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Re: Munster 2016-2017

Postby Laighin Break » April 8th, 2017, 7:20 am

Timbit wrote:
fourthirtythree wrote:Well we were led to believe this was the case by the Munster posters on here who claimed to be in the know.

We now know not to trust those sources. So thanks for that.


Jesus this is hysterical stuff. Nacewa and Kirchener have both covered positions they weren't signed for. CALL NUCIFORAON THE OUTRAGE PHONE


In fairness Nacewa and Kirchner move around to cover injuries or due to squad rotation. This wouldn't seem to be the case with Taute and Sailing starting and Scannell benched.
As mentioned by 433, Munster posters here insisted that this wouldn't happen. Just pointing out that it has happened.
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Re: Munster 2016-2017

Postby Timbit » April 8th, 2017, 8:20 am

Laighin Break wrote:
Timbit wrote:
fourthirtythree wrote:Well we were led to believe this was the case by the Munster posters on here who claimed to be in the know.

We now know not to trust those sources. So thanks for that.


Jesus this is hysterical stuff. Nacewa and Kirchener have both covered positions they weren't signed for. CALL NUCIFORAON THE OUTRAGE PHONE


In fairness Nacewa and Kirchner move around to cover injuries or due to squad rotation. This wouldn't seem to be the case with Taute and Sailing starting and Scannell benched.
As mentioned by 433, Munster posters here insisted that this wouldn't happen. Just pointing out that it has happened.


So you're telling me there is not a single player in the province of Leinster who could play centre? Hmmmm....
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Re: Munster 2016-2017

Postby Laighin Break » April 8th, 2017, 9:00 am

Timbit wrote:So you're telling me there is not a single player in the province of Leinster who could play centre? Hmmmm....


Not what I'm saying at all. The issue isn't having an NIQ playing a different position, it's having 2 NIQs playing in essentially the same position.
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Re: Munster 2016-2017

Postby All Blacks nil » April 8th, 2017, 9:14 am

fourthirtythree wrote:Well we were led to believe this was the case by the Munster posters on here who claimed to be in the know.

We now know not to trust those sources. So thanks for that.


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Scannell's gametime being managed by Joe with USA/JAPAN in mind, according to my sources
See if that one will run.
Sails and Taute are contracted with Munster. Why would you believe that they can't both be selected.
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Re: Munster 2016-2017

Postby munster#1 » April 8th, 2017, 9:23 am

All Blacks nil wrote:
fourthirtythree wrote:Well we were led to believe this was the case by the Munster posters on here who claimed to be in the know.

We now know not to trust those sources. So thanks for that.


Shock horror
Internet forum an untrustworthy source
Scannell's gametime being managed by Joe with USA/JAPAN in mind, according to my sources
See if that one will run.
Sails and Taute are contracted with Munster. Why would you believe that they can't both be selected.
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Imo Munster have been very proactive in their selection approach. Saili is back a good while now, and this issue is only coming up now as scannell has been picked in nearly every game, and goggin has gotten some valuable experience.

Munster are looking likely to have a very busy few weeks of important games.
Both Taute and Saili are going to be in the 23 when fit, and in the likely event that their are injuries, both will play together at some stage of these important games.

It would be suicide not to give them some game time to see how it works.
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Re: Munster 2016-2017

Postby ribs » April 8th, 2017, 9:43 am

Go ahead and sign 23 players then... You'd have to play them since you are paying them... and rotate them into other positions just in case. Maybe you could sign pienaar too
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Re: Munster 2016-2017

Postby Laighin Break » April 8th, 2017, 10:01 am

All Blacks nil wrote:
fourthirtythree wrote:Well we were led to believe this was the case by the Munster posters on here who claimed to be in the know.

We now know not to trust those sources. So thanks for that.


Shock horror
Internet forum an untrustworthy source
Scannell's gametime being managed by Joe with USA/JAPAN in mind, according to my sources
See if that one will run.
Sails and Taute are contracted with Munster. Why would you believe that they can't both be selected.
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Actually I think you'll find that most of us did not believe those that claimed the case. More of an 'I told you so' moment.
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Re: Munster 2016-2017

Postby Timbit » April 8th, 2017, 10:38 am

Laighin Break wrote:
Timbit wrote:So you're telling me there is not a single player in the province of Leinster who could play centre? Hmmmm....


Not what I'm saying at all. The issue isn't having an NIQ playing a different position, it's having 2 NIQs playing in essentially the same position.

Well inside centre and outside centre are actually different positions. I really rate Ringrose but wouldn't particularly like to see him at 12.

Leaving that aside Kirchener and Nacewa both started on the wings plenty of times for Leinster. Was that an issue for you?
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Re: Munster 2016-2017

Postby Timbit » April 8th, 2017, 10:41 am

ribs wrote:Go ahead and sign 23 players then... You'd have to play them since you are paying them... and rotate them into other positions just in case. Maybe you could sign pienaar too


There's no need, we have loads of excellent players that we've bought up through our structures. They all play on a regular basis and are in a European. Semi. Thanks for the thought though
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Re: Munster 2016-2017

Postby Timbit » April 8th, 2017, 11:23 am

Laighin Break wrote:
Timbit wrote:
fourthirtythree wrote:Well we were led to believe this was the case by the Munster posters on here who claimed to be in the know.

We now know not to trust those sources. So thanks for that.


Jesus this is hysterical stuff. Nacewa and Kirchener have both covered positions they weren't signed for. CALL NUCIFORAON THE OUTRAGE PHONE


In fairness Nacewa and Kirchner move around to cover injuries or due to squad rotation. This wouldn't seem to be the case with Taute and Sailing starting and Scannell benched.
As mentioned by 433, Munster posters here insisted that this wouldn't happen. I Just pointing out that it has happened.



