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Munster, The Money Pit Province 2019/2020

Postby Oldschool » July 5th, 2019, 5:01 pm

MTMPP, you can drop the P if you choose.
So MTMP.
Bastaureaud, enough said.
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tomthefan wrote:Crowd of penny pinchers.
So what if Munster lose money, it's a common thing for top clubs.
Look at Real Madrid, they've been losing money every year for decades.


Two points ttf, Munster don't play soccer and it's the Spanish government that pick up the tab for their losses iirc.

It's also doubtful that Bastareaud would be getting pennies or cents for that matter.
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Re: Munster, The Money Pit Province 2019/2020

Postby Oldschool » July 5th, 2019, 5:15 pm

The likely strategy with the Bastareaud proposal is that having been turned down for it, Munster will come back with what they are really after and cry foul if they don't get what they want.
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Re: Munster, The Money Pit Province 2019/2020

Postby blockhead » July 5th, 2019, 11:09 pm

Brilliant! Well done Oldschool.
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Re: Munster, The Money Pit Province 2019/2020

Postby Oldschoolsocks » July 5th, 2019, 11:41 pm

blockhead wrote:Brilliant! Well done Oldschool.
I was thinking along the lines of "The Franchise" but is much better.


Almost as good as the England v West England thread
I just wanted to see Gordon D'Arcy get a 'back, sack and crack wax'
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Re: Munster, The Money Pit Province 2019/2020

Postby ronk » July 6th, 2019, 11:34 am

SUAFFTMP
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Postby Dave Cahill » July 18th, 2019, 8:14 pm

Billy Scannell has apparently joined BOPB
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Re: Munster, The Money Pit Province 2019/2020

Postby johng » July 19th, 2019, 8:41 am

He is young enough to count as a jiff player if he works out.
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Re: Munster, The Money Pit Province 2019/2020

Postby cormac » July 19th, 2019, 9:20 am

johng wrote:He is young enough to count as a jiff player if he works out.


Thought they called them cif players now?
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Re: Munster, The Money Pit Province 2019/2020

Postby johng » July 19th, 2019, 10:01 am

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Re: Munster, The Money Pit Province 2019/2020

Postby leinsterforever » July 24th, 2019, 11:30 pm

I really liked the look of Jack O'Sullivan for the Ireland U20s. He's obviously a very intelligent and technically-sound player if he's able to carry so effectively while not being massively big (6'2'' and 100kg, according to his Munster profile). He'll probably end up around David Wallace size eventually (about 105kg). It would be good to see him get gametime this coming season.
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Re: Munster, The Money Pit Province 2019/2020

Postby blockhead » July 24th, 2019, 11:55 pm

From the42
Thomond Park naming rights still on the cards as Munster chip away at debt
IRFU CEO Philip Browne says union and province ‘have an agreement in place and everyone’s happy about that.’
MUNSTER RUGBY IS still looking at the possibility of selling the naming rights for Thomond Park as it continues to repay its debt to the IRFU.
A loan from the national union helped the southern province to redevelop the Limerick stadium in 2007/08.
There have been struggles for Munster to repay that debt in recent years, although a €2.6 million payment in 2017/18 helped the province to reduce the total owed to its current €6.86 million.
The 2017/18 season also saw the province renegotiate its schedule of loan repayments with the IRFU, reducing their scheduled repayments down from €500,000 to €100,000 per year.
The new deal also means that the IRFU will receive 50% of Munster’s multi-year ticket sales, 50% multi-year corporate box sales, as well as 50% of any Thomond Park naming rights income on an annual basis.
Despite having employed a consultant to explore selling the naming rights for Thomond Park in 2016 and pushing to find suitable partners for a deal in recent years, Munster Rugby has not yet found naming rights partners.
The selling of naming rights to Thomond Park is a divisive issue, given the stadium’s proud history and status in Limerick and the rest of the province.
However, the sale of naming rights has become more common in modern rugby, even in Ireland, with Lansdowne Road becoming the Aviva Stadium, Ravenhill in Belfast now being known as Kingspan Stadium and Munster’s own Musgrave Park in Cork now officially named Irish Independent Park.
Speaking before the IRFU’s AGM last week, union CEO Philip Browne indicated that Munster Rugby is still exploring the possibility of selling the naming rights for Thomond Park.
“Yeah, it’s still on the cards,” said Browne. “They’re looking at it.
“The difficulty with naming rights – and I’ll speak against this myself – is that it’s much easier to sell naming rights for a new stadium than it is for a stadium that’s already there.
“Having said that, the naming rights in the Aviva Stadium is probably one of the most successful naming rights.
“Does anyone call the place Lansdowne Road anymore? People of a certain generation possibly, but the traction that it got has been really quite remarkable and that deal has been extended to 2025, which is great.”
The IRFU would naturally benefit from Munster agreeing to any naming rights deal, with 50% of the possible annual income going towards paying off the province’s debt to the union.
With Munster having cut that debt down to €6.86 million, Browne indicated that the IRFU had been happy to restructure the repayments schedule to €100,000 annually.
“They’re chipping away at it,” said Browne. “The reality is that professional rugby is a marginal business.
“For all our provinces, the difference between breaking even and a loss is marginal. The difference between success and failure can boil down to things like getting a home quarter-final in Europe or not.
“Munster have done pretty well in terms of their performances on the park, which has managed to keep them financially in reasonable shape.
“There would be little point of the union putting them under more significant pressure and saying, ‘We want the loan back now.’ It’s a question of them continuing to chip away at it. We’re happy we have an agreement in place and everyone’s happy about that.”
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Re: Munster, The Money Pit Province 2019/2020

