Not Releasing wrote:From talking to the lads who played we started well and finished well shite inbetween and Damien Broughall was the most impressive player from Leinster.
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Best for Leinster were Eamon Hyland and John Phelan up front, with Barry Lynn, Bevan Duffy and Niall O’Donoghue the pick of the outside backs.
Don't see Broughals name as being one of the stand out players for Leinster. He'd be kind of hard to miss on the pitch if he was the most impressive! That wouldn't be a bit of CD talking up one of their own would it?? When is the team being announced for the Ulster match?
Not Releasing is a Boyne member, you lads over in Rosetown would want to lose that chip on the shoulder
Experience is the name everyone gives to their failures
Verso was not in the original 22, he was he not a late call-up due to Ross McAuley having to play a play-off game with Skerries. Verso is a versatile player that has played back-row for Seapoint and Blackrock.
The French pulled up the Scots' kilts and discovered they had no balls - Zinzan Brooke
So Leinster had a complete from row on the bench, Clifford is primarily a loose head but played and did well against Wesley as hooker. In a 22 man squad does that not happen a lot or am I missing something?
The French pulled up the Scots' kilts and discovered they had no balls - Zinzan Brooke
Why would I care where he was from maybe they meant Hyland, you should be more worried about Newbridges form since Christmas hammer twice by Portlaoise and Division 2 side Clondalkin.
Jesus we're all a bit touchy aren't we! Did the go unnoticed. And why praytell why should I be worried about Newbridges form since Christmas, the season is over, we got promoted, granted we lost a couple of matches along the way but all in all, everyone in Rosetown is pretty happy. Now we build towards next season.
15: Niall O'Donoghue (Coolmine)
14: Johnny Butterworth (Arklow)
13: Bevan Duffy (Boyne)
12: Kieron Howlin (New Ross)
11: David Murphy (Portarlington)
10: Barry Lynn (Wicklow)
9: Gavin Kennedy (Ashbourne)
1: Mark Southern (Newbridge)
2: James Clifford (Monkstown)
3: Barry White (Cill Dara)
4: Marcus Stewart (Monkstown)
5: Brendan Kelly (Enniscorthy)
6: Eamonn Hyland (Cill Dara)
7: Ross McCauley (Skerries)
8: John Phelan (Kilkenny) CAPTAIN
REPLACEMENTS:
16: Cillian Duffy (Boyne)
17: Ger Moore (Cill Dara)
18: Luke Goff (Enniscorthy)
19: Sean Wall (Enniscorthy)
20: Johnny Downey (Newbridge)
21: Brian Collins (Boyne)
22: Gearoid McDonald (Dundalk
Looks like there is a good couple of changes to the side
[quote="The Galloping Ghost"][quote="Not Releasing"]From talking to the lads who played we started well and finished well shite inbetween and Damien Broughall was the most impressive player from Leinster.
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I thought Broughall had a big game (can't remember what stage he came on at). He carried very well and sucked in a couple of defenders every time. Hadn't seen him play since under-20 days. He was lifting in the lineout, almost had the jumper in orbit!
There was a feeling of déjà vu in Creggs on Saturday as the Leinster Juniors replicated their form of the previous Saturday with a strong start, wayward middle and strong finish this time against an experienced Connacht team to win 23-17...
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Barry Lynn starting at 10 really brought the game to Connacht with strong running and clever positional kicks in behind the Connacht back three. Leinster dominated the opening exchanges but couldn’t break down a resolute Connacht defence and apart from a couple kicks from distance which fell short didn’t look like scoring.
Connacht though were growing in confidence and after break in play for treatment to a touch judge restarted on fire and with their first sortie into the Leinster 22 scored under the posts after a half-break by Paddy Pearson and a lovely off-load to Jordan Farringdon who scored under the posts, Pearson added the extras. Leinster though responded well and after good work in the tight Connacht were caught off-side and with the referee playing advantage Barry Lynn knocked over a drop-goal.
Shortly after the re-start Johnny Butterworth was sent to the bin for a late tackle, Connacht kicked to the corner, from the ensuing line-out they drove for the line and despite Leinster’s best efforts after a couple of attempts, they eventually picked and got over the line with Eoin Rooney getting the vital touch down, again Pearson added the extra points. Deep into injury time Connacht Captain Kevin Higgins joined Butterworth in the bin for cynical play at a ruck, Connacht were further punished when Lynn knocked over the 3 points from this penalty leaving the score 14-6 in Connacht’s favour at half-time.
Leinster upped the intensity and tempo after the half-time break and Connacht struggled with the pace and started conceding penalties, it was from one of these penalties that Lynn knocked over another 3 points to bring Leinster within 5 of their hosts. But credit to Connacht, they responded well and started to put Leinster on the back foot, the Leinster defence was creaking and this time Leinster Captain John Phelan was sent to the bin for cynical play, Pearson like Lynn before punished Leinster with 3 points from this penalty.
