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Re: Barca!

Postby Avenger » April 28th, 2011, 3:45 pm

jezzer wrote:Pepe's studs-up "tackle" was potentially dangeous, but not actually dangerous as he didn't touch Pedro, who dived AGAIN to the deck. A yellow at worst.


Tackles like that have been outlawed because they are potential leg breakers. He is high over the ball with studs up. The red card was the correct decision regardless of whether everyone was diving or not. It was pure luck that he didn't break Pedro's ankle with that challenge. There was no need to make that tackle either as Pedro was going nowhere and he clearly went in with the intention of "doing" him.
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Re: Barca!

Postby sarah_lennon » April 28th, 2011, 4:08 pm

Didn't see the match

Cannot believe that Alves was stretchered off...

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Re: Barca!

Postby Broken Wing » April 28th, 2011, 4:12 pm

Am I misinformed or is there not some rule about getting attention and having to leave the field of play. Does the stretcher come into this?

The diving and face holding was dreadful but Real weren't exactly fighting to stay on their feet either (the odd time they got possession).
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Re: Barca!

Postby ronk » April 28th, 2011, 5:06 pm

Avenger wrote:
jezzer wrote:Pepe's studs-up "tackle" was potentially dangeous, but not actually dangerous as he didn't touch Pedro, who dived AGAIN to the deck. A yellow at worst.


Tackles like that have been outlawed because they are potential leg breakers. He is high over the ball with studs up. The red card was the correct decision regardless of whether everyone was diving or not. It was pure luck that he didn't break Pedro's ankle with that challenge. There was no need to make that tackle either as Pedro was going nowhere and he clearly went in with the intention of "doing" him.


He won the ball and was past Alves. If he'd pulled out Alves wouldn't have been shy about following through with his studs up Pedro's thigh. I wouldn't have classed that as intent.
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Re: Barca!

Postby Avenger » April 28th, 2011, 5:28 pm

ronk wrote:He won the ball and was past Alves. If he'd pulled out Alves wouldn't have been shy about following through with his studs up Pedro's thigh. I wouldn't have classed that as intent.


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Doesn't look like he's past him here? His foot is high. Studs are up. Red card. Simples.
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Re: Barca!

Postby LeRouxIsPHat » April 28th, 2011, 6:08 pm

I wouldn't usually be quick to say a tackle like that was bad enough to warrant a red card given that he did get the ball but I'd say Alves would have been in big trouble if he hadn't pulled his leg away at the last minute so I think it did deserve a red.
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Re: Barca!

Postby fourthirtythree » April 28th, 2011, 7:16 pm

LeRouxIsPHat wrote:I wouldn't usually be quick to say a tackle like that was bad enough to warrant a red card given that he did get the ball but I'd say Alves would have been in big trouble if he hadn't pulled his leg away at the last minute so I think it did deserve a red.


It was not an unreasonable red card and he has nothing to complain about. I do think however that Barca were very, very, well treated by the ref. I despise both Real Madrid and what they stand for and Mourinho but I was not happy last night with how Barcelona's cheating tactics were pandered to.

They really did their best to make us not want them to get through with their simulation which really does get on most people's nerves. That said, Mourinho has nothing to complain about either. Karma baby. Remember how his Porto team kicked lumps out of Deportivo on the way to the CL? And any time they got tackled they rolled around like death was immanent? His behaviour was, as always, disgraceful before and during this match. I like to think that by sending Madrid out to play like Wimbledon he earned the contempt of the RM fans and will be on his way. A failure.

By the by the wonderful and illuminating Lionel Messi should have been sent off for two yellow cards. A needless clatter in the air with no attempt to reach the ball and then a scoop of the ball on the ground at the edge of the penalty box. Glad he wasn't, but the bad grace the match was played in seemed to infect him. Which is a real shame because he makes football worth watching again.
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Re: Barca!

Postby BlueArmyOriginal » April 28th, 2011, 9:58 pm

Avenger wrote:
ronk wrote:He won the ball and was past Alves. If he'd pulled out Alves wouldn't have been shy about following through with his studs up Pedro's thigh. I wouldn't have classed that as intent.


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Doesn't look like he's past him here? His foot is high. Studs are up. Red card. Simples.

Agreed. Pepe'd no intentions of getting the ball there, he wasn't even looking at the ball!!! And they should've been down to 9 men after Adebayor's body charge about 2mins later.

I think Jose has taken it too far with the Mourinho show this time and it could be the end of him. His only hope for another job now is Ferguson retiring and him getting the Man U job, lot of if's there!

PS: Off the Ball just saying Real have now lodged a complaint with UEFA about Barca. This is gonna run and run!!!
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Re: Barca!

Postby Donny B. » April 29th, 2011, 9:28 am

Read a headline from the Mirror's Oliver Holt after the Man U match about how Wayne Rooney was clearly a better player than Messi.

Oliver Dolt more like!! :lol:
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Re: Barca!

Postby sarah_lennon » April 29th, 2011, 10:12 am

Donny B. wrote:Read a headline from the Mirror's Oliver Holt after the Man U match about how Wayne Rooney was clearly a better player than Messi.

Oliver Dolt more like!! :lol:


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Re: Barca!

Postby Logorrhea » April 29th, 2011, 10:14 am

jezzer wrote: Barca's successes are definitely tainted by cheating, diving and more than a hint of bias towards them by refs.

Always favoured Barca over Madrid from back when Lineker played for them but not any more. The diving you always expect, but the diving added to the unprecedented pressure being put on the ref (time after time after time) was pretty sickening. At one stage there was six or seven of them, including the goalkeeper (wtf), waving imaginary cards in the referees face.

As for Pepes sending off. t was a tough call for the referee but he got it wrong.

On a side point, UEFA have been happy to turn football into a non-contact, wendyball game for cheats. Betcha they wont do anything.
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