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Mackman15 wrote:Some Chancer.............

Ireland eyes international rescue
Aston Villa midfielder Stephen Ireland may be on the verge of ending his self-imposed international exile, according to a report today.

Ireland, who moved to Villa from Manchester City as part of the deal that took James Milner the other way, has found himself frozen out at Villa Park and is now believed to be surplus to requirements there.

The midfielder believes that a return to action with the Republic of Ireland could help him secure a move away from Villa
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'I am seriously thinking of calling Trap in the next few weeks and hopefully can work my way back into his plans,' the Daily Mirror quoted him as saying.


'If I can't get a move in January then I need to look at the summer and playing for Ireland will at least put me in the shop window.'


Ireland has not played for his country since announcing his international retirement in 2007 in the wake of the infamous 'Grannygate' farce.


The midfielder has insisted on several occasions that he would not make himself available for selection by the Republic but after being frozen out at Villa, may have changed his mind.

Aston Villa were unable to comment on Ireland's quotes.

http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2010/1215/irelands.html
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Peg Leg wrote:Is club football not meant to be the shop window for International managers?
Its been the other way around for a long time now. International games are there to get you a good transfer or a bigger contract. Look at the attention Arshavin and Forlan got from playing in the Euros/World Cup.
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I only saw the MOTD highlights but did anyone see how Clark got on at left back for Villa yesterday? I like the idea that he could be left back for Ireland with Coleman on the right and maybe move O'Shea to midfield...not that Trap would ever go for such a flamboyant selection!
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I would love to have O'Shea in midfield for Ireland.
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This deadline day is madness!
Serves no teams best interests... except perhaps Sky.
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Avenger wrote:This deadline day is madness!
Serves no teams best interests... except perhaps Sky.
They've had all month to deal with it. Why wait until the last minute.
Get in the f%~king bag.
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Ahh its always been like this.

An excuse to make sh!t up and get as many website hits as you can generate in 10 hours.

Torres leaves training ground. Torres leaves training ground in helichopper. Torres hasnt left training ground at all. Torres in speedboat on Thames. Torres leaves training ground in Car etc. All within 30 minutes.

I usually ignore it and read about it in 15 minutes the next day.
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Logorrhea wrote:Ahh its always been like this.

An excuse to make sh!t up and get as many website hits as you can generate in 10 hours.

Torres leaves training ground. Torres leaves training ground in helichopper. Torres hasnt left training ground at all. Torres in speedboat on Thames. Torres leaves training ground in Car etc. All within 30 minutes.

I usually ignore it and read about it in 15 minutes the next day.
He will be a rent boy in a few hours.
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Irish captain Robbie Keane wrote:If I didn't play for Ireland and someone else came in ... I would walk away.
What a guy. That's the sort of knuckle down and fight for your place attitude that has led to him bouncing from club to club through his career. Someone for us all to admire.
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Holy random post batman.

Someone else came in where? Walk away from where?

I dont doubt he said it, I just havent a clue what he was talking about. linky pleasey?
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Random post? Well it is the random soccer thread....

It's on the back page of the Metro today. He's responding to a question about Trap saying he has to be playing regularly to feature in Trap's plans.
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Gary Neville Retires

A nation weeps!
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Donny B. wrote:Gary Neville Retires

A nation weeps!
I'm a United fan and I'm delighted he's retired!
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LeRouxIsPHat wrote:
Donny B. wrote:Gary Neville Retires

A nation weeps!
I'm a United fan and I'm delighted he's retired!
ment to be getting the job at sky isn't he? heard it on the radio thought they were messing but.....
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Donny B. wrote:Gary Neville Retires

A nation weeps!
Gary Neville is a manc, is a manc, is a manc.... he hates mirrors!
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nopeare wrote:
LeRouxIsPHat wrote:
Donny B. wrote:Gary Neville Retires

A nation weeps!
I'm a United fan and I'm delighted he's retired!
ment to be getting the job at sky isn't he? heard it on the radio thought they were messing but.....
Wouldn't be suprised with sky, trading one tosser for another one
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Very interesting story in the Guardian about TV Rights


Some call her a consumer champion; others say she has opened a Pandora's box that could ruin the economic model that has made Premier League clubs among the richest in world football.

The Premier League tried to prevent Karen Murphy showing illegal foreign feeds of matches in her Portsmouth pub. She took her case to the highest court in Europe and today a European Commission advocate general threatened to undermine the League's forthcoming multibillion-pound television rights auction. In the latest twist to a long-running legal saga, Juliane Kokott – one of eight EC advocate generals – advised the European court of justice to find in Murphy's favour in a judgment that was headed with the words "territorial exclusivity agreements relating to the transmission of football matches are contrary to European Union law".

