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The Popes Visit 2018

Postby Oldschool » August 1st, 2018, 9:47 am

It may be a bit early for this thread, however.
Here's hoping that the Pope and his organisers get the warm welcome they deserve.
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Re: The Popes Visit 2018

Postby Hornet » August 1st, 2018, 10:53 am

NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition! Amongst our weaponry are such diverse elements as: fear, surprise, ruthless efficiency, an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope, and nice red uniforms - Oh damn! I can't say it - you'll have to say it.
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Re: The Popes Visit 2018

Postby Dave Cahill » August 1st, 2018, 11:38 am

I thought it was just the one coming over.
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Re: The Popes Visit 2018

Postby Peg Leg » August 1st, 2018, 11:33 pm

Dave Cahill wrote:I thought it was just the one coming over.
My humble offering: '
"It was Mrs O'Leary's cow"
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Re: The Popes Visit 2018

Postby Ruckedtobits » August 2nd, 2018, 8:01 am

Peg Leg wrote:
Dave Cahill wrote:I thought it was just the one coming over.
My humble offering: '


An apposite response.
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Re: The Popes Visit 2018

Postby Peg Leg » August 2nd, 2018, 3:10 pm

Ruckedtobits wrote:
Peg Leg wrote:
Dave Cahill wrote:I thought it was just the one coming over.
My humble offering: '


An apposite response.
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Re: The Popes Visit 2018

Postby Lar » August 2nd, 2018, 4:57 pm

Is it not an apostrophe response?
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Re: The Popes Visit 2018

Postby cormac » August 4th, 2018, 5:50 pm

Oldschool wrote:It may be a bit early for this thread, however.
Here's hoping that the Pope and his organisers get the warm welcome they deserve.


Why do they deserve a warm welcome?
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Re: The Popes Visit 2018

Postby Jackie Brown » August 4th, 2018, 10:03 pm

cormac wrote:
Oldschool wrote:It may be a bit early for this thread, however.
Here's hoping that the Pope and his organisers get the warm welcome they deserve.


Why do they deserve a warm welcome?
No idea why you'd give him a warm welcome. Babies buried in septic tanks, vulnerable members of society shunned, Madeline Laundry's, selling orphans overseas. I'm surprised they have the brass neck to be stepping foot off a plane on this island.

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Re: The Popes Visit 2018

Postby Logorrhea » August 6th, 2018, 9:06 pm

Supposedly though, this pope is one of the good ones so all that old sh!t is just in the past.
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Re: The Popes Visit 2018

Postby Jackie Brown » August 6th, 2018, 10:37 pm

Logorrhea wrote:Supposedly though, this pope is one of the good ones so all that old sh!t is just in the past.
Lolz, yeah... It's the organisation, no one is saying the Pope threw unwanted babies in septic tanks.

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Re: The Popes Visit 2018

Postby blockhead » August 6th, 2018, 11:14 pm

Love the new Pope.

Top of the Popes, he be straight in at 3 or maybe 4. Behind JP2, of course, he had a million in the Pheeno back in 79. That's 3 Seasons of ticket sales for Leinster! Pope Alexander VI (a Borgia) was ahead of his time IMHO.
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Re: The Popes Visit 2018

Postby Oldschool » August 26th, 2018, 1:04 pm

One is left wondering, how will history or even next week's Sunday papers, record the visit.
He came, he left - Did he do anything.
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Re: The Popes Visit 2018

Postby Logorrhea » August 26th, 2018, 1:27 pm

Thought Varadkar spoke well and the choirs in Croke Park were pretty impressive
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Re: The Popes Visit 2018

Postby Ruckedtobits » August 26th, 2018, 8:03 pm

Our State yet again took the opportunity to ignore / deny / obfiscate the role that Government Departments of Education, Justice, Foreign Affairs and Health played in collaborating with the power and secrecy of the church bodies in Ireland in keeping a proportion of our population under extraordinary conditions of Industrial Schools. Mother & Baby Homes, Magdalene Laundres and informal and illegal processes of Adoption and baby 'sales'.

The State was aware, informally, of all these scandals but it suited the agenda of those who governed our country that the burden / duty / abuse of those who didn't fit the narrative of a compliant populace be suppressed. This included the majority who had suffered social or church abuse by being raped, or becoming pregnant by the abuse of position or physical coercion.

In many of the institutional settings referred to, it merely required the signature of two of the local 'authorities', Parish Priest, Local Sargeant or local GP, to condemn a young girl or a young mother or an ill-disciplined boy to one of these settings. Because the institutions were under the control and operation of church bodies, congregations for the most part, objections to such nefarious actions were condemned with the threat of eternal damnation and the immediate sanction of becoming a social outcast.

Ireland has changed remarkably in twenty years, but whilst those who still remember, or those who heard from survivors, still remain, the responsibility exists to give witness to the true story and full context of how badly our Church and State authorities abused those who did not fit the definition of 'normal society' espoused by Dev Valera, Cosgrave and his generation and their successors, right up to the mid-nineties. The populous may have been so relieved that the Civil War had abated that no other abberant behavious mattered, but those politicans who governed in those decades allowed horrendous social abuse.

It is not a pleasant story and it will cause pain in being exposed. It will require acknowlegment by Church, State and society. But none of the three parties can point the finger at others and say "it wasn't our fault". All parties must accept their part in this horror story.
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Re: The Popes Visit 2018

Postby Oldschool » August 26th, 2018, 8:41 pm

Good post RTB.
What it all goes to prove is that denial and omission are the greatest sins and they're not even mentioned in the 12 commandments although false witness might cover it.
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Re: The Popes Visit 2018

Postby ronk » August 27th, 2018, 10:57 pm

Ruckedtobits wrote:

All parties must accept their part in this horror story.


None fully have, the Church have come closest. Not entirely voluntarily either.
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Re: The Popes Visit 2018

Postby Hippo » August 30th, 2018, 6:00 pm

Excellent post RTB
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Re: The Popes Visit 2018

Postby tomthefan » August 30th, 2018, 6:54 pm

It's almost like those people weren't considered fully human the way they were treated.
Couldn't happen in today's more enlightened Ireland.
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Re: The Popes Visit 2018

Postby johng » August 30th, 2018, 7:13 pm

Yeah. Direct provisioning is a myth. And sure they're not even Irish
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