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Jackson & Olding: were UR/IRFU right or wrong to terminate their contracts?

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Re: Jackson & Olding: were UR/IRFU right or wrong to termina

Postby rooster » May 10th, 2018, 11:49 pm

What has the main sponsor of 6 Nations got to do with it anyway ?
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Re: Jackson & Olding: were UR/IRFU right or wrong to termina

Postby flustered » May 11th, 2018, 11:39 am

Read an article yesterday that Jackson had already signed an agreement with Sale and Olding had a verbal agreement in place before the objection to them moving there arose.....
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Re: Jackson & Olding: were UR/IRFU right or wrong to termina

Postby janeymac08 » May 11th, 2018, 2:23 pm

rooster wrote:What has the main sponsor of 6 Nations got to do with it anyway ?


A rugby rape trial going on in the middle of a rugby tournament that they are spending millions on sponsorship! As well as that, NatWest's sponsorship was only for 1 year, so 6Ns will be looking for a new rugby sponsorship next year.

NatWest as part of RBS also sponsor the Ulster Bank League, so they are really big sponsors of rugby in Ireland.
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Re: Jackson & Olding: were UR/IRFU right or wrong to termina

Postby rooster » May 11th, 2018, 3:13 pm

janeymac08 wrote:
rooster wrote:What has the main sponsor of 6 Nations got to do with it anyway ?


A rugby rape trial going on in the middle of a rugby tournament that they are spending millions on sponsorship! As well as that, NatWest's sponsorship was only for 1 year, so 6Ns will be looking for a new rugby sponsorship next year.

NatWest as part of RBS also sponsor the Ulster Bank League, so they are really big sponsors of rugby in Ireland.
Not really anything they could do about a trial in the middle of a tournament involving players who were not taking part.
It actually shows how ridiculous the whole affair became.
I have been talking to a sponsor since and they got emails from all over the world but by and far the vast majority of the sender's had nothing to do with rugby and had no interest in it either and it was all to do with the general rumpus going on around the world about sexual exploitation of women.
To be honest the more I have heard the IRFU ran scared without taking a proper balanced view on it all.
Sale have had a few complaints but when looked at most have been from feminist activists in Dublin and Cork who seem to have tried to gain publicity for the 8th referendum using it
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Re: Jackson & Olding: were UR/IRFU right or wrong to termina

Postby rooster » May 28th, 2018, 3:23 pm

Former Ulster and Ireland centre Stuart Olding has signed a two-year contract with Brive in the French second division.

The IRFU and Ulster Rugby revoked the contracts of Olding and team-mate Paddy Jackson following a review in the wake of their acquittal on rape charges in March.

Former Ulster and Ireland lock Jeremy Davidson is the coach at the French club.

The D2 side, who won the Heineken Cup in 1997, announced the signing of the 25-year-old on their website this afternoon.
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Re: Jackson & Olding: were UR/IRFU right or wrong to termina

Postby ronk » May 28th, 2018, 9:56 pm

Brive got a bargain. He gets out of the limelight, can’t even get drawn in Europe.
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Postby artaneboy » May 28th, 2018, 10:43 pm

I wish him the best of luck. He has the talent, but the court case and all its claims and implications will follow him for a long time yet. It won’t be easy.


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Re: Jackson & Olding: were UR/IRFU right or wrong to termina

Postby Logorrhea » May 28th, 2018, 11:01 pm

Wish him well. Good signing for Brive.
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Re: Jackson & Olding: were UR/IRFU right or wrong to termina

Postby paddyor » May 28th, 2018, 11:21 pm

THats a great signing for them. Hope it works out for him and he can get his career back on track.
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Re: Jackson & Olding: were UR/IRFU right or wrong to termina

Postby sunshiner1 » May 29th, 2018, 2:12 am

Well happy for him. He'll do well in France
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Re: Jackson & Olding: were UR/IRFU right or wrong to termina

Postby flustered » May 29th, 2018, 9:30 am

Jackson to Waikato!
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Re: Jackson & Olding: were UR/IRFU right or wrong to termina

Postby BlueBlue » May 29th, 2018, 9:59 am

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Re: Jackson & Olding: were UR/IRFU right or wrong to termina

Postby MelbourneRebel » May 29th, 2018, 10:04 am

I just can't see the grounds for terminating their contracts as they had been found not guilty, but I am not oblivious to how toxic their brands are when it comes to sponsorship/pr etc.

I wouldn't want them at Leinster but I am not comfortable with what is, justly or unjustly, a lynch-mob.
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Re: Jackson & Olding: were UR/IRFU right or wrong to termina

Postby artaneboy » May 29th, 2018, 5:17 pm

MelbourneRebel wrote:I just can't see the grounds for terminating their contracts as they had been found not guilty, but I am not oblivious to how toxic their brands are when it comes to sponsorship/pr etc.

I wouldn't want them at Leinster but I am not comfortable with what is, justly or unjustly, a lynch-mob.


A lynch mob is by definition unjust. That’s why it’s called by that title.


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Re: Jackson & Olding: were UR/IRFU right or wrong to termina

Postby Oldschool » May 29th, 2018, 6:49 pm

BlueBlue wrote:Now what's done is done and what's won is won
And what's lost is lost and gone forever
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This was a Pyrrhric battle there were no winners.
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Re: Jackson & Olding: were UR/IRFU right or wrong to termina

Postby artaneboy » May 29th, 2018, 6:58 pm

Oldschool wrote:
BlueBlue wrote:Now what's done is done and what's won is won
And what's lost is lost and gone forever
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This was a Pyrrhric battle there were no winners.


Well, that’s right as far as rugby stakeholders go. But there were other parties (not necessarily the ‘accuser’) who could have been deemed to have gained more than they lost- if they lost anything at all...
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Re: Jackson & Olding: were UR/IRFU right or wrong to termina

Postby sunshiner1 » June 5th, 2018, 7:34 am

Jackson being linked to Perpignan in France also Brive are meant to be sniffing around after signing Olding.
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Re: Jackson & Olding: were UR/IRFU right or wrong to termina

Postby Flash Gordon » June 5th, 2018, 3:05 pm

sunshiner1 wrote:Jackson being linked to Perpignan in France also Brive are meant to be sniffing around after signing Olding.


Brive or Waikato would be a big step down in standard for him. That being said, that's exactly the direction Madigan took. Perpignan would be a better option if they took him. What a mess!
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Re: Jackson & Olding: were UR/IRFU right or wrong to termina

Postby artaneboy » June 5th, 2018, 6:32 pm

Flash Gordon wrote:
sunshiner1 wrote:Jackson being linked to Perpignan in France also Brive are meant to be sniffing around after signing Olding.


Brive or Waikato would be a big step down in standard for him. That being said, that's exactly the direction Madigan took. Perpignan would be a better option if they took him. What a mess!


Beggars can’t be choosers now. He needs to get back playing. Anywhere really.

I’d take any of them on a one year deal- or two years for Perpignan.


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Re: Jackson & Olding: were UR/IRFU right or wrong to termina

Postby sunshiner1 » June 6th, 2018, 2:08 am

Perpignan have made it a priority to get a new out-half this season they are also linked with Janjies. I wouldn't go to Brive just because Olding is there. I think they need to stay away from each other in public for a while. Waikato or Perpignan would be my choices.
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