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Postby mildlyinterested » November 21st, 2017, 10:27 am

Senior leagues are nearing and end at the moment..

Gonzaga are undefeated to date(5 wins, 1 draw) along with Roscrea(4 win, 1 draw) and Gerards(4 wins)

St. Michaels are as strong as usual in preseason with recent wins over Belvedere and Blackrock.

David Hawkshaw returns to try and win his 3rd senior cup at 10.
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Re: Schools Rugby 17-18

Postby El Diablo » November 28th, 2017, 10:28 am

mildlyinterested wrote:Senior leagues are nearing and end at the moment..

Gonzaga are undefeated to date(5 wins, 1 draw) along with Roscrea(4 win, 1 draw) and Gerards(4 wins)

St. Michaels are as strong as usual in preseason with recent wins over Belvedere and Blackrock.

David Hawkshaw returns to try and win his 3rd senior cup at 10.

Is Liam Turner captaining Blackrock? It will be his 3rd SCT campaign so he would be the natural choice.
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Re: Schools Rugby 17-18

Postby mildlyinterested » November 28th, 2017, 8:13 pm

Yeah he is..
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Re: Schools Rugby 17-18

Postby mildlyinterested » December 11th, 2017, 9:05 pm

Leinster Senior Cup first round draw:

Belvedere College v Gonzaga College
Terenure College v St Michael’s College
Vinnie Murray qualifier 2 v Roscrea
St Fintan’s High School v St Gerard’s
Blackrock College v Castleknock College
Newbridge College v Presentation College Bray
Clongowes Wood College v Vinnie Murray qualifier 1
St Mary’s College v St Andrew’s College

Michaels have been form team in preseason but nothing new there, have the most talented 1-23.

Belvo have the most talented player in David Hawkshaw who is attempting to win his 3rd senior cup at starting 10.

Blackrock have been heavily affected by injury but will be very hard to beat come cup time.
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Schools Rugby 17-18

Postby A16 » December 30th, 2017, 12:39 am

mildlyinterested wrote:Leinster Senior Cup first round draw:

Belvedere College v Gonzaga College
Terenure College v St Michael’s College
Vinnie Murray qualifier 2 v Roscrea
St Fintan’s High School v St Gerard’s
Blackrock College v Castleknock College
Newbridge College v Presentation College Bray
Clongowes Wood College v Vinnie Murray qualifier 1
St Mary’s College v St Andrew’s College

Michaels have been form team in preseason but nothing new there, have the most talented 1-23.

Belvo have the most talented player in David Hawkshaw who is attempting to win his 3rd senior cup at starting 10.

Blackrock have been heavily affected by injury but will be very hard to beat come cup time.


What would you say the reason behind Michaels’ lack of success In the cup, relative to the amount of talent they have is? It’s pretty difficult to explain, since so many of the players in each of their teams have gone on to play professionally.
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Re: Schools Rugby 17-18

Postby mildlyinterested » January 4th, 2018, 4:48 pm

A16 wrote:
mildlyinterested wrote:Leinster Senior Cup first round draw:

Belvedere College v Gonzaga College
Terenure College v St Michael’s College
Vinnie Murray qualifier 2 v Roscrea
St Fintan’s High School v St Gerard’s
Blackrock College v Castleknock College
Newbridge College v Presentation College Bray
Clongowes Wood College v Vinnie Murray qualifier 1
St Mary’s College v St Andrew’s College

Michaels have been form team in preseason but nothing new there, have the most talented 1-23.

Belvo have the most talented player in David Hawkshaw who is attempting to win his 3rd senior cup at starting 10.

Blackrock have been heavily affected by injury but will be very hard to beat come cup time.


What would you say the reason behind Michaels’ lack of success In the cup, relative to the amount of talent they have is? It’s pretty difficult to explain, since so many of the players in each of their teams have gone on to play professionally.


the majority of their current pros were pretty successful in school when they won one cup and lost another in the final.

they were poorly coached when Ryan/Deegan were in 5th/6th year and under performed.
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Re: Schools Rugby 17-18

Postby A16 » January 4th, 2018, 6:12 pm

mildlyinterested wrote:
A16 wrote:
mildlyinterested wrote:Leinster Senior Cup first round draw:

Belvedere College v Gonzaga College
Terenure College v St Michael’s College
Vinnie Murray qualifier 2 v Roscrea
St Fintan’s High School v St Gerard’s
Blackrock College v Castleknock College
Newbridge College v Presentation College Bray
Clongowes Wood College v Vinnie Murray qualifier 1
St Mary’s College v St Andrew’s College

Michaels have been form team in preseason but nothing new there, have the most talented 1-23.

