The Province Formerly Known As Munster 2018-19

blockhead · Post by **blockhead** » March 22nd, 2019, 11:15 pm

https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/ ... 41428.html

Weird and disturbing.

Ruckedtobits · Post by **Ruckedtobits** » March 24th, 2019, 2:41 pm

Is that story getting more space than Zebre's first-half assault on the Munster defence last night. As good a backs attacking coaching execution as Thomond Park has seen all Season

dropkick · Post by **dropkick** » March 24th, 2019, 8:36 pm

Ruckedtobits wrote:Is that story getting more space than Zebre's first-half assault on the Munster defence last night. As good a backs attacking coaching execution as Thomond Park has seen all Season

And coached by a Munster man! Wouldn't mind Bradley back as attack coach.

sunshiner1 · Post by **sunshiner1** » March 25th, 2019, 8:11 am

Saw the game. Entertaining. Gotta say Loughman's move to Munster has really worked out for him. Fair play to the lad.

Dave Cahill · Post by **Dave Cahill** » March 26th, 2019, 2:55 pm

Joey Carbury has signed a 2 year contract extension with Munster til June 2022

Alby Mattewson will remain at munster til the end of November

Edit - End of November 2019, post world cup.

wixfjord · Post by **wixfjord** » March 26th, 2019, 3:01 pm

If I were Nick McCarthy I'd be questioning my choice...

johng · Post by **johng** » March 26th, 2019, 3:03 pm

They really put the joke into injury joker

johng · Post by **johng** » March 26th, 2019, 3:03 pm

Last guy got nearly 3 seasons

OTT · Post by **OTT** » March 26th, 2019, 3:14 pm

Never in doubt really.

By the time Mattewson actually leaves (in 2 years?) Nick McCarthy will be 26 and deemed to be not of the required standard, I guess they can see who develops better between HOS and Patterson and take their pick closer to the time.

janeymac08 · Post by **janeymac08** » March 26th, 2019, 3:18 pm

wixfjord wrote:If I were Nick McCarthy I'd be questioning my choice...

Why? Mattewson will only be there as world cup cover for Murray. Matewson's family is back down under, so he should be back for start of super rugby season.
So far, James Hart and Duncan Williams are out of contract.

Dave Cahill · Post by **Dave Cahill** » March 26th, 2019, 3:24 pm

janeymac08 wrote:
wixfjord wrote:If I were Nick McCarthy I'd be questioning my choice...
Why? Mattewson will only be there as world cup cover for Murray..

Considering he was only supposed to be here until the end of December last year, then until the end of this week, then til the end of this season - you'll understand why people think that.

LeRouxIsPHat · Post by **LeRouxIsPHat** » March 26th, 2019, 3:33 pm

Not usually one to care about Munster signing players but that's a joke. Not sure how many games that extension covers but surely the IRFU should want McCarthy getting those games? There are other options too of course, ridiculous decision.

Happy to see that Joey has signed on, would have been slightly worried that he'd move abroad.

Dave Cahill · Post by **Dave Cahill** » March 26th, 2019, 3:37 pm

LeRouxIsPHat wrote:
Happy to see that Joey has signed on, would have been slightly worried that he'd move abroad.

Never would have thought that myself, of course I never thought about it to think about it, if you see what I mean?

wixfjord · Post by **wixfjord** » March 26th, 2019, 3:47 pm

janeymac08 wrote:
wixfjord wrote:If I were Nick McCarthy I'd be questioning my choice...
Why? Mattewson will only be there as world cup cover for Murray. Matewson's family is back down under, so he should be back for start of super rugby season.
So far, James Hart and Duncan Williams are out of contract.

A few reasons. Firstly it limits McCarthy's game time at a time of year when he should've been getting a lot of it. I'd imagine he wasn't aware Mathewson would be staying at the time he signed. And of course there's no guarantee Mathewson will move on in November either, considering he has had his contract extended twice now.

LeRouxIsPHat · Post by **LeRouxIsPHat** » March 26th, 2019, 3:49 pm

Weird one for Mathewson too, you'd imagine he could get a longer contract elsewhere...so you'd wonder why he'd choose this one...

wixfjord · Post by **wixfjord** » March 26th, 2019, 3:56 pm

LeRouxIsPHat wrote:Weird one for Mathewson too, you'd imagine he could get a longer contract elsewhere...so you'd wonder why he'd choose this one...

In reality though it's a 6 month extension. He gets to stay for a proper pre-season and can either stay in Munster or return to the SH for Super Rugby after.
He'll be almost 34 by the time it finishes so might be looking at it being his last shot at playing at this level too.

LeRouxIsPHat · Post by **LeRouxIsPHat** » March 26th, 2019, 5:47 pm

I think you missed my point, I was hinting that he knows he'll be able to stay longer. Not sure why the point about a 6 month extension is relevant, can't imagine he'd struggle to get a contract that takes him up to the summer.

Call me cynical, but would anyone be shocked if Conor Murray, totally unexpectedly, had to undergo surgery to clear up the injury that has clearly been holding him back once he made it through the World Cup? And then Munster would, totally unexpectedly, be able to offer a further extension to a guy who happens to be there already.

Oldschool · Post by **Oldschool** » March 26th, 2019, 9:24 pm

LeRouxIsPHat wrote:I think you missed my point, I was hinting that he knows he'll be able to stay longer. Not sure why the point about a 6 month extension is relevant, can't imagine he'd struggle to get a contract that takes him up to the summer.

Call me cynical, but would anyone be shocked if Conor Murray, totally unexpectedly, had to undergo surgery to clear up the injury that has clearly been holding him back once he made it through the World Cup? And then Munster would, totally unexpectedly, be able to offer a further extension to a guy who happens to be there already.

Murray needs that operation and if that means he misses the RWC then so be it.

ronk · Post by **ronk** » March 27th, 2019, 4:27 am

Dave Cahill wrote:
LeRouxIsPHat wrote:
Happy to see that Joey has signed on, would have been slightly worried that he'd move abroad.
Never would have thought that myself, of course I never thought about it to think about it, if you see what I mean?

He flaked out. He’s the Great Red Hope. A few well placed rumours and a bit of panic could have landed him a nice central contract.

He might have been afraid Munster fans would turn on him but that shows his immaturity.

ronk · Post by **ronk** » March 27th, 2019, 4:50 am

wixfjord wrote:
janeymac08 wrote:
wixfjord wrote:If I were Nick McCarthy I'd be questioning my choice...
Why? Mattewson will only be there as world cup cover for Murray. Matewson's family is back down under, so he should be back for start of super rugby season.
So far, James Hart and Duncan Williams are out of contract.
A few reasons. Firstly it limits McCarthy's game time at a time of year when he should've been getting a lot of it. I'd imagine he wasn't aware Mathewson would be staying at the time he signed. And of course there's no guarantee Mathewson will move on in November either, considering he has had his contract extended twice now.

Mathewson isn’t extending to be Nick McCarthy’s backup. He moved for a shot and he’s not due to get one.

If van Graan seriously wanted McCarthy he would not have wasted the chance to get McCarthy up to speed. Bringing in someone ahead of him so he doesn’t have to rely on him shows the esteem McCarthy is not held in.

If Leinster signed a relatively young player in a position it might be exciting. If we then signed a short term journeyman to ensure we didn’t need to rely on him in the Pro14 during a RWC window: I’d know to set my expectations very (very) low.

Even if Mathewson doesn’t extend, McCarthy wears 21 in the big games and gets a load of Pro14 starts there’s still the issue that Munster paid good money so they didn’t have to build on McCarthy/Cronin during the best building window every 4 years.

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