Postby FLIP » July 25th, 2019, 7:03 am

Viagra Stadium: for the team that can't get past a semi
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Re: Munster, The Money Pit Province 2019/2020

Postby offshorerules » July 26th, 2019, 4:42 pm

Where do the Leinster B team play?
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Re: Munster, The Money Pit Province 2019/2020

Postby dropkick » July 26th, 2019, 8:54 pm

The academy was announced during the week. Just 4 new players entering. Hodnett, Flannery, Eoin O'Connor and paddy Kelly. EoC and Kelly are locks.


Interestingly they're from West cork, Tipperary, Waterford and Limerick. Munster tapping into new streams of talent. 7 academy players from either Waterford, West cork or Kerry and 4 from Tipperary.
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Re: Munster, The Money Pit Province 2019/2020

Postby blockhead » July 27th, 2019, 1:00 am

dropkick wrote:The academy was announced during the week. Just 4 new players entering. Hodnett, Flannery, Eoin O'Connor and paddy Kelly. EoC and Kelly are locks.


Interestingly they're from West cork, Tipperary, Waterford and Limerick. Munster tapping into new streams of talent. 7 academy players from either Waterford, West cork or Kerry and 4 from Tipperary.


Thanks DK. How does that (4) compare to previous years?
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Re: Munster, The Money Pit Province 2019/2020

Postby dropkick » July 27th, 2019, 1:38 pm

blockhead wrote:
dropkick wrote:The academy was announced during the week. Just 4 new players entering. Hodnett, Flannery, Eoin O'Connor and paddy Kelly. EoC and Kelly are locks.


Interestingly they're from West cork, Tipperary, Waterford and Limerick. Munster tapping into new streams of talent. 7 academy players from either Waterford, West cork or Kerry and 4 from Tipperary.


Thanks DK. How does that (4) compare to previous years?



It's usually about 7 per year I think. Theres 18 in the academy now which is 2 less than last year. That's 18 players looking for a place in the next 3 years so you can see why they've reduced it to 4 this year.


Could be concentrating on quality over quantity. The players who missed out made little impact for the Ireland U20s.
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Re: Munster, The Money Pit Province 2019/2020

Postby johng » July 27th, 2019, 2:07 pm

https://www.the42.ie/munster-academy-20 ... 3-Jul2019/

I make it 19 which is 2 more than us.

Nuclear fora blamed for 2 more not getting in here. Perhaps he had a hand in theirs too.
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Re: Munster, The Money Pit Province 2019/2020

Postby dropkick » July 29th, 2019, 9:15 am

johng wrote:https://www.the42.ie/munster-academy-201920-4730283-Jul2019/

I make it 19 which is 2 more than us.

Nuclear fora blamed for 2 more not getting in here. Perhaps he had a hand in theirs too.



Nucifora seems to get the blame for everything. Just as well he is thick skinned.


I don't know too much of what's going on but the game seems to be well run in this country. There's always room for improvement but I'd say Nucifora is have a positive impact.


I'd say there won't be too many recruits again next season. The senior squad is getting younger so there's less need for a big academy. That's why Leinster have only 17.


Of the year 3s, I'd say Tynan and Stafford could be let go. To be fair I haven't seen much of Tynan but Stafford hasn't really stood out and Casey and McCarthy have just arrived, both better players.
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Re: Munster, The Money Pit Province 2019/2020

Postby tomthefan » July 29th, 2019, 12:43 pm

FLIP wrote:Viagra Stadium: for the team that can't get past a semi


TMI there flip! :lol:
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Re: Munster, The Money Pit Province 2019/2020

Postby FLIP » July 29th, 2019, 12:57 pm

tomthefan wrote:
FLIP wrote:Viagra Stadium: for the team that can't get past a semi


TMI there flip! :lol:


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