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Champions Cup 2020 - Standings\predictions

Postby MylesNaGapoleen » December 8th, 2019, 11:17 am

Lots more to play for..and probably a bit early to get this started, but, as I see it (points in brackets play later today).

Exeter (15)
Leinster 14
Toulouse (14)
Ulster 13
Racing 12
--------------- Pool Toppers
Munster 11
Clermont 11
Connaught (9)
==============

Fantasy prediction at the end of pool stages

Exeter 24
Leinster 23
Toulouse 22
Racing 20
Clermont 20
----------------- pool toppers
Ulster 18
Saracens 16
Northampton\Connacht 14
============= best 2nd place finishers
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Re: Champions Cup 2020 - Standings\predictions

Postby cormac » December 8th, 2019, 12:35 pm

MylesNaGapoleen wrote:Lots more to play for..and probably a bit early to get this started, but, as I see it (points in brackets play later today).

Exeter (15)
Leinster 14
Toulouse (14)
Ulster 13
Racing 12
--------------- Pool Toppers
Munster 11
Clermont 11
Connaught (9)
==============

Fantasy prediction at the end of pool stages

Exeter 24
Leinster 23
Toulouse 22
Racing 20
Clermont 20
----------------- pool toppers
Ulster 18
Saracens 16
Northampton\Connaught 14
============= best 2nd place finishers


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Re: Champions Cup 2020 - Standings\predictions

Postby MylesNaGapoleen » December 8th, 2019, 12:54 pm

d'oh! missed a round.

Fantasy prediction at the end of pool stages

Exeter 29
Leinster 28
Toulouse 26
Clermont 25
Racing 24
----------------- pool toppers
Saracens 20
Ulster 19
Northampton\Connacht 16
============= best 2nd place finishers

(wishful thinking)
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Re: Champions Cup 2020 - Standings\predictions

Postby D4surfer » December 8th, 2019, 2:57 pm

It’s Connacht.
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Re: Champions Cup 2020 - Standings\predictions

Postby MylesNaGapoleen » December 8th, 2019, 5:07 pm

D4surfer wrote:It’s Connacht.

Fixed that for ya
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Re: Champions Cup 2020 - Standings\predictions

Postby Twist » December 8th, 2019, 6:26 pm

No BP for Exeter today

Group leaders;

Leinster 14pts
Exeter 14pts
Toulouse 13pts
Racing 12pts
Ulster 12pts

Second place

Clermont 11pts
Munster 11pts
Saints 9pts
Glasgow 8pts
Gloucester 7pts
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Re: Champions Cup 2020 - Standings\predictions

Postby glenageary » December 9th, 2019, 10:14 am

Twist wrote:No BP for Exeter today

Group leaders;

Leinster 14pts
Exeter 14pts
Toulouse 13pts
Racing 12pts
Ulster 12pts

Second place

Clermont 11pts
Munster 11pts
Saints 9pts
Glasgow 8pts
Gloucester 7pts


So if it ended like this it would be Leinster vs Saints - again in QF - ok fine , but usually part of the fun is when we play different teams. I remember when Sarries hammered Glasgow and then got Glasgow again in the QFs. It make it repeative. Anyway 3 more round to go and lots will change. As Long as we sty top 2 I am ok. It was great results this weekend with us getting a 5 and Exeter/Toulouse limited to a 4pt result. Shame Sale didnt pull of the victory.
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Re: Champions Cup 2020 - Standings\predictions

Postby CiaranIrl » December 9th, 2019, 10:17 am

Is there a simulator/predictions site somewhere where you can guess results to see what the permutations look like?
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Re: Champions Cup 2020 - Standings\predictions

Postby Oldschool » December 9th, 2019, 12:24 pm

It's likely that Myles' original pool toppers will be the same although the most likely order now is-
Leinster
Exeter
Racing
Clermont
Toulouse

Ulster (A win away to Harlequins is their key game)
Glasgow (Their home game v Exeter is the key game)
Northampton maybe but there is a long list of alternatives.
As always BPs will decide, that LBP that Saracens got against Munster gives them a chance and has almost certainly cooked Munster's goose

If Glasgow qualify then Exeter will drop a place or two.
Leinster can help the Saints to qualify by getting well ahead next Saturday and then gifting then a TBP.
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Re: Champions Cup 2020 - Standings\predictions

Postby joooooe » December 9th, 2019, 12:31 pm

Oldschool wrote:It's likely that Myles' original pool toppers will be the same although the most likely order now is-
Leinster
Exeter
Racing
Clermont
Toulouse

Ulster (A win away to Harlequins is their key game)
Glasgow (Their home game v Exeter is the key game)
Northampton maybe but there is a long list of alternatives.
As always BPs will decide, that LBP that Saracens got against Munster gives them a chance and has almost certainly cooked Munster's goose

If Glasgow qualify then Exeter will drop a place or two.
Leinster can help the Saints to qualify by getting well ahead next Saturday and then gifting then a TBP.

