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Schools Cups 2017

Postby ormond lad » December 12th, 2016, 11:06 pm

Senior Schools Cup first round draw:
St Marys v Newbridge
Kings Hospital v Blackrock College
Cistercian College Roscrea v Vinnie Murray Qualifier
Clongowes Wood v St Fintans Sutton
St Andrews v Belvedere College
Gonzaga v Castleknock
St Michaels v St Gerards
Vinnie Murray Qualifier v Terenure

Vinnie Murray Cup first round draw:
Ardee Community School v Wilson’s Hospital School
Skerries Community College v Good Counsel College
St Conleth’s College v Catholic University College
The High School v Wesley College
De la Salle College Churchtown v Gormanstown College
Presentation College Bray v CBC Monkstown

Junior Schools Cup first round draw:
St Gerard’s School v Gonzaga College
CBC Monkstown v Kilkenny College
Blackrock College v Terenure College
Cistercian College Roscrea v Clongowes Wood
Belvedere College v Fr Godrey Cup qualifier 2
Fr Godrey Cup qualifier 1 v St Andrew’s College
St Michae’s College v Castleknock College
Newbridge College v St Mary’s College

Fr Godrey Cup first round draw:
Newpark Comprehensive v Templeogue College
Ashbourne Community School v Wesley College
Catholic University School v St Patrick’s Classical School
Wilson’s Hospital v The High School
Tullow Community School v Scoil Chonglais
Good Counsel College v Temple Carrig School
The King’s Hospital School v St Mary’s Diocesan School
Presentation College Bray v Mount Temple Comprehensive
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Re: Schools Cups 2017

Postby goreyguy » January 30th, 2017, 9:08 am

So Belvedere defeated Andrews 48-7.

Rock KH today, won't be close.
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Re: Schools Cups 2017

Postby Flash Gordon » January 30th, 2017, 11:02 am

goreyguy wrote:So Belvedere defeated Andrews 48-7.

Rock KH today, won't be close.


Was at the game - Andrew's were a bit of a mess to be honest, got hammered physically, their scrum was very poor, their defensive systems a bit disasterous and with the exception of Sullivan And Henry didn't really break the line. To their credit they didn't stop playing and were right back in it just after half time. Belvo looked good but rusty. They kept it quite tight around the set piece and rucks when they probably would have benefited from a bit more width and pace. A good team but not quite up to last year's on this performance.
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Re: Schools Cups 2017

Postby goreyguy » January 30th, 2017, 12:01 pm

Flash Gordon wrote:
goreyguy wrote:So Belvedere defeated Andrews 48-7.

Rock KH today, won't be close.


Was at the game - Andrew's were a bit of a mess to be honest, got hammered physically, their scrum was very poor, their defensive systems a bit disasterous and with the exception of Sullivan And Henry didn't really break the line. To their credit they didn't stop playing and were right back in it just after half time. Belvo looked good but rusty. They kept it quite tight around the set piece and rucks when they probably would have benefited from a bit more width and pace. A good team but not quite up to last year's on this performance.


yeah they aren't as good as last year.
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Re: Schools Cups 2017

Postby goreyguy » January 30th, 2017, 6:52 pm

41-3 to Blackrock.
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Re: Schools Cups 2017

Postby Flash Gordon » January 30th, 2017, 7:00 pm

goreyguy wrote:41-3 to Blackrock.


Season over for a the rugby squads at Andrew's and Kings Hos in January. Doesn't feel like this is a good way to run the schools game to be honest. Both teams were hammered too......
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Re: Schools Cups 2017

Postby goreyguy » January 30th, 2017, 7:03 pm

Flash Gordon wrote:
goreyguy wrote:41-3 to Blackrock.


Season over for a the rugby squads at Andrew's and Kings Hos in January. Doesn't feel like this is a good way to run the schools game to be honest. Both teams were hammered too......


Most people know this isn't the best way to do it but I can't see it changing anytime soon.
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Re: Schools Cups 2017

Postby ormond lad » January 30th, 2017, 8:52 pm

Flash Gordon wrote:
goreyguy wrote:41-3 to Blackrock.


Season over for a the rugby squads at Andrew's and Kings Hos in January. Doesn't feel like this is a good way to run the schools game to be honest. Both teams were hammered too......
There is plate competitions but who pays any attention to them
It isnt a good way for most but what chances are there that things will change any time soon?
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Re: Schools Cups 2017

Postby El Diablo » January 31st, 2017, 9:29 am

ormond lad wrote:
Flash Gordon wrote:
goreyguy wrote:41-3 to Blackrock.


Season over for a the rugby squads at Andrew's and Kings Hos in January. Doesn't feel like this is a good way to run the schools game to be honest. Both teams were hammered too......
There is plate competitions but who pays any attention to them
It isnt a good way for most but what chances are there that things will change any time soon?

