Pro 14 - General Thread

[sunshiner1]

https://www.ultimaterugby.com/news/sa-r ... %3F/606222

South Africans adopting a draft system to help Kings and Cheetahs. You can imagine that Nucifora will be following this closely.

[blockhead]

Pro 14 Attendances:
Total: 1,303,640
Ave: 8,521
Last Year Ave: 8,799
If you take out the SA teams home attendances, the average home gate for the original Pro12 teams was 9,045, or close to 250 extra people per game than last season.
5 years ago it was just over 8,000. Slow but steady progress year on year.
Average attendances:
Club- 2017 2018 Diff
Treviso 2460 3564 1104
Zebre 2058 2926 868
Glasgow 7186 7591 405
Edinburgh 5217 7594 2377
Dragons 6978 7526 548
Scarlets 7185 8999 1814
Cardiff 9099 8575 -524
Ospreys 9026 6994 -2032
Leinster 15579 16794 1215
Munster 14006 13288 -718
Connacht 6147 5833 -314
Ulster 15961 14025 -1936
Note: Judgement day game attendance (62,338) split between Dragons and Cardiff

Leinster attendances 2017/18: (Last season in brackets)
Total: 356,894 (304,816) *includes Euro semi V Scarlets
Total ave: 22,306 (19,051)
Pro14 ave: 16,794 (15,374)
RDS Pro14 ave: 13,836 (13,088)

Total attendance at Leinster games in RDS/Aviva this season was 402,896 at an average of 23,705.

[Peg Leg]

So our season att. Is 400k but the entire p14 season attendance is 1.3m?

[kermischocolate]

Pro 14 Attendances:
Total: 1,303,640
Ave: 8,521
Last Year Ave: 8,799
If you take out the SA teams home attendances, the average home gate for the original Pro12 teams was 9,045, or close to 250 extra people per game than last season.
5 years ago it was just over 8,000. Slow but steady progress year on year.
Average attendances:
Club- 2017 2018 Diff
Treviso 2460 3564 1104
Zebre 2058 2926 868
Glasgow 7186 7591 405
Edinburgh 5217 7594 2377
Dragons 6978 7526 548
Scarlets 7185 8999 1814
Cardiff 9099 8575 -524
Ospreys 9026 6994 -2032
Leinster 15579 16794 1215
Munster 14006 13288 -718
Connacht 6147 5833 -314
Ulster 15961 14025 -1936
Note: Judgement day game attendance (62,338) split between Dragons and Cardiff

Leinster attendances 2017/18: (Last season in brackets)
Total: 356,894 (304,816) *includes Euro semi V Scarlets
Total ave: 22,306 (19,051)
Pro14 ave: 16,794 (15,374)
RDS Pro14 ave: 13,836 (13,088)

Total attendance at Leinster games in RDS/Aviva this season was 402,896 at an average of 23,705.

Where do the numbers come from?
Not a chance do I believe Edinburgh attendances were bigger than Glasgow's. (except for the 2 derby games at Murrayfield)
Also every Glasgow home game was a sell out. Capacity (aka lack thereof) is a massive problem.

[Peg Leg]

Huge growth for d'italians

[enby]

Didn't know that Ulster get a higher attendance than Munster and with all their matches broadcast live on BBC TV.

I wonder will the Ospreys and Cardiff figures be affected by the relegation and promotion of their respective football teams. It must be hellish trying to run the Italian teams on such numbers

[blockhead]

Pro 14 Attendances:
Total: 1,303,640
Ave: 8,521
Last Year Ave: 8,799
If you take out the SA teams home attendances, the average home gate for the original Pro12 teams was 9,045, or close to 250 extra people per game than last season.
5 years ago it was just over 8,000. Slow but steady progress year on year.
Average attendances:
Club- 2017 2018 Diff
Treviso 2460 3564 1104
Zebre 2058 2926 868
Glasgow 7186 7591 405
Edinburgh 5217 7594 2377
Dragons 6978 7526 548
Scarlets 7185 8999 1814
Cardiff 9099 8575 -524
Ospreys 9026 6994 -2032
Leinster 15579 16794 1215
Munster 14006 13288 -718
Connacht 6147 5833 -314
Ulster 15961 14025 -1936
Note: Judgement day game attendance (62,338) split between Dragons and Cardiff

Leinster attendances 2017/18: (Last season in brackets)
Total: 356,894 (304,816) *includes Euro semi V Scarlets
Total ave: 22,306 (19,051)
Pro14 ave: 16,794 (15,374)
RDS Pro14 ave: 13,836 (13,088)

Total attendance at Leinster games in RDS/Aviva this season was 402,896 at an average of 23,705.

Where do the numbers come from?
Not a chance do I believe Edinburgh attendances were bigger than Glasgow's. (except for the 2 derby games at Murrayfield)
Also every Glasgow home game was a sell out. Capacity (aka lack thereof) is a massive problem.

