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Re: Future of European Club Rugby

Postby BlueBlue » April 12th, 2017, 6:00 pm

olaf the fat wrote:Wales may be more of a problem than Italy or Scotland.

They seem to look longingly at the AP. If only they could or would compete in the Hcup/CCup they may get some traction for their clubs. At the moment they seem mildly interested in the PRO12.

We see 2 Pro12 clubs in the last 4 in Europe - others see it as 2 IRFU teams

To be fair the WRU is committed to the Pro12, they don't look for scraps off the English table, its the regional sides that do that. However with dual contracts and 50% ownership of Dragons (perhaps more now) the WRU are in control, that was not the case 2 years ago. The WRU won the civil war, that's a major positive for the Pro12.

Any ejit can see that there is no room for anything other than the English sides in Aviva Premiership, in fact there is not even enough room. The shareholders in AP are 14, not 12. They either have to axe 2 shareholders or extend the season, hence the move to reduce the 6N and expand the club calendar. They cannot scrap relegation until they sort this. English championship rugby will be set adrift. What fool thinks they are going to make room for 4 welsh regions. Not a chance, turkeys voting for Christmas.
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Re: Future of European Club Rugby

Postby Dave Cahill » April 12th, 2017, 7:43 pm

ronk wrote:
Dave Cahill wrote:Thats the thing that welsh fans don't understand and welsh administrators know for certain!

But would it bother administrators if it was a fair accompli that was beyond their control and there was no alternative.

It would bother them certainly. They'd have no control (or even less than they currently do) and with the exception of Ospreys, they might not have any teams at the higher level. The English don't want to be lumbered with them, and Wales itself, already quite poor, is about to get a lot poorer post-brexit.

If English Rugby crossed the rubicon to let non English sides into the Premiership, the best Welsh side would be their, at best, seventh choice
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Re: Future of European Club Rugby

Postby paddyor » April 15th, 2017, 4:06 pm


1.49m loss for Cardiff. A board member has called for the umber of Welsh teams to be cut to 2.
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Re: Future of European Club Rugby

Postby ronk » April 15th, 2017, 4:35 pm

Very generous of him to offer to cut the other teams.
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Re: Future of European Club Rugby

Postby simonokeeffe » April 15th, 2017, 5:06 pm

ronk wrote:Very generous of him to offer to cut the other teams.

that did make me laugh alright

they can definitely support 3 centrally funded teams but problem was clubs wouldnt accept regions then funded disastorous moves into soccer stadiums and resisted central contracts
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Re: Future of European Club Rugby

Postby ronk » April 16th, 2017, 11:43 pm

https://www.balls.ie/rugby/blacks-north ... gby-360991

Interesting article about developments in creating elite structures in Welsh schools rugby.

Probably will have an impact but it's only one side of the story and there are mentions of resistance.

If the regions go around thinking they need the same budget as Gloucester to be competitive they'll keep having problems.
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