Munster Schools Cup

[JoseFantastique]

Looking to a good one, can the Cork schools' reassert their traditional dominance? Can Munchin's survive without Cronin and Earls? Can Cresent catch up with Munchins? Can Castletroy become an instant force in the Senior Cup? Will a 3rd Cork team ever challenge for the title? Can anyone challenge Ardscoil for the title of best school in Ireland?

[General Collins]

Looking to a good one, can the Cork schools' reassert their traditional dominance? Apart from Munchins, no one else is doing anything to upset this balance. Since 1991 the Cup has only left Cork 5 times.

Can Munchin's survive without Cronin and Earls? I seriously doubt it

Can Cresent catch up with Munchins? Again unlikely, since the 'Chins went to Six years, the girls from the Comp have struggled

Can Castletroy become an instant force in the Senior Cup? Who?????

Will a 3rd Cork team ever challenge for the title? Absolutely not

Can anyone challenge Ardscoil for the title of best school in Ireland? Ha ha ha ha, oh my side is sore from laughing. My cousin would love you, he went to the High School Rice as well. Class of '94

[Uncle Mort]

Looking to a good one, can the Cork schools' reassert their traditional dominance? Can Munchin's survive without Cronin and Earls? Can Cresent catch up with Munchins? Can Castletroy become an instant force in the Senior Cup? Will a 3rd Cork team ever challenge for the title? Can anyone challenge Ardscoil for the title of best school in Ireland?

Going to be a good one alright. Not too sure about Cork shcools myself, but I would have thought Munchin's will survive without Cronin but Earls that's a different matter. Wouldn't have thought Crecent will get much joy myself and as for Castletroy becoming an instant force that's a tall order in anyone's book. It will be difficult for any third school in Cork but as for Ardscoil being the best school in Ireland or even the title of the best school in Ireland

[JoseFantastique]

Nice try Collins, but Cork's days as a school rugby stronghold are over.

Mort, you'd be surprised by how fast Castletroy will catch up, they're only a new school (4 or 5 years old) but they've a huge catchment area.

[Uncle Mort]

Nice try Collins, but Cork's days as a school rugby stronghold are over.

Mort, you'd be surprised by how fast Castletroy will catch up, they're only a new school (4 or 5 years old) but they've a huge catchment area.

but will a huge catchment area overtake tradition? When put in the corner the others will come out fighting (not literally of course), they have to. Tradition can be a big hurdle to overcome.

[Flash Gordon]

Looking to a good one, can the Cork schools' reassert their traditional dominance? Can Munchin's survive without Cronin and Earls? Can Cresent catch up with Munchins? Can Castletroy become an instant force in the Senior Cup? Will a 3rd Cork team ever challenge for the title? Can anyone challenge Ardscoil for the title of best school in Ireland?

Going to be a good one alright. Not too sure about Cork shcools myself, but I would have thought Munchin's will survive without Cronin but Earls that's a different matter. Wouldn't have thought Crecent will get much joy myself and as for Castletroy becoming an instant force that's a tall order in anyone's book. It will be difficult for any third school in Cork but as for Ardscoil being the best school in Ireland or even the title of the best school in Ireland

Who has taken over the mind of Uncle Mort????

[General Collins]

Nice try Collins, but Cork's days as a school rugby stronghold are over.

What exactly are you basing this upon? Pres have reached the last five finals in-a-row, but only managing to win one. They've been the form team in the competition (along with Munchin's) over the last five years. So how exactly are Cork's days numbered or are you just basing your comments on your general dislike for the county?

Mort, you'd be surprised by how fast Castletroy will catch up, they're only a new school (4 or 5 years old) but they've a huge catchment area.

What exactly has a huge catchment area got to do with anything? The school can only hold so many, or will Castletroy suddenly become an open club where by anybody can line out for them?????

[JoseFantastique]

I see I've hit a nerve, the reason I think the balance has shifted is due to Limerick schools stepping up in terms of coaching etc. Pres lost this years final becuase they lacked any on field invention, they played an incredibly limited game, evidenced by 10 minutes of pick and drive on the Munchins line without Munchins ever getting phased. Not once did they even feint to pass the ball wide, let alone actually pass it wide. Afaik, this has been a recurrent trait in Pres teams over the last few years.

On Castletroy, it's a rugby stronghold waiting to be born, loads of players in the area, especially considering how close it is to Boh's.

[General Collins]

I see I've hit a nerve, the reason I think the balance has shifted is due to Limerick schools stepping up in terms of coaching etc. Pres lost this years final becuase they lacked any on field invention, they played an incredibly limited game, evidenced by 10 minutes of pick and drive on the Munchins line without Munchins ever getting phased. Not once did they even feint to pass the ball wide, let alone actually pass it wide. Afaik, this has been a recurrent trait in Pres teams over the last few years.

On Castletroy, it's a rugby stronghold waiting to be born, loads of players in the area, especially considering how close it is to Boh's.

You're spot on in this regard. For the last two years Pres have failed to introduce any form of expansive back play. They've been completely forward dominated. This i think is more down to the coaching than any apparent lack of skills among the young lads. We commented on it after Pres beat CBC last year, against Munchins this year the situation seem to worsen.