Where do the numbers come from? Pro14 and EPRC sites
Not a chance do I believe Edinburgh attendances were bigger than Glasgow's. (except for the 2 derby games at Murrayfield) Why would you not count the derby games? Face it, Glasgow are the lowest attended club in professiomal rugby in Scotland.
Also every Glasgow home game was a sell out. Capacity (aka lack thereof) is a massive problem. The numbers are the numbers.

[blockhead]

So our season att. Is 400k but the entire p14 season attendance is 1.3m?

400k includes Euro games and Pro14 final

[blockhead]

Didn't know that Ulster get a higher attendance than Munster and with all their matches broadcast live on BBC TV.

I wonder will the Ospreys and Cardiff figures be affected by the relegation and promotion of their respective football teams. It must be hellish trying to run the Italian teams on such numbers

Munster attendace average is dragged down as ususal by games at Independent Park. TP average would be much higher.
Rise or fall in attendances from last season for clubs reflect the performances on the pitch in most cases.
Except for Glasgow.

[kermischocolate]

Where do the numbers come from? Pro14 and EPRC sites
Not a chance do I believe Edinburgh attendances were bigger than Glasgow's. (except for the 2 derby games at Murrayfield) Why would you not count the derby games? Face it, Glasgow are the lowest attended club in professiomal rugby in Scotland.
Also every Glasgow home game was a sell out. Capacity (aka lack thereof) is a massive problem. The numbers are the numbers.

Wasn't having a go.
What I meant was including the 2 derbies artificially inflates the numbers for average Edinburgh attendances. And without a new stadium Glasgow's physically can't get any bigger.

Oh to have an average of nearly 17k.

[blockhead]

Where do the numbers come from? Pro14 and EPRC sites
Not a chance do I believe Edinburgh attendances were bigger than Glasgow's. (except for the 2 derby games at Murrayfield) Why would you not count the derby games? Face it, Glasgow are the lowest attended club in professiomal rugby in Scotland.
Also every Glasgow home game was a sell out. Capacity (aka lack thereof) is a massive problem. The numbers are the numbers.

Wasn't having a go.
What I meant was including the 2 derbies artificially inflates the numbers for average Edinburgh attendances. And without a new stadium Glasgow's physically can't get any bigger.

Oh to have an average of nearly 17k.

Artificial? Total season attendance divided by the number of games played.
Plenty of big Stadia in Glasgow you could consider using for big occasions.
I'd say the Ulster fans would love to play you in Ibrox for example.

[Dave Cahill]

Hampden might be a better option!

[fourthirtythree]

Where do the numbers come from? Pro14 and EPRC sites
Not a chance do I believe Edinburgh attendances were bigger than Glasgow's. (except for the 2 derby games at Murrayfield) Why would you not count the derby games? Face it, Glasgow are the lowest attended club in professiomal rugby in Scotland.
Also every Glasgow home game was a sell out. Capacity (aka lack thereof) is a massive problem. The numbers are the numbers.

Wasn't having a go.
What I meant was including the 2 derbies artificially inflates the numbers for average Edinburgh attendances. And without a new stadium Glasgow's physically can't get any bigger.

Oh to have an average of nearly 17k.

Artificial? Total season attendance divided by the number of games played.
Plenty of big Stadia in Glasgow you could consider using for big occasions.
I'd say the Ulster fans would love to play you in Ibrox for example.

In our case a median would be a better guide than a mean.

[ronk]

A median answers a different question.

I think mean is right in this instance, if the knockouts are excluded. Playing 4 knockout games in Dublin is an outlier.

[jimbobjoe]

Further confirmation of Edinburgh setting up a small ground next to Murrayfield. Think this is a good move for them.

http://www.the42.ie/edinburgh-murrayfie ... 8-May2018/

[neill_m]

Good call by Edinburgh. Excellent transport links to Murrayfield etc. 3G pitch planned. One being put down at Musgrave Park also.

[Fireworks]

Further confirmation of Edinburgh setting up a small ground next to Murrayfield. Think this is a good move for them.

http://www.the42.ie/edinburgh-murrayfie ... 8-May2018/

A good move except for the capacity. 7,800 is a bit small and shows a lack of ambition unless it is designed to be easily expanded.

[jimbobjoe]

Further confirmation of Edinburgh setting up a small ground next to Murrayfield. Think this is a good move for them.

http://www.the42.ie/edinburgh-murrayfie ... 8-May2018/

A good move except for the capacity. 7,800 is a bit small and shows a lack of ambition unless it is designed to be easily expanded.

I imagine it will be expandable as there's a good chunk of space where the new pitch/stands are going. I reckon the 7,800 capacity is based on a target attendance in the short-medium term.

[Peg Leg]

7800 is selling a perfect solution to the murrayfield ptoblem

[blockhead]

7,800 every game and Murrayfield for the Glasgow derbies would be a huge step forward for Edinburgh.
If they can hang onto Cockers they're going places.