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Re: Age Grade Interpros

Postby goreyguy » April 19th, 2016, 1:23 pm

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Turner's only in TY isn't he? I also saw him on crutches after a previous Irish appearance. The kid has it for sure, his size may be an issue as he moves up the age grades.


Yeah he is in TY and is pretty small like Larmour. Could be a problem at higher levels, you'd hope he'd get a growth spurt before he finishes school


Think he might have had that already and he's already taller than his parents. Larmour's obviously topped out too and although he's probably the best outside back I've seen in school rugby since Luke you just wonder whether a frame that small can take the demands of the modern game. Obviously hope I'm wrong, particularly as both are really nice lads.


You'd hope their size wouldn't be a barrier but it very well could be.
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Re: Age Grade Interpros

Postby goreyguy » April 19th, 2016, 1:43 pm

Apparently there will be under 20 camps this summer but no interpros for the 20's, instead there will be a development interpro series to include most academy players.
However that will work I don't know, also not really sure the point of it.
If academy players are playing ahead of the most promising u20's, how are they going to get gametime?
Maybe it's just sub-academy teams?
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Re: Age Grade Interpros

Postby the spoofer » April 19th, 2016, 1:53 pm

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the spoofer wrote:The Nucifora clause is clearly at work with hardly any/no club players involved. Watch youth numbers drop off in coming years.


in what team? Ireland u18?


Well that Leinster U18 team for starters.
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Re: Age Grade Interpros

Postby goreyguy » April 19th, 2016, 1:58 pm

the spoofer wrote:
goreyguy wrote:
the spoofer wrote:The Nucifora clause is clearly at work with hardly any/no club players involved. Watch youth numbers drop off in coming years.


in what team? Ireland u18?


Well that Leinster U18 team for starters.


that was a schools only team... there was a leinster u18 club team playing this easter aswell., they lost heavily to France
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Re: Age Grade Interpros

Postby goreyguy » May 24th, 2016, 11:25 am

54 underage internationals this season:

9 Props.
5 Hookers.
7 Second Rows.
11 Backrow.
2 Scrumhalves.
3 Outhalves.
6 Centres.
11 Wings/Fullbacks.
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Re: Age Grade Interpros

Postby goreyguy » July 5th, 2016, 11:01 am

A lot of players pulled out of summer training with Leinster 20's.
Heard it's mostly down to players feeling that it's too much of a time commitment for no financial reward. Many choosing to work for the summer instead.
5 days a week for no financial reward is asking a lot.
Michael Milne(u18), Jack Aungier(u19) & Hugh O'Sullivan(u19) training with the u20's at the moment, I expect a few other lads are too, to make up numbers for those who dropped out.
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Re: Age Grade Interpros

Postby El Diablo » July 21st, 2016, 10:50 pm

goreyguy wrote:A lot of players pulled out of summer training with Leinster 20's.
Heard it's mostly down to players feeling that it's too much of a time commitment for no financial reward. Many choosing to work for the summer instead.
5 days a week for no financial reward is asking a lot.
Michael Milne(u18), Jack Aungier(u19) & Hugh O'Sullivan(u19) training with the u20's at the moment, I expect a few other lads are too, to make up numbers for those who dropped out.

Many of the u19 & u20s are Leaving Cert year. It is crazy to expect LC students to go from little or no training for a couple of months followed by a couple of weeks of post-exam partying, come back from Shagaluf in early July and expect them to be ready for full on Leinster matches within 3 weeks. That is a recipe for an injury plagued season in my opinion. They would be much better off working on their S&C and do a proper pre-season with a club team.
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Re: Age Grade Interpros

Postby ormond lad » July 22nd, 2016, 10:40 am

El Diablo wrote:
goreyguy wrote:A lot of players pulled out of summer training with Leinster 20's.
Heard it's mostly down to players feeling that it's too much of a time commitment for no financial reward. Many choosing to work for the summer instead.
5 days a week for no financial reward is asking a lot.
Michael Milne(u18), Jack Aungier(u19) & Hugh O'Sullivan(u19) training with the u20's at the moment, I expect a few other lads are too, to make up numbers for those who dropped out.

