne plays 15 in the autumn I'm right, he doesn't I'm wrong
When he spreads his legs like that youd need dynamite or the Highland Light Infantry to shift him.
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Re: Philip Browne issues warning to the provinces

Postby LeRouxIsPHat » July 21st, 2016, 2:51 pm

Plus Payne missed the last test and our attack was much worse in that game.
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Re: Philip Browne issues warning to the provinces

Postby rooster » September 13th, 2016, 10:23 am

Getting back to the original post, what would you think if I said this year's budget is not yet sorted out and the million euros to each province was a bit of journalistic waffle.
Looking like cuts to Leinster and Ulster to keep the Turnips afloat
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Re: Philip Browne issues warning to the provinces

Postby simonokeeffe » September 13th, 2016, 10:51 am

I would think thank f our wage bill is down but that aint right
When he spreads his legs like that youd need dynamite or the Highland Light Infantry to shift him.
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Re: Philip Browne issues warning to the provinces

Postby rooster » September 13th, 2016, 1:00 pm

If true and I have no reason to suspect otherwise it is a diabolical situation that provinces don't know how much they have in the pot for contracts as it is that time of year for negotiations to begin.
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Re: Philip Browne issues warning to the provinces

Postby Oldschool » September 13th, 2016, 1:42 pm

Typical management strategy is to seek to dampen expectations before negotiations begin.
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Re: Philip Browne issues warning to the provinces

Postby rooster » September 13th, 2016, 1:55 pm

Oldschool wrote:Typical management strategy is to seek to dampen expectations before negotiations begin.
Are expectations high?

They know funding will be cut
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Re: Philip Browne issues warning to the provinces

Postby Peg Leg » September 13th, 2016, 2:22 pm

rooster wrote:
Oldschool wrote:Typical management strategy is to seek to dampen expectations before negotiations begin.
Are expectations high?

They know funding will be cut

Up to or above the €500k promised?

It's one thing to cut the budget- assuming for next season- but to do so after making a big play about saving the provincial skins earlier in the year is callous.
Is this legal, particularly after the IRFU announced figures for each province?
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Re: Philip Browne issues warning to the provinces

Postby rooster » September 13th, 2016, 4:22 pm

Peg Leg wrote:
rooster wrote:
Oldschool wrote:Typical management strategy is to seek to dampen expectations before negotiations begin.
Are expectations high?

They know funding will be cut

Up to or above the €500k promised?

It's one thing to cut the budget- assuming for next season- but to do so after making a big play about saving the provincial skins earlier in the year is callous.
Is this legal, particularly after the IRFU announced figures for each province?

The IRFU giveth and the IRFU taketh away.
They will say we never said we would give you 500k
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Re: Philip Browne issues warning to the provinces

Postby rooster » December 9th, 2016, 11:10 am

As an example of the money difference between Irish and English sides Exeter have released their figures for last year and they have an income in excess of £5 million more than us, now they are a club that is not pulling in a huge tax dodge or twisting the books so it is probably as good a comparison as you will get
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Re: Philip Browne issues warning to the provinces

Postby simonokeeffe » December 9th, 2016, 12:19 pm

rooster wrote:As an example of the money difference between Irish and English sides Exeter have released their figures for last year and they have an income in excess of £5 million more than us, now they are a club that is not pulling in a huge tax dodge or twisting the books so it is probably as good a comparison as you will get


They were living within means and owned own ground. Saw this posted elsewhere but those figures may be an anomaly due to hosting world cup matches
When he spreads his legs like that youd need dynamite or the Highland Light Infantry to shift him.
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Re: Philip Browne issues warning to the provinces

Postby Peg Leg » December 9th, 2016, 2:33 pm

A lot of club related revenue probably doesn't touch the books here though, thanks to the IRFU.
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Re: Philip Browne issues warning to the provinces

Postby rooster » December 9th, 2016, 6:13 pm

simonokeeffe wrote:
rooster wrote:As an example of the money difference between Irish and English sides Exeter have released their figures for last year and they have an income in excess of £5 million more than us, now they are a club that is not pulling in a huge tax dodge or twisting the books so it is probably as good a comparison as you will get


They were living within means and owned own ground. Saw this posted elsewhere but those figures may be an anomaly due to hosting world cup matches

They ran a profit of £1.2 million up from the previous year of 900k, yes RWC added a bit but they are better funded than our sides
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Re: Philip Browne issues warning to the provinces

Postby simonokeeffe » December 9th, 2016, 6:26 pm

rooster wrote:
simonokeeffe wrote:
rooster wrote:As an example of the money difference between Irish and English sides Exeter have released their figures for last year and they have an income in excess of £5 million more than us, now they are a club that is not pulling in a huge tax dodge or twisting the books so it is probably as good a comparison as you will get


They were living within means and owned own ground. Saw this posted elsewhere but those figures may be an anomaly due to hosting world cup matches

They ran a profit of £1.2 million up from the previous year of 900k, yes RWC added a bit but they are better funded than our sides


thats finer detail alright

Benefits of big tv deal and the money for EPS/Saxons is pretty good too
When he spreads his legs like that youd need dynamite or the Highland Light Infantry to shift him.
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Re: Philip Browne issues warning to the provinces

Postby rooster » December 10th, 2016, 11:47 am

simonokeeffe wrote:
rooster wrote:
simonokeeffe wrote:[quote="rooster"]As an example of the money difference between Irish and English sides Exeter have released their figures for last year and they have an income in excess of £5 million more than us, now they are a club that is not pulling in a huge tax dodge or twisting the books so it is probably as good a comparison as you will get


They were living within means and owned own ground. Saw this posted elsewhere but those figures may be an anomaly due to hosting world cup matches

They ran a profit of £1.2 million up from the previous year of 900k, yes RWC added a bit but they are better funded than our sides


thats finer detail alright

Benefits of big tv deal and the money for EPS/Saxons is pretty good too[/quote]
And when you take into account they are one of the lowest funded sides it makes the difference even worse.
We will never match or even get anywhere near their TV deals, in fact entire PRO12 TV money is probably not much more than one PRL Club get !
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