So 4 months after the signing Scannell is benching for one game to rest in the run up to a European semi that he will start for is blocking his development? Is that what you're suggesting?
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Re: Munster 2016-2017

Postby Peg Leg » April 8th, 2017, 11:41 am

Hey it's cool, Scott Fardy will not ever play in the back row for Leinster, ever.
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Re: Munster 2016-2017

Postby fourthirtythree » April 8th, 2017, 11:54 am

Timbit wrote:
ribs wrote:Go ahead and sign 23 players then... You'd have to play them since you are paying them... and rotate them into other positions just in case. Maybe you could sign pienaar too


There's no need, we have loads of excellent players that we've bought up through our structures. They all play on a regular basis and are in a European. Semi. Thanks for the thought though


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Re: Munster 2016-2017

Postby simonokeeffe » April 8th, 2017, 1:22 pm

wixfjord wrote:Aye, and are all of Madigan, O'Shea, McCarthy, Whcyerley, Coombes, Chisholm, Copeland, TOD unavailable too?

What did the Munster press release say when he joined?
With Jean Kleyn already ruled out due to a neck injury, the additional blow to the second row options sees Director of Rugby Rassie Erasmus call on the services of Sharks lock Jean Deysel on a three-month loan.


Did anyone really believe he was a lock?!


I either dont think they did and or other players were going to have to move
or he was stopgap

Think TOD just rested/rotated for this one
AFAIK Copeland and posibly Madigan are injured
Chisholm is well documented
Wycherley is too young/small
When he spreads his legs like that youd need dynamite or the Highland Light Infantry to shift him.
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Re: Munster 2016-2017

Postby wixfjord » April 8th, 2017, 9:40 pm

simonokeeffe wrote:
Think TOD just rested/rotated for this one
AFAIK Copeland and posibly Madigan are injured
Chisholm is well documented
Wycherley is too young/small


Copeland played AIL today, as did Wycherley and Coombes.
Madigan & Chisholm both played A game last week, as did Darren O'Shea.

Deysel was signed as a 'lock' replacement for Kleyn. Isn't it fine and dandy to be able to sign a Saffer backrow and say he's a lock, the play him in the backrow? :lol:
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Re: Munster 2016-2017

Postby Timbit » April 8th, 2017, 10:04 pm

wixfjord wrote:
simonokeeffe wrote:
Think TOD just rested/rotated for this one
AFAIK Copeland and posibly Madigan are injured
Chisholm is well documented
Wycherley is too young/small


Copeland played AIL today, as did Wycherley and Coombes.
Madigan & Chisholm both played A game last week, as did Darren O'Shea.

Deysel was signed as a 'lock' replacement for Kleyn. Isn't it fine and dandy to be able to sign a Saffer backrow and say he's a lock, the play him in the backrow? :lol:


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Re: Munster 2016-2017

Postby wixfjord » April 8th, 2017, 10:08 pm

Timbit wrote:
wixfjord wrote:
simonokeeffe wrote:
Think TOD just rested/rotated for this one
AFAIK Copeland and posibly Madigan are injured
Chisholm is well documented
Wycherley is too young/small


Copeland played AIL today, as did Wycherley and Coombes.
Madigan & Chisholm both played A game last week, as did Darren O'Shea.

Deysel was signed as a 'lock' replacement for Kleyn. Isn't it fine and dandy to be able to sign a Saffer backrow and say he's a lock, the play him in the backrow? :lol:


Bet you fifty quid Garry will play out of position for Leinster. You want to sign up to it?


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Re: Munster 2016-2017

Postby neiliog93 » April 8th, 2017, 11:04 pm

I think you mean Fardy. And no, that won't happen. We have so many back rowers he just won't be needed.
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Re: Munster 2016-2017

Postby munster#1 » April 8th, 2017, 11:19 pm

Why are people getting so worked up over this.

So Munster are clearly missing 2 of their beat locks and we're granted by the clubs owners to sign a temp signing.
Instead if using him at lock, they decided to play a home grown player there instead, and use the temp lock signing in the back row to give lads a much needed rest.

In this scenario, Munster have given a home grown player so needed game time, and other players a much needed rest, along with getting the temp signing some minutes in his legs.

Munster, like Leinster, will need to use their squad very wisely over the next few weeks. They need to give certain players some time off, and give others some game time to develop and add options.
Given Munster's problem at lock, Doc may well be a good bench option to cover 4, 5 and 6 with JOD covering 7 and 8.

Scannell may be required to move to out half, so Munster need to cover that eventually by having Taute and Saili playing together.

I think posters are looking for ways to feel offended, or have a sly dig at Munster, but they are not looking objectively.
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Re: Munster 2016-2017

Postby The Doc » April 8th, 2017, 11:29 pm

munster#1 wrote:Why are people getting so worked up over this.

So Munster are clearly missing 2 of their beat locks and we're granted by the clubs owners to sign a temp signing.
Instead if using him at lock, they decided to play a home grown player there instead, and use the temp lock signing in the back row to give lads a much needed rest.

In this scenario, Munster have given a home grown player so needed game time, and other players a much needed rest, along with getting the temp signing some minutes in his legs.

Munster, like Leinster, will need to use their squad very wisely over the next few weeks. They need to give certain players some time off, and give others some game time to develop and add options.
Given Munster's problem at lock, Doc may well be a good bench option to cover 4, 5 and 6 with JOD covering 7 and 8.

Scannell may be required to move to out half, so Munster need to cover that eventually by having Taute and Saili playing together.

I think posters are looking for ways to feel offended, or have a sly dig at Munster, but they are not looking objectively.

Think you might be reacting to some fishing :D



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Re: Munster 2016-2017

Postby neilinboston » April 9th, 2017, 12:30 am

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