[Uncle Mort]

I see I've hit a nerve, the reason I think the balance has shifted is due to Limerick schools stepping up in terms of coaching etc. Pres lost this years final becuase they lacked any on field invention, they played an incredibly limited game, evidenced by 10 minutes of pick and drive on the Munchins line without Munchins ever getting phased. Not once did they even feint to pass the ball wide, let alone actually pass it wide. Afaik, this has been a recurrent trait in Pres teams over the last few years.

On Castletroy, it's a rugby stronghold waiting to be born, loads of players in the area, especially considering how close it is to Boh's.

You're spot on in this regard. For the last two years Pres have failed to introduce any form of expansive back play. They've been completely forward dominated. This i think is more down to the coaching than any apparent lack of skills among the young lads. We commented on it after Pres beat CBC last year, against Munchins this year the situation seem to worsen.

Seems they start them young in Munster for the Munster way.

[General Collins]

I knew as i was writting that, some smart ar*e would come in with a Munster jibe.
Yes Uncle, rolling mauls are introduced to training for most clubs at the U-8 level as is the pick and drive, 12 man line-out and many more.....

As a winger/full-back i didn't touch the ball in general play until i was 21. At that stage i was so confused i just set up another maul...

[Uncle Mort]

I knew as i was writting that, some smart ar*e would come in with a Munster jibe.
Yes Uncle, rolling mauls are introduced to training for most clubs at the U-8 level as is the pick and drive, 12 man line-out and many more.....

As a winger/full-back i didn't touch the ball in general play until i was 21. At that stage i was so confused i just set up another maul...

What is this ball thing you speak of?

[General Collins]

It's what the forwards use to keep themselves warm by shoving up their jumpers

[JoseFantastique]

I see I've hit a nerve, the reason I think the balance has shifted is due to Limerick schools stepping up in terms of coaching etc. Pres lost this years final becuase they lacked any on field invention, they played an incredibly limited game, evidenced by 10 minutes of pick and drive on the Munchins line without Munchins ever getting phased. Not once did they even feint to pass the ball wide, let alone actually pass it wide. Afaik, this has been a recurrent trait in Pres teams over the last few years.

On Castletroy, it's a rugby stronghold waiting to be born, loads of players in the area, especially considering how close it is to Boh's.

You're spot on in this regard. For the last two years Pres have failed to introduce any form of expansive back play. They've been completely forward dominated. This i think is more down to the coaching than any apparent lack of skills among the young lads. We commented on it after Pres beat CBC last year, against Munchins this year the situation seem to worsen.

Hence my comment on Limerick schools having seemingly better coaching. Pres had the winning of this years final, I'm sure they the players to do it, but not the coaches. It's funny that Cork teams have invested heavily in the forward game, when Cork was traditionally the backs factory of the Munster team.

Munchins showed huge composure in withstanding pres, and Munchins defending was the most professional I've seen in schools. They'll be very hard to beat, though the guys who know all about Limerick schools are predicting a Cresent win, not sure on what grounds.

[General Collins]

I see I've hit a nerve, the reason I think the balance has shifted is due to Limerick schools stepping up in terms of coaching etc. Pres lost this years final becuase they lacked any on field invention, they played an incredibly limited game, evidenced by 10 minutes of pick and drive on the Munchins line without Munchins ever getting phased. Not once did they even feint to pass the ball wide, let alone actually pass it wide. Afaik, this has been a recurrent trait in Pres teams over the last few years.

On Castletroy, it's a rugby stronghold waiting to be born, loads of players in the area, especially considering how close it is to Boh's.

You're spot on in this regard. For the last two years Pres have failed to introduce any form of expansive back play. They've been completely forward dominated. This i think is more down to the coaching than any apparent lack of skills among the young lads. We commented on it after Pres beat CBC last year, against Munchins this year the situation seem to worsen.

Hence my comment on Limerick schools having seemingly better coaching. Pres had the winning of this years final, I'm sure they the players to do it, but not the coaches. It's funny that Cork teams have invested heavily in the forward game, when Cork was traditionally the backs factory of the Munster team.

Munchins showed huge composure in withstanding pres, and Munchins defending was the most professional I've seen in schools. They'll be very hard to beat, though the guys who know all about Limerick schools are predicting a Cresent win, not sure on what grounds.

They're the same every year. Those girls are always banging on about what a great squad they have. Soon as the cup rolls around Munchins usually dump them out on their ear.

[JoseFantastique]

I doubt it, the guys I heard it off were raving about Munchins this time last year.

[Malahide Mullet]

It's all so black and white

[General Collins]

Ah Mullet, i see you're predicting a PBC Cork victory as well.
Good man

[Cossax]

Can anyone challenge Ardscoil for the title of best school in Ireland?

No.

We'll give it a good bash at in the Junior Cup but we've been poor at Senior Cup level since Cronin, Doyle and a few others who were in my year left.

[Oscar]

It's funny that Cork teams have invested heavily in the forward game, when Cork was traditionally the backs factory of the Munster team.

Backs "factory"? The home of Stringer and O'Gara?

Ye'd want to get yourselves a new factory, I think...