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Postby neill_m » January 4th, 2019, 1:40 pm

Scarlets have ran out of fit backrow players. Ken Owens starting at no 8 v the Dragons.
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Re: Pro 14 - General Thread

Postby Oldschool » January 5th, 2019, 4:55 pm

Benetton won at home to Glasgow, blows Conference A wide open.
Benetton now second in our conference and likely to be still there at close of business this evening.
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Re: Pro 14 - General Thread

Postby John23 » January 5th, 2019, 10:16 pm

As expected the annual belly tickle taking place down in the Sportsgrounds.
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Re: Pro 14 - General Thread

Postby Ruckedtobits » January 5th, 2019, 10:51 pm

Once again, we should marvel at the depth emerging in Irish rugby and thank our lucky stars at the coaching excellence through the Provinces. Despite the disappointment in Connacht tonight with their result, the performance of so many individuals was very promising. Leader, Farrell, Carty, Blade, Kelleher, McCabe Heffernan, Thornbury, F'aoinga and Boyle all performed to a high level. The key difference was the Connacht maul, stripped of key components and without the time to work together under Jimmy Duffy, were blown away by the experienced Munster pack - both in defence and attack. As a consequence Connacht couldn't keep field position or exert sufficient pressure on Munster in their half.

A really good interpro game and a genuine contest and Connacht are well in the contest for a play-off position. They play intelligent football and have lots of talent coming through and most of the young guys have improved in every outing.

Farrell looks the form centre in Ireland through these Interprovincials and although it may be too late for him to force his way into the 6N Squad, his progress should be watched closely. Leader is another player who has improved and he might move up another level if he could get some "Joe time" in an international Squad.
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Re: Pro 14 - General Thread

Postby FLIP » January 16th, 2019, 1:09 am

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/46870718

Cockers is having a big old stir in this press briefing.

"We are playing for big stakes here, we are playing for a home quarter-final, we are playing to qualify.

"We are only interested in Edinburgh, but the by-product is getting Glasgow through.

"If we win, we get us through and Glasgow through, so come and support Scottish rugby.

"But come and support Edinburgh. We have got something worth supporting."
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Re: Pro 14 - General Thread

Postby blockhead » January 16th, 2019, 1:37 am

FLIP wrote:https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/46870718

Cockers is having a big old stir in this press briefing.

"We are playing for big stakes here, we are playing for a home quarter-final, we are playing to qualify.

"We are only interested in Edinburgh, but the by-product is getting Glasgow through.

"If we win, we get us through and Glasgow through, so come and support Scottish rugby.

"But come and support Edinburgh. We have got something worth supporting."


He does that a lot, and he's dead right. Trying to get some more fans into that massive stadium, they should be getting 30K plus for a game like this.
Cockers will be offered something big on the back of his exploits up in Edinburgh, but he could leave a good legacy behind him before he goes.
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Re: Pro 14 - General Thread

Postby kermischocolate » January 16th, 2019, 2:04 pm

blockhead wrote:
FLIP wrote:https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/46870718

Cockers is having a big old stir in this press briefing.

"We are playing for big stakes here, we are playing for a home quarter-final, we are playing to qualify.

"We are only interested in Edinburgh, but the by-product is getting Glasgow through.

"If we win, we get us through and Glasgow through, so come and support Scottish rugby.

"But come and support Edinburgh. We have got something worth supporting."


He does that a lot, and he's dead right. Trying to get some more fans into that massive stadium, they should be getting 30K plus for a game like this.
Cockers will be offered something big on the back of his exploits up in Edinburgh, but he could leave a good legacy behind him before he goes.


Yes, taking the piss out is Glasgow is a great way to get us to go and support them (more evident in other quotes).

The guy has done a very good job but he makes it very difficult to support him.
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Re: Pro 14 - General Thread

Postby blockhead » January 16th, 2019, 4:35 pm

kermischocolate wrote:
Yes, taking the piss out is Glasgow is a great way to get us to go and support them (more evident in other quotes).

The guy has done a very good job but he makes it very difficult to support him.


That dosen't mean a lot coming from a Warrior, kermi.
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Re: Pro 14 - General Thread

Postby kermischocolate » January 16th, 2019, 7:57 pm

blockhead wrote:
kermischocolate wrote:
Yes, taking the piss out is Glasgow is a great way to get us to go and support them (more evident in other quotes).

The guy has done a very good job but he makes it very difficult to support him.


That dosen't mean a lot coming from a Warrior, kermi.
He's made Edinburgh top dog in Scotland.


Yep and I'm not debating that at all.