Many of the u19 & u20s are Leaving Cert year. It is crazy to expect LC students to go from little or no training for a couple of months followed by a couple of weeks of post-exam partying, come back from Shagaluf in early July and expect them to be ready for full on Leinster matches within 3 weeks. That is a recipe for an injury plagued season in my opinion. They would be much better off working on their S&C and do a proper pre-season with a club team.
People complain about skills not being as good, you want players to progress and this is clearly felt as needed for progression. But what else would you like to happen.
What do you propose that is better than this?
You want the levels of these games to be as high as possible. What do you change to improve things from where they are now?
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Re: Age Grade Interpros

Postby Oldschoolsocks » August 3rd, 2016, 4:39 pm

El Diablo wrote:
goreyguy wrote:A lot of players pulled out of summer training with Leinster 20's.
Heard it's mostly down to players feeling that it's too much of a time commitment for no financial reward. Many choosing to work for the summer instead.
5 days a week for no financial reward is asking a lot.
Michael Milne(u18), Jack Aungier(u19) & Hugh O'Sullivan(u19) training with the u20's at the moment, I expect a few other lads are too, to make up numbers for those who dropped out.

Many of the u19 & u20s are Leaving Cert year. It is crazy to expect LC students to go from little or no training for a couple of months followed by a couple of weeks of post-exam partying, come back from Shagaluf in early July and expect them to be ready for full on Leinster matches within 3 weeks. That is a recipe for an injury plagued season in my opinion. They would be much better off working on their S&C and do a proper pre-season with a club team.


Without wanting to sound smart:
1: what in all tarnation is an under 20 doing in his leaving certain year?
2: there should be an element of physical activity while studying
C: at less than 20 years old any healthy male should have the requisite recovery levels to be there or thereabouts after three weeks from a cardio vascular POV
IV: if taking this seriously any youngfella would prob hit the gym 3 or 4 times per week even on holidays, so they should be meaty enough after Shagaluf. If they don't then they're prob not really that interested anyway and prob best suited to AIL or junior level rugby anyway.
the irony being that ad-hominen and appeal to majority are the most often used defences of the apologist.
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Re: Age Grade Interpros

Postby ormond lad » August 3rd, 2016, 5:38 pm

Oldschoolsocks wrote:
El Diablo wrote:
goreyguy wrote:A lot of players pulled out of summer training with Leinster 20's.
Heard it's mostly down to players feeling that it's too much of a time commitment for no financial reward. Many choosing to work for the summer instead.
5 days a week for no financial reward is asking a lot.
Michael Milne(u18), Jack Aungier(u19) & Hugh O'Sullivan(u19) training with the u20's at the moment, I expect a few other lads are too, to make up numbers for those who dropped out.

Many of the u19 & u20s are Leaving Cert year. It is crazy to expect LC students to go from little or no training for a couple of months followed by a couple of weeks of post-exam partying, come back from Shagaluf in early July and expect them to be ready for full on Leinster matches within 3 weeks. That is a recipe for an injury plagued season in my opinion. They would be much better off working on their S&C and do a proper pre-season with a club team.


Without wanting to sound smart:
1: what in all tarnation is an under 20 doing in his leaving certain year?
2: there should be an element of physical activity while studying
C: at less than 20 years old any healthy male should have the requisite recovery levels to be there or thereabouts after three weeks from a cardio vascular POV
IV: if taking this seriously any youngfella would prob hit the gym 3 or 4 times per week even on holidays, so they should be meaty enough after Shagaluf. If they don't then they're prob not really that interested anyway and prob best suited to AIL or junior level rugby anyway.
Many guys playing 20s will have just done their leaving cert. They will have be u20s for next season and been u19s which is underage for schools cup while in6th year...
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Re: Age Grade Interpros

Postby cormac » August 4th, 2016, 12:41 pm

Oldschoolsocks wrote:
Without wanting to sound smart:
1: what in all tarnation is an under 20 doing in his leaving certain year?
2: there should be an element of physical activity while studying
C: at less than 20 years old any healthy male should have the requisite recovery levels to be there or thereabouts after three weeks from a cardio vascular POV
IV: if taking this seriously any youngfella would prob hit the gym 3 or 4 times per week even on holidays, so they should be meaty enough after Shagaluf. If they don't then they're prob not really that interested anyway and prob best suited to AIL or junior level rugby anyway.