Belvo have the most talented player in David Hawkshaw who is attempting to win his 3rd senior cup at starting 10.

Blackrock have been heavily affected by injury but will be very hard to beat come cup time.


What would you say the reason behind Michaels’ lack of success In the cup, relative to the amount of talent they have is? It’s pretty difficult to explain, since so many of the players in each of their teams have gone on to play professionally.


the majority of their current pros were pretty successful in school when they won one cup and lost another in the final.

they were poorly coached when Ryan/Deegan were in 5th/6th year and under performed.


Yeah it’s pretty reasonable when you put it that way to your credit. They have been in a lot of finals which obscures it, although 1 senior cup in the past 10 years is a pretty poor output.
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Re: Schools Rugby 17-18

Postby johng » January 4th, 2018, 11:38 pm

Aren't they a far smaller school than say... Rock though. Wbich means that although they turn out a phenomenal number of quality players they are less likely to have 30 of them at the same time in one sct
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Postby A16 » January 5th, 2018, 12:14 am

johng wrote:Aren't they a far smaller school than say... Rock though. Wbich means that although they turn out a phenomenal number of quality players they are less likely to have 30 of them at the same time in one sct


Yeah they have roughly 100 per year, and Blackrock have 200 per year, so Blackrock have a playing pool of 600 to choose from, while Michael’s have 300. The number of players they’ve produced is pretty amazing with regards to those figures. And a lot more in the system as well, there are probably 3 future pros leaving school this year.
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Re: Schools Rugby 17-18

Postby mildlyinterested » January 5th, 2018, 9:31 am

A16 wrote:
johng wrote:Aren't they a far smaller school than say... Rock though. Wbich means that although they turn out a phenomenal number of quality players they are less likely to have 30 of them at the same time in one sct


Yeah they have roughly 100 per year, and Blackrock have 200 per year, so Blackrock have a playing pool of 600 to choose from, while Michael’s have 300. The number of players they’ve produced is pretty amazing with regards to those figures. And a lot more in the system as well, there are probably 3 future pros leaving school this year.


probably 4 future academy players in Baird, Penny, O'Donovan and Ryan.
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Re: Schools Rugby 17-18

Postby cormac » January 14th, 2018, 11:12 pm

Look out Itchy, he's Irish
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Re: Schools Rugby 17-18

Postby mildlyinterested » January 15th, 2018, 1:50 pm

cormac wrote:https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/schools-rugby/two-or-three-per-cent-of-each-year-go-professional-at-the-moment-how-one-school-has-become-irish-rugbys-biggest-production-line-36482484.html


great breakdown.
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Postby A16 » January 15th, 2018, 7:42 pm

Yeah a lot of money has been invested in it. The difference between the pitches before and after they improved them is pretty staggering, which you can see here.

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Re: Schools Rugby 17-18

Postby mildlyinterested » January 17th, 2018, 12:12 pm

Fr. Godfrey Cup Results

Dundalk Grammar 48 Mount Temple 0
CBS Enniscorthy 29 Kings Hospital 8
Gormanstown College 14 Wilsons Hospital 18
Pres Bray 14 Scoil Chonglais Baltinglass 23
St. Pats Navan 10 Gorey 21
St. Andrews 19 Kilkenny College 31
Wesley College 31 High School 8
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Re: Schools Rugby 17-18

Postby mildlyinterested » January 17th, 2018, 12:13 pm

Bank of Ireland Vinnie Murray Cup – 1st Round
Wilsons Hospital 0 CBC Monkstown 43
Colaiste Bride Carnew 0 Kilkenny College 47
St. Pats Navan 12 Wesley College 29
High School 12 Mount Temple 12
CUS 27 Dundalk Grammar 0
Gorey CS 5 Kings Hospital 34
Salesian 12 Skerries 12
High School 22 Mount Temple 10


Bank of Ireland Vinnie Murray Cup – 2nd Round

Salesian College v CBC Monkstown (KO 2 pm, Donnybrook)
College v Kilkenny College (KO 4pm, Donnybrook)
Newpark Comprehensive v CUS (KO 3pm, Donnybrook)
The King’s Hospital v The High School (KO 3pm, Donnybrook)
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