Connacht were well worth their lead of 17-9 lead at this stage and were firmly in the driving seat. Leinster needed a change in direction and the introduction of Brian Collins was the catalyst suddenly turn-over ball was been run back with more venom and it was from one such turn-over that Collins ran from his own 22, with a clever kick through Devitt won the foot race to get his boot to the ball with Niall O’Donoghue collecting and feeding back inside to Devitt who touched down.
With 15 minutes to go it was a 1 point game but Connacht still tried to play an expansive game and just when they looked like they had manufactured an over-lap the excellent Bevan Duffy intercepted at close-counters to run 60 meters to touch down under posts. Leinster were in front 23–17 and Connacht looked beaten and with clever kicking from scrum-half Kennedy and Collins they kept Connacht pinned in their own half and finished out the game quite comfortably.
Best for Leinster behind the scrum were Barry Lynn, Johnny Butterworth and Bevan Duffy with Ger Moore, Brendan Kelly and John Phelan the pick of the forwards but it was Ross McAuley who was Leinster’s star with a massive performance from start to finish.
The Leinster management would like to extend their thanks to Creggs RFC for their excellent facilities and a pitch that was in superb condition.
LEINSTER JUNIORS:
15: Niall O'Donoghue (Coolmine)
14: Johnny Butterworth (Arklow)
13: Bevan Duffy (Boyne)
12: Kieron Howlin (New Ross)
11: David Murphy (Portarlington)
10: Barry Lynn (Wicklow)
9: Gavin Kennedy (Ashbourne)
1: Mark Southern (Newbridge)
2: James Clifford (Monkstown)
3: Barry White (Cill Dara)
4: Marcus Stewart (Monkstown)
5: Brendan Kelly (Enniscorthy)
6: Eamonn Hyland (Cill Dara)
7: Ross McCauley (Skerries)
8: John Phelan (Kilkenny) CAPTAIN
REPLACEMENTS:
16: Cillian Duffy (Boyne)
17: Ger Moore (Cill Dara)
18: Luke Goff (Enniscorthy)
19: Sean Wall (Enniscorthy)
20: Johnny Downey (Newbridge)
21: Brian Collins (Boyne)
22: Gearoid McDonald (Dundalk)
Experience is the name everyone gives to their failures
The Leinster Juniors beat the Ulster Juniors 32-14 on Saturday in Coleraine to retain the Junior Interprovincial title and the McGee Cup that accompanies it...
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Having drawn with Munster (15-15) and beaten Connacht (23-17) in the opening two rounds, Declan O’Brien’s Leinster side went into the Ulster game as outsiders to retain their title but his young side responded to the challenge and their 4 try demolition of Ulster allied with Connacht’s surprise 25-24 victory over Munster in Ballincollig ensured the McGee cup was returning home.
They led Ulster 10-7 at half-time with Arklow’s Johnny Butterworth touching down for a try with Wicklow’s Barry Lynn kicking a penalty and conversion to Ulster’s converted try. Lynn though broke his hand just before half-time and had to be replaced by 19 year old Harry Kennedy from Boyne.
Leinster started the second half well with Cill Dara’s Damien Broughall touching down for a try with Boyne’s Brian Collins added the extras. Leinster suffered a blow shortly after though with Collins having to retire due to an ankle injury. He was replaced by 18 year old fellow Louth man Dundalk’s Gearoid McDonald whose first job was to knock over a penalty to leave Leinster leading 20-7.
Ulster, who lost 21-14 to Munster last time out, edged closer to Leinster with a second converted try.
At 20-14 and with 20 minutes left the game was in the melting pot but has been their forte in this series Leinster finished very strongly with replacement scrum-half Peter Sutton from Newbridge touching down for Leinster’s 3rd try. With minutes left on the clock and after great work from Portarlington’s David Murphy Leinster added the coup de grace with McDonald touching down for his team’s fourth try.
James Clifford and Eamon Hyland were excellent up front for Leinster with David Murphy and Johnny Butterworth the pick of the backs but it was Leinster young replacements Peter Sutton, Harry Kennedy and Gearoid McDonald who turned the game in Leinster’s favour with their energy, enthusiasm and energy that epitomised Leinster Juniors this year.
Afterwards Kilkenny clubman John Phelan was presented with the championship trophy and the Leinster management would like to thank Coleraine RFC for their excellent facilities and indeed were excellent hosts overall.
Leinster awarded 20 new caps over the 3 games and their policy of youth paid dividends, the average age of the Leinster back-line was 21.
Champions Leinster used 30 representatives from 16 different clubs during the 2010 campaign, which is a significant testament to the players on how well they gelled together in such a short space of time.
The province's five selectors - David Coughlan, Mick Clavin, Trevor Wardrop, Bill Douglas and Ger McDonald - had some vital insight and input into this fresh Leinster set-up.