Tbh given the last month or so I don't think Glasgow deserve to go through to the quarters and I certainly don't want to be there if it's by default because of another team. We're either good enough to qualify on our own or not. And at the minute I'm not sure we are. We'll just get there and get slaughtered. Where's the fun in that?

But SRU are trying to get a decent crowd in the library on Friday and are trying to get Glasgow fans to go and support them. It would help if Edinburgh's manager wasn't a condescending arse while doing so.
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Re: Pro 14 - General Thread

Postby Lar » January 16th, 2019, 8:00 pm

Could be a cracking game in fairness.
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Re: Pro 14 - General Thread

Postby neill_m » January 17th, 2019, 4:52 pm

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Re: Pro 14 - General Thread

Postby blockhead » January 17th, 2019, 6:31 pm

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EXCLUSIVE: The PRO14 in takeover talks with private equity firm
By Ian Cameron
17 January, 2:30pm
Ownership of the PRO14 could be set to change hands if an apparent bid by a private equity firm to takeover the competition is accepted.

Although believed to be in the early stages, RugbyPass understands that a private equity firm has held talks with the organization regarding the possibility of a potential buy out.

In 2017 the PRO14 made an unorthodox expansion to include two South Africans team, a move that a season and a half on appears to be a success.
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Now spanning five countries and two continents, the growth potential of the product and the exposure to a broad market could prove attractive to a private equity firm with designs on further expansion.

The PRO14 did not wish to make a comment when one was requested by RugbyPass.

A sixth country could be added, with English Championship club Ealing Trailfinders – currently sitting second on the table with an eye on Premiership promotion – currently examining the possibility of joining the competition. Franchises in Germany and the United States have also been mooted in the past.

Anayi’s tenure at the PRO14 has also seen a considerable amount of new broadcasting partnerships formed that now sees the competition broadcast in the USA, Australia and across Asia.

In December Premiership Rugby agreed to sell 27 percent of its shares to CVC Capital Partners in return for a fee believed to be in the region of £200 million.

In September, the 12 Premiership clubs initially voted to reject a proposal from the private equity firm to take control of 51 percent of the shares for around £275m.

But three months later, a deal has been struck between all parties – one that was unanimously accepted by the clubs.

CVC has previously been involved in MotoGP and Formula One, and Premiership Rugby chief executive Mark McCafferty believes the new partnership will elevate the competition to a greater standing on the global stage.
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Re: Pro 14 - General Thread

Postby ronk » January 17th, 2019, 6:56 pm

Haha
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Re: Pro 14 - General Thread

Postby Ruckedtobits » January 18th, 2019, 12:54 am

It's rumoured that Leinster Committee were informed on last Tuesday and the uniform response from the committee men was was "don't go there".

Its a very complex structure in Pro 14. Four Unions own the shares but it is their Teams who participate and direct the Management. The Clubs generally operate on a quasi-autonomous basis, independent from their Unions in day-to-day management.

Based on previous behaviour, the Welsh regions will be first with their hands out, followed by the Scots closely ahead of the Italians. The fear is that some decision-makers, at a remove from the constituent Clubs but with an eye to the bottom line or a Formula One style bonanza, could say Yes. Then we're into a game of "so we're really only finalising the price" as happened with the PRL.

I hope the Unions have sense and tell them, nicely, to push off. I've zero knowledge of the personalities in the Pro 14 Management, but I certainly hope they are excluded from the strategic discussions with these 'Carpetbaggers'
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Re: Pro 14 - General Thread

Postby johng » January 18th, 2019, 11:49 am

CVC trying to buy both leagues and create a B&I?
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Re: Pro 14 - General Thread

Postby Oldschool » January 18th, 2019, 12:45 pm

johng wrote:CVC trying to buy both leagues and create a B&I?

We read it here First. :(
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Re: Pro 14 - General Thread

Postby ribs » January 18th, 2019, 2:00 pm

"CVC has previously been involved in MotoGP and Formula One..."
anybody know how well that went? F1 certainly seems like a sport in its final throes
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Re: Pro 14 - General Thread

Postby Hornet » January 18th, 2019, 3:34 pm

ribs wrote:"CVC has previously been involved in MotoGP and Formula One..."
anybody know how well that went? F1 certainly seems like a sport in its final throes


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Re: Pro 14 - General Thread

Postby Dave Cahill » January 18th, 2019, 4:18 pm

ribs wrote:"CVC has previously been involved in MotoGP and Formula One..."
anybody know how well that went? F1 certainly seems like a sport in its final throes


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Re: Pro 14 - General Thread

Postby blockhead » January 26th, 2019, 12:13 am

Glasgow beat Ospreys 9-3. When was the last time Glasgow didn't score a try?
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