For the 2016/17 season, to be eligible to play U-20 rugby you need to be born on or after 1 January 1997. Therefore I'd wager that the majority of those eligible for U-20 in the coming season have just finished their leaving cert.
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Re: Age Grade Interpros

Postby Oldschoolsocks » August 4th, 2016, 1:56 pm

Fair enough, still in think they should be in relatively good shape after 2 weeks of debauchery
the irony being that ad-hominen and appeal to majority are the most often used defences of the apologist.
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Re: Age Grade Interpros

Postby ormond lad » August 5th, 2016, 12:53 pm

Oldschoolsocks wrote:Fair enough, still in think they should be in relatively good shape after 2 weeks of debauchery
It isn't just "2 weeks of debauchery"

Both 18s sides will play Northampton in next few weeks. Any other warm ups scheduled/known of?
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Re: Age Grade Interpros

Postby Oldschoolsocks » August 5th, 2016, 10:33 pm

ormond lad wrote:
Oldschoolsocks wrote:Fair enough, still in think they should be in relatively good shape after 2 weeks of debauchery
It isn't just "2 weeks of debauchery"

Both 18s sides will play Northampton in next few weeks. Any other warm ups scheduled/known of?


Meh
the irony being that ad-hominen and appeal to majority are the most often used defences of the apologist.
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Re: Age Grade Interpros

Postby goreyguy » August 9th, 2016, 12:45 pm

Leinster U19's, sponsored by Bank of Ireland

Friendlies
17th August (Wednesday): Leinster U19 v Worcester, Donnybrook Stadium, Time 15.00
23rd August (Tuesday): Worcester v Leinster U19, Malvern College, Time TBC
26th August (Friday): Gloucester v Leinster U19, Malvern College, Time TBC

Interprovincial Series
3rd September (Saturday): Ulster v Leinster U19 (Round 1), Kingspan Stadium, Time 15.00
10th September (Saturday): Connacht v Leinster U19 (Round 2), Galwegians RFC, Time 15.00
17th September (Saturday): Leinster U19 v Munster (Round 3), Donnybrook Stadium, Time 15.00

Leinster U18 Schools, sponsored by Bank of Ireland

Friendlies
10th August (Wednesday): Leinster U18 Club v Leinster U18 Schools, Donnybrook Stadium, Time TBC
15th August (Monday): Leinster U18 Schools v Northampton Saints U18, Donnybrook Stadium, Time 15.00
24th August (Wednesday): Leinster U18 Schools v Italy U18, Donnybrook Stadium, Time 15.00
30th August (Tuesday): Munster v Leinster U18 Schools, Away Venue TBC, Time TBC

Interprovincial Series
3rd September (Saturday): Leinster U18 Schools v Ulster (Round 1), Donnybrook Stadium Time 15.00
17th September (Saturday): Ulster v Leinster U18 Schools (Round 2), Methodist College Belfast, Time 13.00
24th September (Saturday): Leinster U18 Schools v Munster (Round 3), Donnybrook Stadium, Time 15.00

Leinster U18 Clubs, sponsored by Bank of Ireland
Friendlies
10th August (Wednesday): Leinster U18 Club v Leinster U18 Schools, Donnybrook Stadium, Time 15.00
18th August (Thursday): Leinster U18 Clubs v Northampton Saints U18, Donnybrook Stadium, Time 15.00
25th August (Thursday): Leinster U18 Clubs v Exiles U18, Donnybrook Stadium, Time 11.30

Interprovincial Series
3rd September (Saturday): Leinster U18 Clubs v Connacht (Round 1), Donnybrook Stadium, Time 13.00
10th September (Saturday): Munster v Leinster U18 Clubs (Round 2), Thomond Park, Time 14.30
17th September (Saturday): Leinster U18 Clubs v Ulster (Round 3), Donnybrook Stadium, Time 13.00
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Re: Age Grade Interpros

Postby goreyguy » August 11th, 2016, 6:23 am

Schools defeated Club side.
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Re: Age Grade Interpros

Postby Hesso » August 14th, 2016, 4:33 pm

Any idea what the the teams where for the schools vs clubs match?
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Re: Age Grade Interpros

Postby Hesso » August 15th, 2016, 9:39 pm

Any idea on the u18s/19s squads?
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Re: Age Grade Interpros

Postby wwed » August 16th, 2016, 12:06 pm

Any reports on U18 schools v Saints yesterday?
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Re: Age Grade Interpros

Postby goreyguy » August 16th, 2016, 1:05 pm

Hesso wrote:Any idea what the the teams where for the schools vs clubs match?


nope.
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