At the Premier League's Gloucester Place headquarters, where every move is calibrated to oil the wheels of the most successfully marketed league in the world, they are not used to surprises. But the small core of executives, lawyers and advisers who have masterminded English football's boom in TV revenue were shocked by the strength of Kokott's language. What particularly disturbed them was her view that the Premier League's existing territory-by-territory rights model – which, the UK deal included, yielded £3.5bn for member clubs under the current three-year deal – was "tantamount to profiting from the elimination of the internal market".

Kokott's advice is not binding but lawyers said today that the opinion of the advocate general was followed in around 70% of cases. She argued that separating the European market on a country by country basis and selling the rights exclusively to a single operator was "something which constitutes serious a impairment to the freedom to provide services".

In plain English, that means that the regulars at the Red, White and Blue who today raised a glass to their plucky landlady will be able to continue watching Premier League matches on Saturday afternoons, through a Greek broadcaster. And if the opinion of Kokott is carried by the ECJ, it will mean that consumers will be able to follow their lead and watch more live football for less (380 matches are broadcast in Europe, compared to 138 in the UK). It remains to be seen how many will vault through the practical hoops required to do so – purchasing a new decoder, subscribing to a European provider and pointing a satellite dish in the right direction.

"If followed by the full court, this opinion has serious implications for the Premier League and Sky," said Becket McGrath, a partner in EU and competition law at Edwards Angell Palmer & Dodge. "In the short term, Sky will face more defections from subscribers to foreign sources of Premier League football. In the longer term, the Premier League is likely to receive less money when it next auctions off its TV rights, as no bidder will be prepared to offer as much for UK rights. It may ultimately be forced to abandon territorial licensing all together."

That course of action is seen as the most likely by rights experts, if the opinion of Kokott is adopted by the ECJ and survives the appeals process. If the Premier League was forced to sell its rights on a pan-European basis, to avoid a doomsday scenario in which consumers scoured Europe for the cheapest deals, it could still hurt its bottom line, as it would be less able to extract maximum value out of each market. Such a scenario would also force the Premier League to decide whether to turn its back on the 3pm-5pm blackout agreement and sell all 380 live matches on a pan-European basis.

The battle between the media giants who could compete in such a scenario – perhaps News Corporation, MediaSet, Canal Plus and Disney, which owns ESPN – would still drive substantial value. Also, the major growth markets are Asia and the US. Paradoxically, though, such an arrangement might result in concerns over competition at European Union level. If the Premier League was ultimately forced to abandon pan-European deals but also agree that each national broadcaster could sell its rights across the continent, that really would spell trouble.

Premier League lawyers will fight the judgment. But lawyers today warned that they were in uncharted territory. Alex Haffner, a senior associate and EC competition law expert at SNR Denton, said: "It's a clash between commercial justifications and the law. It's one of those things that has challenged the whole principle of how rights are sold."

The Premier League will be fighting on a number of fronts in the coming months and years to protect the model that has served it so well for 20 years. The ever-worsening problem of online piracy and the possibility that regulators will once again open up the question of the way it sells its rights will remain live threats and figure prominently in the in-tray of the incoming general secretary, Nic Coward.

In the meantime, Murphy's law will continue to breed unease and uncertainty at a time when the Premier League is gearing up for its next lucrative rights auction.

Could 3pm Saturday games be shown live?
Since the first live matches were shown on British television, long before they became the driver of a pay TV industry that would pay £1.7bn for domestic rights alone, there was collective agreement that a "blackout" from 3-5pm on Saturdays was desirable to protect lower-league attendances and participation.

But today's intervention by the EC's Juliane Kokott in the case brought against Karen Murphy will revive the debate about whether it has become an anachronism that does more harm than good. Kokott suggests it "cannot be ruled out" that the agreement is based on maintaining rights value rather than protecting small clubs.

She said: "It is, in fact, doubtful whether closed periods are capable of encouraging attendance at matches and participation in matches. Both activities have a completely different quality to the following of a live transmission on television". It has not been adequately shown to the court that the closed periods actually encourage attendance at and participation in matches."

The voluntary agreement – backed by the English football authorities, the government and Uefa – has held. But as the number of live matches has mushroomed so has the number of fixtures rescheduled as a result, in many cases angering fans.

If the Premier League was forced to start selling on a pan-European basis, it might have to take the decision to scrap the blackout to make the same number of games available across Europe. That could open up for the first time the possibility of selling club-by-club "season tickets" to watch every match on television or online – which might even increase revenue for clubs at all levels.
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Sky buy Europe-wide premiership rates. Consumers foot the bill. Order is restored
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In fairness, even as a Liverpool fan you just have to applaud the strike........................genius, no other word for it.

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