LEINSTER:
1. James Clifford (Monkstown)
2. Ger Moore (Cill Dara)
3. Mark Southern (Newbridge)
4. Brendan Kelly (Enniscorthy)
5. Eamon Hyland (Cill Dara)
6. John Phelan (Kilkenny)
7. Ross McAuley (Skerries)
8. Damien Broughall (Cill Dara)
9. Gavin Kennedy (Ashbourne)
10. Brian Collins (Boyne)
11. David Murphy (Portarlington)
12. Barry Lynn (Wicklow)
13. Bevan Duffy (Boyne)
14. Johnny Butterworth (Arklow)
15. Niall O'Donoghue (Coolmine)
REPLACEMENTS:
16. Luke Goff (Enniscorthy) for Ger Moore
17. Stephen Soraghan (Dundalk) for Mark Southern
18. Sean Wall (Enniscorthy) for Brendan Kelly
19. Peter Sutton (Newbridge) for Gavin Kennedy
20. Kieran Howlin (New Ross)
21. Harry Kennedy (Boyne) for Barry Lynn
22. Gearoid McDonald (Dundalk) for Brian Collins
23. Paul Devitt (Skerries)
24. Mark Whelan (Wexford) for Ross McAuley
MANAGEMENT:
Declan O’Brien - Head Coach
Maurice Logue - Assistant Coach
Noel Ferguson - Kit Manager
Joe Duffy - Fitness and Conditioning Coach
Barry Kehoe - Physio
Ger Ryan - Medic
Enda Finn - Manager
I'm glad to see the work that went into the Juniors this year, hope that a serious level of commitment for this team to actually mean something continues. Would be nice if all the branches followed suit. Surprised by the omission of the loose head from Dundalk, Dorian. Was he injured or are the others that good. If so surely they must be drawing the attention of senior clubs.
Surprised by the omission of the loose head from Dundalk, Dorian. Was he injured or are the others that good. If so surely they must be drawing the attention of senior clubs
I think the lure of senior clubs is not what it once was what with the diminishing status of the AIL league (particularly outside div 1a and b) and also due to the current economic times, senior clubs are less likely to be offering sweeteners. They are I would say dozens of players playing in the Leinster League who would be capable of playing senior rugby, particularly div 2 and 3
It's a fair point. Most teams in LL Div 1a would hold their own in AIL 3. That's not the problem. The problem is the expense involved in transporting, feeding and hoteling a team the length and bredth of the country on an almost fortnightly basis. Most clubs in LL Div 1a won't admit it be they fear going senior for that reason alone. Making the step up to AIl also seems to destroy the clubs 2'nd side. Whatever about a clubs 1'st team the 2'ds certainly have no interest in travelling all over the country every second sayurday. Witness Navan seconds... It's a problem that needs looking at. Don't know that the answer is...
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theflash wrote:It's a fair point. Most teams in LL Div 1a would hold their own in AIL 3. That's not the problem. The problem is the expense involved in transporting, feeding and hoteling a team the length and bredth of the country on an almost fortnightly basis. Most clubs in LL Div 1a won't admit it be they fear going senior for that reason alone. Making the step up to AIl also seems to destroy the clubs 2'nd side. Whatever about a clubs 1'st team the 2'ds certainly have no interest in travelling all over the country every second sayurday. Witness Navan seconds... It's a problem that needs looking at. Don't know that the answer is...
AIL 2nd teams, or J1s to be more accurate, dont travel all over the country. I will agree that there are some problems with it: 1) the matches are on Sundays, not Saturdays; 2) Senior clubs J1 teams play in the Metro J1 league. The second of these points is the most embarassing. It confirms the comments of many that Leinster rugby is Dublin rugby in the eyes of some in the corridors of power. Of Navan's 7 away matches, 5 were in Dublin, 1 in Wicklow and 1 in Kildare (barely). I presume Carlow aren't in it because of that fact.
A possible solution is to let Senior J1 teams enter the Leinster Leagues. If Leinster League Div 1A teams would challenge most AIL Div 3 teams then their J1s wouldn't be good enough for this league and after a couple of years would find their correct ability level.
I don't agree that Senior clubs do not hold an appeal to many Junior players. Surely if you are young and ambitious you want to see how far you can go. You only have to go on the website of any senior dublin club to see how many of their players began their career at a junior club
I don't agree that Senior clubs do not hold an appeal to many Junior players.
Nobody said there wasnt an attraction Durkah Durkah. What I said was that their was now "less of a lure" to the senior clubs. Obviously if your in your late teens early 20's and your standing out for your Junior club the attraction of seeing how far you can go is very appealing. I was referring more to the mid 20's guys who had maybe played senior or could play senior but are now more than happy to play for their local Junior club, the appeal of a Senior club has definately weakened for these guys
Durkah Durkah wrote:I'm glad to see the work that went into the Juniors this year, hope that a serious level of commitment for this team to actually mean something continues. Would be nice if all the branches followed suit. Surprised by the omission of the loose head from Dundalk, Dorian. Was he injured or are the others that good. If so surely they must be drawing the attention of senior clubs.
From what i heard the props were droping like flies the loose head in the last match was there last year as well there are alot of fella you expect to see there but maybe they had other commitments
Most junior clubs are based outside the big catchment areas like dublin limeick and cork so most of the players are playing for local teams and since there no jobs anywhere i would be surprized not to see much interchaning in the next year. PLus the big clubs are starting to tighten the purse strings.
When is the team being announced for the Ulster match?
