clongowes v terenure

true blue 06 · Post by **true blue 06** » March 4th, 2007, 11:54 am

todays leinster schools cup semi final has been postponed. it will be played tomorrow in donnybrook.

T.C.B. · Post by **T.C.B.** » March 4th, 2007, 5:56 pm

Leinster Schools semis are postponed

04/03/2007
The Leinster Schools Senior Challenge Cup semi-final scheduled for Sunday between Clongowes Wood College SJ v Terenure College has been postponed until Monday due to a waterlogged pitch.

The two semi-finals will take place this Monday and Tuesday in Donnybrook.

Monday, March 5:
Clongowes Wood College SJ v Terenure College (Donnybrook, KO: 3pm)

Tuesday, March 6:
St Michael's College v Kilkenny College (Donnybrook, KO: 3pm)

Slipper1 · Post by **Slipper1** » March 4th, 2007, 7:00 pm

While I am a firm believer in using DB for schools matches - this decision is idiotic - a pitch like DB that was waterlogged today and that has had so much rain on it over the last 24 hours will not survive 2 SCT S/F games. Regardless of the preparation that they will do i=on the pitch it will turn into sh!t.

Belvo, St Marys & the gick all satisfy conditions to hold school games, such as barriers, parking and access where a charging structure can be implemented.

While there will obviously be another inspection in the morning, the branch should move these games to another venue.

Leinster Zulu · Post by **Leinster Zulu** » March 4th, 2007, 9:48 pm

I think it's a farce that the games are to be played at Donnybrook!

The pitch is in an awful state as it is, and Leinster need this pitch for the home games against Connacht and the Border Reivers, and we need 5 pointers from both!

And as seen against Edinburgh last month, with a cr@p pitch, Leinster aren't gonna get 4 try's by just using there forwards, we need a running game which, quite frankly, is impossible if the pitch is any worse than it is at the moment!

future international · March 4th, 2007, 11:01 pm

every other yr these games wud hav been played in landsdowne during the 6 nations was never complaints

they attract to many to be played in a smaller venue

the final is all ticket this yr shows the demand

Slipper1 · Post by **Slipper1** » March 5th, 2007, 8:44 am

future international wrote:every other year these games would have been played in landsdowne during the 6 nations was never complaints

they attract to many to be played in a smaller venue

the final is all ticket this year shows the demand

It has absolutely got nothing to do with that - LR is not played upon up to three times a week during the "rainy season" so your argument holds no water (unlike Donnybrook, which unfortunately holds too much of it.). LR is also not available, so the branch have to accept reduced capacity whatever - Templelville Rd is well capable of holding acceptable numbers on a ticket only basis. the branch have has to bite the bullet this year and accept less revenue from the games, this would just be part of the lost revenue.

That the final is all ticket does not show the demand

The final is all ticket because the ground where it is being played holds less than a third that traditionally attends this game.

Anyway when Kilkenny win tomorrow it will be like Perpingnon playing a final in LR - plenty of capacity then.

Darce · Post by **Darce** » March 5th, 2007, 11:00 am

Slipper1 wrote:
future international wrote:every other year these games would have been played in landsdowne during the 6 nations was never complaints

they attract to many to be played in a smaller venue

the final is all ticket this year shows the demand
It has absolutely got nothing to do with that - LR is not played upon up to three times a week during the "rainy season" so your argument holds no water (unlike Donnybrook, which unfortunately holds too much of it.). LR is also not available, so the branch have to accept reduced capacity whatever - Templelville Rd is well capable of holding acceptable numbers on a ticket only basis. the branch have has to bite the bullet this year and accept less revenue from the games, this would just be part of the lost revenue.

That the final is all ticket does not show the demand The final is all ticket because the ground where it is being played holds less than a third that traditionally attends this game.

Anyway when Kilkenny win tomorrow it will be like Perpingnon playing a final in LR - plenty of capacity then.

That doesn't make any sense! Of course the fact that the final is an all ticket affair shows the demand

How else does one gauge demand? Yeah, granted supply is down, but point still stands that demand is high in the present climate

Slipper1 · Post by **Slipper1** » March 5th, 2007, 11:13 am

OK, lets play the final in my back garden, there is room for 5 spectators so lets make it all ticket. - if there were 6 people wanting to attend but only 5 get in, does that indicate a great demand to attend?

My point may have been badly written or misinterpreted

Future international pointed out that the reason for the "all ticket" affair is because of demand, which is untrue; the reason for the all ticket game is because the venue is smaller than previous outings.

