Munster 2017 -2018

[dropkick]

Big shift from POM tonight. Got two warnings from the ref about mouthing, put in 3 carries for 3 metres run and also 1 tackle.

BIG.

If he was a good boy and kept his mouth shut Munster could have lost.


Cherry picking stats doesn't tell us much.

[wixfjord]

Big shift from POM tonight. Got two warnings from the ref about mouthing, put in 3 carries for 3 metres run and also 1 tackle.

BIG.

If he was a good boy and kept his mouth shut Munster could have lost.


Cherry picking stats doesn't tell us much.

What other stats would you use to tell the bigger story then?

The ref had to speak to Billy Holland to ask POM to calm down. He said 'I'm finding it hard to communicate with him if you can pass that message on' after POM got into his face after a knock on.

Easy to respond with no actual point to make isn't it!

[wixfjord]

Check out @rutty2slutty’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/rutty2slutty/status ... 76321?s=09

This is what he was drawing the refs attention to and was ignored. A good captain protects his players. Now you might crawl back under the bridge for a while.

No, it wasn't Tim.

He lost the head long before that. He was spoken to by Adamson twice at the beginning of the second half, the second time around 49th minute after he missed a supposed knock on (that wasn't) and then actually gave Copeland a turnover. POM was still complaining after being given a penalty instead of a scrum.

It was then Adamson had to speak to Holland to calm him down.

The Marshall tackler was a shocker.

But POM's head was gone before that.

A good captain protects his players. POM didn't do that tonight because he was too busy mouthing and aggressively going after the ref.

Irish captain material though, right?

[wixfjord]

Yup, lions too.

He played on the wing for Cork Con too didn't he?

[olaf the fat]

I used to slag off POM, more as a response to Munster Fans abuse of Heaslip, and the anger face!
But in fairness to him, he does give great leadership to both Ireland and Munster, and Munster are in the running for both competitions - Proof is in the pudding.

[wixfjord]

I used to slagging off POM, more as a response to Munster Fans abuse of Heaslip, and the anger face!
But in fairness to him, he does give great leadership to both Ireland and Munster, and Munster are in the running for both competitions - Proof is in the pudding.

It is, and he showed the proof tonight.
Bizarre to lose the head that much in a fairly meaningless Pro14 game.

He's a cracking player when he's not revving into the red.

In terms of 'slagging off', I think that's different to giving facts about a game. Which is what I've done.

I'm waiting patiently for dropkick's stats to give a different picture on his performance this evening though.

[Laighin Break]

I used to slag off POM, more as a response to Munster Fans abuse of Heaslip, and the anger face!
But in fairness to him, he does give great leadership to both Ireland and Munster, and Munster are in the running for both competitions - Proof is in the pudding.

Agree with this. Was certainly doubting his starting place for the 6 Nations but he had a very good tournament, even if he doesn't light it up with stats.
He is a great leader, and someone you'd want in the trenches and I'd say someone you wouldn't want to be playing against, but I wouldn't have him as a captain as I think his dealing with referees isn't great.

[blockhead]

Very best of luck this weekend lads. I'll be shouting for ye in a pub in limerick.

Right back at you sir. Racing are very getable I think. Another all Ireland final would be so cool.
Altough it would force the Nigels to change the rules again.

[limecat]

Poor Zeebs https://twitter.com/SimonZebo/status/986186584163831808

[limecat]

Poor Zeebs https://twitter.com/SimonZebo/status/986186584163831808

Morkeshing mix up or absolute genius? I hope for the latter but suspect the former

They also sent similar tweets to others not in the squad, including Ian Madigan and Jared Payne, so I'm guessing it's just an idiot that doesn't have a clue about rugby.

[olaf the fat]

Talk of Zebo not starting the semi final - yet no sign of the melt down by Munster Fans when the same thing happened in the 6 nations

[janeymac08]

Talk of Zebo not starting the semi final - yet no sign of the melt down by Munster Fans when the same thing happened in the 6 nations

Its a fitness issue, nothing else. He hasn't played 80 minutes since February. I'd imagine he will be involved on the bench anyway. He didn't make the 6Ns squad.

[Oldschoolsocks]

He’s been dialing it in for a while now anyway

[TerenureJim]

He’s been dialing it in for a while now anyway

Not his biggest fan but that sprint to deny Ashton a try wasn't dialling it in

[Oldschoolsocks]

He’s been dialing it in for a while now anyway

Not his biggest fan but that sprint to deny Ashton a try wasn't dialling it in

One or two good moments in a match doesn’t paper over the cracks.

In fairness to the man though, apparently his Mam is very ill, that can really put a different context on things.

[tomthefan]

He’s been dialing it in for a while now anyway

Not his biggest fan but that sprint to deny Ashton a try wasn't dialling it in

If it wasn't for the fact that Zebo had about 10 to 15 metres fewer to travel than Ashton, that would have been a try.
Zebo could maybe do with taking a leaf out of Earls' book and shedding a bit of muscle mass.

[Peg Leg]

He’s been dialing it in for a while now anyway

Not his biggest fan but that sprint to deny Ashton a try wasn't dialling it in

If it wasn't for the fact that Zebo had about 10 to 15 metres fewer to travel than Ashton, that would have been a try.
Zebo could maybe do with taking a leaf out of Earls' book and shedding a bit of muscle mass.

Yeah.... Muscle mass.

[tomthefan]

If it wasn't for the fact that Zebo had about 10 to 15 metres fewer to travel than Ashton, that would have been a try.
Zebo could maybe do with taking a leaf out of Earls' book and shedding a bit of muscle mass.

Yeah.... Muscle mass.

LOL. Definitely worked for Earls, said so himself.
On the other hand you look at Ashton and he has both bulk and unbelievable pace.

[olaf the fat]

Provincial bias aside
Best of luck Munster - Happy Hunting.

I will be shouting for you on Sunday and hope to meet in Bilbao

[CiaranIrl]

Do people think Munster will do it? Racing don't seem as scary as Toulon on paper. I think they could pull it off.

Munster team to play Racing 92: Andrew Conway; Keith Earls, Sammy Arnold, Rory Scannell, Alex Wootton; Ian Keatley, Conor Murray; Dave Kilcoyne, Niall Scannell, Stephen Archer; Jean Kleyn, Billy Holland; Peter O’Mahony (C), Jack O’Donoghue, CJ Stander. Replacements: Rhys Marshall, James Cronin, John Ryan, Gerbrandt Grobler, Robin Copeland, James Hart, JJ Hanrahan, Simon Zebo.

Racing 92: Louis Dupichot; Teddy Thomas, Virimi Vakatawa, Henry Chavancy, Marc Andreu; Pat Lambie, Maxime Machenaud; Eddy Ben Arous, Camille Chat, Cedate Gomes Sa, Donnacha Ryan, Leone Nakarawa, Wenceslas Lauret, Bernard Le Roux, Yannick Nyanga. Replacements: Dimitri Szarzewski, Vasil Kakovin, Viliamu Afatia, Antonie Claassen, Baptiste Chouzenoux, Teddy Iribaren, Dan Carter, Joe Rokocoko.