Toulouse should be good for a top 4 seeding. They're 3-0 and in 13 points.
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Re: Champions Cup 2020 - Standings\predictions

Postby Mickado » December 9th, 2019, 12:42 pm

Leinster are ahead of Exeter on both tries scored and points difference, so right now we'd be first seeds.
Can I raise a practical question at this point? Are we gonna do "Stonehenge" tomorrow?
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Re: Champions Cup 2020 - Standings\predictions

Postby riocard911 » December 9th, 2019, 2:22 pm

Oldschool wrote:It's likely that Myles' original pool toppers will be the same although the most likely order now is-
Leinster
Exeter
Racing
Clermont
Toulouse

Ulster (A win away to Harlequins is their key game)
Glasgow (Their home game v Exeter is the key game)
Northampton maybe but there is a long list of alternatives.
As always BPs will decide, that LBP that Saracens got against Munster gives them a chance and has almost certainly cooked Munster's goose

If Glasgow qualify then Exeter will drop a place or two.
Leinster can help the Saints to qualify by getting well ahead next Saturday and then gifting then a TBP.


Our D has been so solid this season - barring the Treviso blip -, I reckon the Saints would have a better chance of just scraping a win, than actually putting four tries on us.
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Re: Champions Cup 2020 - Standings\predictions

Postby blockhead » December 9th, 2019, 11:58 pm

Blockheads Predicted QFinalists:

Leinster 28pts
Clermont 25pts
Exeter 24pts
Racing 21pts
Toulouse 18pts
Saracens 20pts
Glasgow 20pts
Northampton 19pts

QFs
Lein v N'hampton
Clermont v Glasgow
Exeter v Saracens
Racing v Toulouse

SFs
Lein v Racing
Clermont v Exeter
Final
Lein v Clermont
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Re: Champions Cup 2020 - Standings\predictions

Postby MylesNaGapoleen » December 11th, 2019, 8:59 am

blockhead wrote:Blockheads Predicted QFinalists:

Leinster 28pts
Clermont 25pts
Exeter 24pts
Racing 21pts
Toulouse 18pts
Saracens 20pts
Glasgow 20pts
Northampton 19pts

QFs
Lein v N'hampton
Clermont v Glasgow
Exeter v Saracens
Racing v Toulouse

SFs
Lein v Racing
Clermont v Exeter
Final
Lein v Clermont


Looks good BH. I am a little worried about when salarycens bring back their big-money players into their squad. Would love to see exeter see them off in the quarters, as you have predicted, but, am not so sure.
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Re: Champions Cup 2020 - Standings\predictions

Postby johng » December 11th, 2019, 9:18 am

I'm not sure current form Glasgow have it in them to beat Exeter. Even at home. But it's certainly not beyond the bounds.

If Ulster can win in the stoop this week I fancy them to get through instead of Glasgow.
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Re: Champions Cup 2020 - Standings\predictions

Postby Aird » December 12th, 2019, 2:32 pm

You might need to review your predictions when you view the team selection by Quins for the visit of Ulster on Friday night.
It seems that three games in and they may contrary to their press statement be concentrating on 5he Premiership.
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Re: Champions Cup 2020 - Standings\predictions

Postby blockhead » December 12th, 2019, 2:53 pm

Ulster are Ulster though, they always struggle away from Kingspan. Here's hoping, get the anglo-irish 4 way contest off to a flyer. We lead 3-1 from last week remember.
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Re: Champions Cup 2020 - Standings\predictions

Postby johng » December 12th, 2019, 3:34 pm

If Ulster CAN win though they have Bath in Ravers in rnd 6 to set up a qf
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Re: Champions Cup 2020 - Standings\predictions

Postby Oldschool » December 15th, 2019, 1:44 pm

So reflection.
Leinster
Exeter
Toulouse
Racing
Clermont
Ulster
Saracens
Glasgow/Northampton
Glasgow to nudge it because of the points conceded by Northampton against Leinster.
Northampton's only hope will be Lyon's mind set when round 6 comes round.
Actually maybe Saints will beat Lyon and Bennetton.
So Leinster v Saracens QF - An action replay would be nice
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Re: Champions Cup 2020 - Standings\predictions

Postby Ruckedtobits » December 15th, 2019, 3:35 pm

Oldschool wrote:So reflection.
Leinster
Exeter
Toulouse
Racing
Clermont
Ulster
Saracens
Glasgow/Northampton
Glasgow to nudge it because of the points conceded by Northampton against Leinster.
Northampton's only hope will be Lyon's mind set when round 6 comes round.
Actually maybe Saints will beat Lyon and Bennetton.
So Leinster v Saracens QF - An action replay would be nice


With Ulster already on 17 points and Bath to visit Ravenhill on the last weekend, I suspect that they might top their Pool which could alter the rankings.

Wouldn't mind having Saracens at home in the Q/F, because we'll probably have to beat them at some stage and at home will be better than anywhere else, particularly immediately after their English players have just returned from the 6N.
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