Uncle Mort · Post by **Uncle Mort** » March 5th, 2007, 11:29 am

Slipper, one of the things we have to accept that Schools Rugby, is and will forever be more popular than the Magners League. Professional Rugby, played by world stars is not where it's at. It took me a long time to realise this and it caused me great upset during what I now refer to my dark and unenlightened times. I think that the matches should be played at DB, when and only when it's safe for the young fellas to run around.

Flash Gordon · Post by **Flash Gordon** » March 5th, 2007, 11:35 am

Uncle Mort wrote:Slipper, one of the things we have to accept that Schools Rugby, is and will forever be more popular than the Magners League. Professional Rugby, played by world stars is not where it's at. It took me a long time to realise this and it caused me great upset during what I now refer to my dark and unenlightened times. I think that the matches should be played at DB, when and only when it's safe for the young fellas to run around.

Well in fairness, rather than dismissing it we could look at it and try to learn. I played schools rugby and never really understood why people came out to watch kids playing, but they do and they do in numbers.

There are 1000's of kids (and parents) out there who show up year after year, who grew up on rugby. These guys should be a fertile audience for Leinster's marketing efforts because they are far easier to convert than people who are currently GAA or soccer fans (for example).

Slipper1 · Post by **Slipper1** » March 5th, 2007, 11:38 am

No, I want them in my back garden.

sarah_lennon · Post by **sarah_lennon** » March 5th, 2007, 11:42 am

Slipper1 wrote:No, I want them in my back garden.

I'll take 5 tickets

Slipper1 · Post by **Slipper1** » March 5th, 2007, 11:51 am

sarah_lennon wrote:
Slipper1 wrote:No, I want them in my back garden.
I'll take 5 tickets

What a success - Sold Out already!

Post by **limecat** » March 5th, 2007, 11:51 am

Slipper1 wrote:
sarah_lennon wrote:
Slipper1 wrote:No, I want them in my back garden.
I'll take 5 tickets
What a success - Sold Out already!

If you see them on sale on eBay, you know who to blame

Darce · Post by **Darce** » March 5th, 2007, 1:08 pm

Slipper1 wrote:OK, lets play the final in my back garden, there is room for 5 spectators so lets make it all ticket. - if there were 6 people wanting to attend but only 5 get in, does that indicate a great demand to attend?

My point may have been badly written or misinterpreted Future international pointed out that the reason for the "all ticket" affair is because of demand, which is untrue; the reason for the all ticket game is because the venue is smaller than previous outings.

Demand is higher than supply, thus the event has a high demand.

Slipper1 · Post by **Slipper1** » March 5th, 2007, 1:13 pm

Darce wrote:
Slipper1 wrote:OK, lets play the final in my back garden, there is room for 5 spectators so lets make it all ticket. - if there were 6 people wanting to attend but only 5 get in, does that indicate a great demand to attend?

My point may have been badly written or misinterpreted Future international pointed out that the reason for the "all ticket" affair is because of demand, which is untrue; the reason for the all ticket game is because the venue is smaller than previous outings.
Demand is higher than supply, thus the event has a high demand.

Supply is lower than demand, therefore the event has a low supply.

Flash Gordon · Post by **Flash Gordon** » March 5th, 2007, 1:14 pm

Five pounds for an argument anybody?

Slipper1 · Post by **Slipper1** » March 5th, 2007, 1:17 pm

Flash Gordon wrote:Five pounds for an argument anybody?

Cant be worth any more than 3 quid

Flash Gordon · Post by **Flash Gordon** » March 5th, 2007, 1:18 pm

Slipper1 wrote:
Flash Gordon wrote:Five pounds for an argument anybody?
Cant be worth any more than 3 quid

yes it can.

Darce · Post by **Darce** » March 5th, 2007, 1:18 pm

Uncle Mort wrote:Slipper, one of the things we have to accept that Schools Rugby, is and will forever be more popular than the Magners League. Professional Rugby, played by world stars is not where it's at. It took me a long time to realise this and it caused me great upset during what I now refer to my dark and unenlightened times. I think that the matches should be played at DB, when and only when it's safe for the young fellas to run around.

Thanks for that mort. Invaluable stuff again. You might not like Schools Rugby playing on Leinsters Pitch, but the fact of the matter is Schools teams have been as big a draw as the Leinster team and in cases of later stages of the competition, a bigger draw than Leinster. This is a money spinner for the branch. Always has, always will. So its time to get over yourself tbh. The branch have made strides to take games off the DB surface and are continuing to do so. But there are simply some games which require the capacity of DB. Thats a fact of life