I disagree. The league that the 2nd tier schools play in is highly valued and extremely competitive. I have seen what it means to schools like Gerards to play competitive league matches throughout November/December while the 1st tier schools are playing warm up games. The Rocks/Belvos players never know their 1st choice team until the last week in January. In many ways the KH's, Andrews, Gerards etc have a much better season. It is not all about the SC for the 2nd tier schools.
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Re: Schools Cups 2017

Postby the spoofer » January 31st, 2017, 11:14 am

ormond lad wrote:
Flash Gordon wrote:
goreyguy wrote:41-3 to Blackrock.


Season over for a the rugby squads at Andrew's and Kings Hos in January. Doesn't feel like this is a good way to run the schools game to be honest. Both teams were hammered too......
There is plate competitions but who pays any attention to them
It isnt a good way for most but what chances are there that things will change any time soon?


At least they can get some work done for the leaving.
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Re: Schools Cups 2017

Postby ormond lad » January 31st, 2017, 1:08 pm

the spoofer wrote:At least they can get some work done for the leaving.
Its the end of january several weeks away from mocks for a lot of schools. Many other sports can continue right until the exams begin. So work for leaving isnt an excuse to stop changing the format.
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Re: Schools Cups 2017

Postby ormond lad » January 31st, 2017, 1:11 pm

El Diablo wrote:
ormond lad wrote:
Flash Gordon wrote:Season over for a the rugby squads at Andrew's and Kings Hos in January. Doesn't feel like this is a good way to run the schools game to be honest. Both teams were hammered too......
There is plate competitions but who pays any attention to them
It isnt a good way for most but what chances are there that things will change any time soon?

I disagree. The league that the 2nd tier schools play in is highly valued and extremely competitive. I have seen what it means to schools like Gerards to play competitive league matches throughout November/December while the 1st tier schools are playing warm up games. The Rocks/Belvos players never know their 1st choice team until the last week in January. In many ways the KH's, Andrews, Gerards etc have a much better season. It is not all about the SC for the 2nd tier schools.
League is valued but still all focus will be on qualifying and preparing for the cup.
The Cups should be expanded and developed more.
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Re: Schools Cups 2017

Postby cormac » January 31st, 2017, 5:13 pm

Cracking game between Fintan's and Clongowes. 24-22 to Clongowes with less than 15 mins to go

edit: and as soon as I type that, Fintan's retake the lead with a try under the posts
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Re: Schools Cups 2017

Postby Grumpy Old Man » January 31st, 2017, 5:26 pm

cormac wrote:Cracking game between Fintan's and Clongowes. 24-22 to Clongowes with less than 15 mins to go

edit: and as soon as I type that, Fintan's retake the lead with a try under the posts


any update?
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Re: Schools Cups 2017

Postby cormac » January 31st, 2017, 5:29 pm

Grumpy Old Man wrote:
cormac wrote:Cracking game between Fintan's and Clongowes. 24-22 to Clongowes with less than 15 mins to go

edit: and as soon as I type that, Fintan's retake the lead with a try under the posts


any update?


Clongowes pressure pays off, camped on the line for a few minutes, Fintan's player yellow carded. Try under the posts.

31-29 3-4 mins left
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Re: Schools Cups 2017

Postby Grumpy Old Man » January 31st, 2017, 5:33 pm

cormac wrote:
Grumpy Old Man wrote:
cormac wrote:Cracking game between Fintan's and Clongowes. 24-22 to Clongowes with less than 15 mins to go

edit: and as soon as I type that, Fintan's retake the lead with a try under the posts


any update?


Clongowes pressure pays off, camped on the line for a few minutes, Fintan's player yellow carded. Try under the posts.

31-29 3-4 mins left


Bugger! Thanks Cormac
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Re: Schools Cups 2017

Postby cormac » January 31st, 2017, 5:33 pm

Fintan's penalty. Out wide on right outside the 22, last kick of the game. missed, game over.

Clongowes win 31-29
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Re: Schools Cups 2017

Postby goreyguy » January 31st, 2017, 5:41 pm

Jack Aungier was immense at TH, one to watch out for. Would possibly be Ireland u20 prop right now if he was out of school.
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Re: Schools Cups 2017

Postby El Diablo » January 31st, 2017, 11:45 pm

goreyguy wrote:Jack Aungier was immense at TH, one to watch out for. Would possibly be Ireland u20 prop right now if he was out of school.

http://www.the42.ie/st-fintans-new-leinster-schools-senior-cup-3209051-Jan2017/
Fair play to St Fintans. They gave it some go. I didnt see it but apparently is was a really tough kick at the death. I think they were a man down so they probably felt they had no choice but to go for it.
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Re: Schools Cups 2017

Postby Armchair » February 1st, 2017, 12:49 pm

El Diablo wrote:
goreyguy wrote:Jack Aungier was immense at TH, one to watch out for. Would possibly be Ireland u20 prop right now if he was out of school.

http://www.the42.ie/st-fintans-new-leinster-schools-senior-cup-3209051-Jan2017/
Fair play to St Fintans. They gave it some go. I didnt see it but apparently is was a really tough kick at the death. I think they were a man down so they probably felt they had no choice but to go for it.


Cracking game, it was last play of the game so they had no choice really, looked over all the way but just dropped short. Lot of players from Suttonians youths and a few from Clontarf. Some good players from St. Fintans very impressed with them
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