J4 Rugby Metro League

[BlueBlue]

If there is a trend of teams not contesting scrums they will be questioned on it and may have points deducted.

[Donny B.]

If there is a trend of teams not contesting scrums they will be questioned on it and may have points deducted.

Hasn't happend so far. And some teams are completely taking the piss at this stage.

[combatlogo]

If there is a trend of teams not contesting scrums they will be questioned on it and may have points deducted.

Hasn't happend so far. And some teams are completely taking the piss at this stage.

Either points deduction or that trial they did in France - go to uncontested scrums, you lose a player.

[Donny B.]

If there is a trend of teams not contesting scrums they will be questioned on it and may have points deducted.

Hasn't happend so far. And some teams are completely taking the piss at this stage.

Either points deduction or that trial they did in France - go to uncontested scrums, you lose a player.

Personally, I think teams should have one game per season where they can go uncontested without penalty, but after that you lose half your match points. At the moment teams are turning up, taking one look at our big props and saying they have to go uncontested (even though you can see their props standing on the sideline). It's purely cynical gamesmanship and only the threat of points deduction will remove it. One team, which I won't name, tried it on with us. Their coach said they had injuries and couldn't scrummage and our coach said "that's fine, you didn't give me 48 hours notice so I'll take the points!" Now our coach was spoofing but the other coach didn't know this so he then said "Okay, we will scrummage then!" When asked about his injured props he said "ah, they'll be grand!" This is how blatant it is!!!

[Soundgav2]

There were fully contested scrums in the Marys-Tallaght game on Sat!

[Donny B.]

There were fully contested scrums in the Marys-Tallaght game on Sat!

Good to hear, although not that it did us any bloody good!!!

[Donny B.]

Anyone know if the Section A top of the table clash between Marys and Belvo went ahead last night? No result up on the Leinster website.

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Belvo won 9/8.

[Donny B.]

Belvo won 9/8.

Cheers! Sounds like a muddy one!!

[Leinsterman]

Either points deduction or that trial they did in France - go to uncontested scrums, you lose a player.

Points deductions will simply annoy teams and players will drift away. Unfortunately we can't have it both ways.
I agree that some teams take the proverbial but in many cases at lower levels, teams genuinely struggle to field props.
Remember, it's J4 rugby ... not exactly full of prime athletes at the peak of their powers.

It's a problem that will remain for a while yet though

[Donny B.]

Either points deduction or that trial they did in France - go to uncontested scrums, you lose a player.

Points deductions will simply annoy teams and players will drift away. Unfortunately we can't have it both ways.
I agree that some teams take the proverbial but in many cases at lower levels, teams genuinely struggle to field props.
Remember, it's J4 rugby ... not exactly full of prime athletes at the peak of their powers.

It's a problem that will remain for a while yet though

That should make it easier to find props, not harder!!!

It's a problem that will remain as long as teams are allowed to continually take the piss. It's like a football team turning up with no tall fellas to play centre back and saying "we're not heading the ball today lads, to the feet only".

If we'll lose players who will only play when they have nice uncontested scrums, they'll be no loss!

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Pool A Blackrock 30, Coolmine 103.can this be true ?,has any Blackrock team,club or school ever conceded 100 points ?

[Donny B.]

Pool A Blackrock 30, Coolmine 103.can this be true ?,has any Blackrock team,club or school ever conceded 100 points ?

Wow! I know Rock have been stuggling this year but that's incredible!

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Something that is really starting to annoy me is the "scorlines" some of the refs come up with. Several times this season the result on the website has shaved the odd try off the real score. Are some of the refs really unable to count, or is there an attitude among a few of rounding down?

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Whats going on with Blackrock j4 ? A few weeks ago they concede 100 points to Coolmine,yet last saturday they beat league leaders Belvedere.

[Donny B.]

Whats going on with Blackrock j4 ? A few weeks ago they concede 100 points to Coolmine,yet last saturday they beat league leaders Belvedere.

Remarkable turnaround alright! Perhaps they got some players back from last season cause they were excellent then.

[gleesonisgod]

Whats going on with Blackrock j4 ? A few weeks ago they concede 100 points to Coolmine,yet last saturday they beat league leaders Belvedere.

I didn't think you could be serious so I looked it up! 103-30! That is incredible! And considering the standard of kicking at this level I'm guessing only around 20 odd came from the boot. And how did they manage to score 30 if they were that bad! I'd say it was hilarious to watch.

[Darce]

Whats going on with Blackrock j4 ? A few weeks ago they concede 100 points to Coolmine,yet last saturday they beat league leaders Belvedere.

Remarkable turnaround alright! Perhaps they got some players back from last season cause they were excellent then.

Not really. We've been struggling for numbers. Pure and simple.

We got some fresh bodies down post new years and actually held a training session and got some issues sorted.

To be honest we've let the club down and theres a hunger to turn things around. Also, I dont think Belvo's attitude was what it should have been on Sat. Naturally, they thought they were odds on and then couldn't lift it when they were being blown away for the first 40mins.

[Jonathan]

After another weekend of matches, can someone please tell me why there are clubs out there that will not scrummage??

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After another weekend of matches, can someone please tell me why there are clubs out there that will not scrummage??

It's a joke alright. I'd say anything up to 40% of games at this level start with uncontested scrums.